Deus EX: Mankind Dividied system specs revealed

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ShintaiDK

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Remember if you buy this. DLCs and microtransactions are locked to the same game. So start a new game=buy DLC and microtransactions again.
 
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Remember if you buy this. DLCs and microtransactions are locked to the same game. So start a new game=buy DLC and microtransactions again.

Are you serious? That's awful!

I was a huge fan of Deus EX (the original). Never got around to playing Human Revolution (though I bought it). I guess I will wait until this title is in the bargain bin before touching it, no way I'm forking over full price for this game. Runs like crap on high end gear and now this?

At $5 it might be a good deal.
 

Carfax83

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Been messing around in Prague a bit, and this is the first place you encounter that gives you a real feel for the technical capabilities and performance of the engine. So far I've been holding 60 FPS fairly easily with some very minor dips every now and then, at 1440p everything maxed out except MSAA and CHS which are turned off, and triple buffering enabled. Game seems to use the CPU decently, but the scaling isn't as good as what I thought it would be. My CPU was still down clocking during gameplay with the Windows performance profile on balanced, which was causing some hitching and stuttering. Setting it to performance fixed that for me. So yeah, DX12 with it's much better parallel rendering would be a big plus for this game for certain. VRAM usage is exceptionally high (above 7GB), and so is RAM usage (over 9GB). But of course most of the VRAM usage is from caching textures so that's fine I think.

Things I really like about the graphics are the screen space reflections which are detailed and have high resolution, and they also have a contact hardening effect applied as well. Also, the cloth physics setting is definitely noticeable. You can see the more realistic cloth movement, even on NPCs. The temporal AA is also very good, and gets rid of the vast majority of aliasing and shimmering. MSAA definitely isn't being missed at all here..

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Carfax83

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First patch is out!

We have just released the first PC patch for Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, v1.0 build 524.7. This patch focusses on critical issues users ran into immediately following release.

This patch will be applied by Steam automatically when you next start the game. If your game does not update, please restart the Steam client or manually look for updates in the Windows Store.

The following fixes are in this patch:
• Fixed crashes caused by third-party programs interfering with the game.
• Fixed crash that occurred after viewing the intro videos.
• Fixed issue that could cause a crash at the end of the Prague intro scene.
• Fixed mouse invert setting not being displayed correctly in the options menu.
 

Face2Face

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Judging by the screenshots above, I don't think the game looks that great considering it's system requirements. Maybe the tessellation on the cobblestone road and the lighting, but that's about it...
 

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Steam forums for example.

I'm not seeing anything about DLC.

As far as micro transactions, as long as it doesn't change the natural progression of the game, in a way that encourages them, who gives a shit? That doesn't appear to be the case either, the micro transactions seem to be just payed cheats to fast track progress.
 

Thinker_145

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RX480 also beats its direct GTX1060 competitor by 24%.
Wow so you not only compared an AIB 480 with an FE 1060 but also used the highest number you could find among all the different settings used and just throw out a blanket statement like that?

24% difference in ultra settings drops down to 15% in very high where the game actually seems more playable so why is ultra number more important?

Then how about we compare AIB cards like how it should be?

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Deus-.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirectX-12-1204575/

8% faster at 1080p and 9% faster at 1440p. Max OC vs max OC I believe both would be equal. So no as it turns out there is no difference between the 2 cards at settings people would actually play the game at. Stop spreading grossly exaggerated conclusions.
 

AtenRa

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Wow so you not only compared an AIB 480 with an FE 1060 but also used the highest number you could find among all the different settings used and just throw out a blanket statement like that?

24% difference in ultra settings drops down to 15% in very high where the game actually seems more playable so why is ultra number more important?

Then how about we compare AIB cards like how it should be?

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Deus-.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirectX-12-1204575/

8% faster at 1080p and 9% faster at 1440p. Max OC vs max OC I believe both would be equal. So no as it turns out there is no difference between the 2 cards at settings people would actually play the game at. Stop spreading grossly exaggerated conclusions.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/3

34fps minimum and 46fps average for Ultra settings its more than fine to play the game, and it really shows that the RX 480 is faster at Higher Image Quality than GTX 1060.
 

Erenhardt

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Nvidia cards are being slaughtered. It's already bloodbath and we are yet to have DX12 boost for AMD.
Scary times for investors.

Also, important fact. PClamb is not covering this game, just like they skipped Doom Vulkan patch, and other amd favoring games. For obvious reasons. :D
Usually they cover games day before release or amd optimized drivers, whichever comes first :p
 

AtenRa

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Also, important fact. PClamb is not covering this game, just like they skipped Doom Vulkan patch, and other amd favoring games. For obvious reasons. :D
Usually they cover games day before release or amd optimized drivers, whichever comes first :p

They wait for the DX-12 patch :p
 

Thinker_145

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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/3

34fps minimum and 46fps average for Ultra settings its more than fine to play the game, and it really shows that the RX 480 is faster at Higher Image Quality than GTX 1060.
Not with an FPS game sorry. I would never play an FPS game at ultra settings if I am not getting 60FPS.

It does not mean anything all it means is that some particular settings are playing better with AMD cards(hairworks anyone?). The performance difference between the 2 cards remains flat on all resolutions including 4K which wouldn't be the case if what you are saying is correct.
 

Thinker_145

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The link I provided has the following settings which allows both 480 and 1060 to hit 60FPS at 1080p.

Ultra preset except CHS (disabled) and AO (temporal component disabled) + 16: 1 AF

At these settings the performance is better for both cards than at only high settings in the bit-tech review. It's obvious some settings are murdering performance and neither card is good enough for such luxury in this game.
 

AtenRa

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Not with an FPS game sorry. I would never play an FPS game at ultra settings if I am not getting 60FPS.

There are already people in this very thread that play the game at 38fps average, RX 480 at 46fps should be even better. This is not an Online Multiplayer game that needs 60fps or more, you can play at 40fps.
 
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Not with an FPS game sorry. I would never play an FPS game at ultra settings if I am not getting 60FPS.

It does not mean anything all it means is that some particular settings are playing better with AMD cards(hairworks anyone?). The performance difference between the 2 cards remains flat on all resolutions including 4K which wouldn't be the case if what you are saying is correct.

This isn't a pure FPS game like COD or Battlefield. high 30-40 fps is more then enough for Deus Ex.
 
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Judging by the screenshots above, I don't think the game looks that great considering it's system requirements. Maybe the tessellation on the cobblestone road and the lighting, but that's about it...

I was thinking the same thing... It doesn't really look good and it doesn't really run well considering.
 

AtenRa

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The link I provided has the following settings which allows both 480 and 1060 to hit 60FPS at 1080p.

Ultra preset except CHS (disabled) and AO (temporal component disabled) + 16: 1 AF

At these settings the performance is better for both cards than at only high settings in the bit-tech review. It's obvious some settings are murdering performance and neither card is good enough for such luxury in this game.

Ok, if those settings doesnