Dexter (Final) Season 8

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So far this season seems like more of the same from the last couple of years - not good. I had hoped they would rise to the occasion for the farewell season, but I betcha that instead they will rely on cheap thrills (like the deaths of major characters) to heighten the excitement. I see that as a crutch for uninspired writing.
 

Soundmanred

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Haha, thats how I feel. If I see a ton of people saying that hate a movie or show, I know ill like it. And vice versa.

I don't see many people here hating on it, just hoping it's a good sendoff for the series.
I'm enjoying it so far, and I have faith they'll do it justice in the final season.
 

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Having seen the second episode now, I think it's even more pertinent to ask why Debra shot laguerta. Why was it a choice between Shooting dexter and Shooting laguerta, instead of (a) not confronting them since she clearly wasn't prepared to stop it, or (b) just put the gun away and gone home even after confronting them and realizing she couldn't stop him.

Can anyone justify her actions in the finale of the last season? Since they're driving the story now, it's irritating that to me it doesn't make any sense. What am i missing?

And Dexter blames himself too, instead of turning to her and saying, "listen you daft cow, nobody told you to shoot her in the first place."
 
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Having seen the second episode now, I think it's even more pertinent to ask why Debra shot laguerta. Why was it a choice between Shooting dexter and Shooting laguerta, instead of (a) not confronting them since she clearly wasn't prepared to stop it, or (b) just put the gun away and gone home even after confronting them and realizing she couldn't stop him.

Can anyone justify her actions in the finale of the last season? Since they're driving the story now, it's irritating that to me it doesn't make any sense. What am i missing?

And Dexter blames himself too, instead of turning to her and saying, "listen you daft cow, nobody told you to shoot her in the first place."

I have always considered Deb crazy and dumb...and what she did was crazy and dumb, so it follows the logic.
 

Soundmanred

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I have always considered Deb crazy and dumb...and what she did was crazy and dumb, so it follows the logic.

She loves the D, she's even "in love" with the D, and she knows that the D would go down hard if she allowed her to live, and she may have been implicated as knowing of his activities eventually as well.
She made the right choice. :)
 

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She loves the D, she's even "in love" with the D, and she knows that the D would go down hard if she allowed her to live, and she may have been implicated as knowing of his activities eventually as well.
She made the right choice. :)

Not just knowing. Aiding and abetting. Laguerta showed her cam footage of Deb filling up a gas can at the nearest gas station to the church just minutes before it went up in flames. So to some extent, self-preservation should be part of the equation.

But they haven't really touched on that at all this season.
 

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And it will be at the hands of his creepy sister, so the whole bro/sis love story can start all over again.
 

justoh

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Debra is the most unbelievable character evah! What the hell is going on in this season? So awful. By now it's clear the writers think mainstream america couldn't handle dexter and debra living happily ever after, or at least reasonably content.

After she viewed the video of her father saying, "i don't think i can live with this," she said "and fucking i'm supposed to?" or something, and i thought, hey, that's pretty funny - best thing debra's ever said. I thought this statement/question was meant to be rhetorical, but then 10 minutes later she's forcing her brother's car off the road into the river. And then after executing her plan perfectly, she saves him?

Then again, she never should have shot laguerta. She could have just lowered the gun and gone home. Dexter would have taken care of laguerta, obviously. She's ridiculous. This false dichotomy between choosing dexter over laguerta has been central to the storyline. Bogus!

And how about the bs therapist. Dexter calls her out on her stupid mirror metaphor and quite eloquently justifies his belief that his emotions for debra are genuine. Who the hell is she to say otherwise. Dexter seems a lot more wise than his therapist, another strange writing direction. Or maybe they're intentionally mocking the social sciences, which would be fantastic.

Oh yeah, spoiler alert.
 
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Dari

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Debra is the most unbelievable character evah! What the hell is going on in this season? So awful. By now it's clear the writers think mainstream america couldn't handle dexter and debra living happily ever after, or at least reasonably content.

After she viewed the video of her father saying, "i don't think i can live with this," she said "and fucking i'm supposed to?" or something, and i thought, hey, that's pretty funny - best thing debra's ever said. I thought this statement/question was meant to be rhetorical, but then 10 minutes later she's forcing her brother's car off the road into the river. And then after executing her plan perfectly, she saves him?

Then again, she never should have shot laguerta. She could have just lowered the gun and gone home. Dexter would have taken care of laguerta, obviously. She's ridiculous. This false dichotomy between choosing dexter over laguerta has been central to the storyline. Bogus!

And how about the bs therapist. Dexter calls her out on her stupid mirror metaphor and quite eloquently justifies his belief that his emotions for debra are genuine. Who the hell is she to say otherwise. Dexter seems a lot more wise than his therapist, another strange writing direction. Or maybe they're intentionally mocking the social sciences, which would be fantastic.

Oh yeah, spoiler alert.

They have to be. Look at how far all her patients have come. Still abducting, killing and (sometimes) eating their victims. What a successful psychiatrist:rolleyes:. Fact is, these people are incurable and she's only benefitted from the misery of others.
 

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Debra is the most unbelievable character evah! What the hell is going on in this season? So awful. By now it's clear the writers think mainstream america couldn't handle dexter and debra living happily ever after, or at least reasonably content.

After she viewed the video of her father saying, "i don't think i can live with this," she said "and fucking i'm supposed to?" or something, and i thought, hey, that's pretty funny - best thing debra's ever said. I thought this statement/question was meant to be rhetorical, but then 10 minutes later she's forcing her brother's car off the road into the river. And then after executing her plan perfectly, she saves him?

Then again, she never should have shot laguerta. She could have just lowered the gun and gone home. Dexter would have taken care of laguerta, obviously. She's ridiculous. This false dichotomy between choosing dexter over laguerta has been central to the storyline. Bogus!

And how about the bs therapist. Dexter calls her out on her stupid mirror metaphor and quite eloquently justifies his belief that his emotions for debra are genuine. Who the hell is she to say otherwise. Dexter seems a lot more wise than his therapist, another strange writing direction. Or maybe they're intentionally mocking the social sciences, which would be fantastic.

Oh yeah, spoiler alert.

I watched this last night and all I could think of was how bad and lazy the writing has gotten on this show. It used to be interesting and awesome but as time goes by its slowly becoming a echo of what it once was. I think this show really started losing itself years ago when they took a sociopath and forced him to have feelings. If they left him as he was in the first season I think it would still be an awesome show. Now we're at the point where all those bad decisions are compounding as they attempt to close it all up. I also think the show suffers from a surplus of characters which is why we're treated to stupid storylines like masuka having a kid. I don't care much about masuka, nor Quinn's which woman should I be with soap opera crap.
 

justoh

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I watched this last night and all I could think of was how bad and lazy the writing has gotten on this show. It used to be interesting and awesome but as time goes by its slowly becoming a echo of what it once was. I think this show really started losing itself years ago when they took a sociopath and forced him to have feelings. If they left him as he was in the first season I think it would still be an awesome show. Now we're at the point where all those bad decisions are compounding as they attempt to close it all up. I also think the show suffers from a surplus of characters which is why we're treated to stupid storylines like masuka having a kid. I don't care much about masuka, nor Quinn's which woman should I be with soap opera crap.

Eh i don't mind the masuka stuff or the lisp dude etc. It's all quite acceptable. I even thought some of this last episode was very good. The taking your father off the respirator diversion was quite clever. And Dexter really did seem impressively insightful and articulate about his feelings. But overall none of it makes much sense. They seem to be struggling with how to end this show in a dignified manner. Obviously I guess things can't turn out well for dexter, or sadly even plausible, which is the worst part, as they have to throw out their integrity in order to avoid criticism for not bringing "justice" to dexter and debra.
 

pyonir

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Debra is the most unbelievable character evah! What the hell is going on in this season? So awful. By now it's clear the writers think mainstream america couldn't handle dexter and debra living happily ever after, or at least reasonably content.

After she viewed the video of her father saying, "i don't think i can live with this," she said "and fucking i'm supposed to?" or something, and i thought, hey, that's pretty funny - best thing debra's ever said. I thought this statement/question was meant to be rhetorical, but then 10 minutes later she's forcing her brother's car off the road into the river. And then after executing her plan perfectly, she saves him?

Deb is impulsive. Always has been since Season 1. So her forcing the car off the road, was that impulsiveness. She intended to kill them both. Once she realized she survived, she reacted to saving Dexter, which goes back to the point the therapist was making that she'll always try to save Dex.

Then again, she never should have shot laguerta. She could have just lowered the gun and gone home. Dexter would have taken care of laguerta, obviously. She's ridiculous. This false dichotomy between choosing dexter over laguerta has been central to the storyline. Bogus!
This was another thing the therapist explained, that she couldn't leave him there, or shoot him, that she saved him, and always will. Deb claimed she saw herself shooting Dexter, which makes sense because when she did shoot Maria, in the last Season Finale, she realized what she did and rushed to her crying. She thought she'd shot Dexter. Her mind...breaking.

And how about the bs therapist. Dexter calls her out on her stupid mirror metaphor and quite eloquently justifies his belief that his emotions for debra are genuine. Who the hell is she to say otherwise. Dexter seems a lot more wise than his therapist, another strange writing direction. Or maybe they're intentionally mocking the social sciences, which would be fantastic.

Oh yeah, spoiler alert.
It's my feeling that the therapist is not trying to actually help Dexter, but to try and manipulate him (like she has with others in the past, which they alluded to numerous times). The therapist seems, to me, to be a psychopath as well, that enjoys manipulating others to kill.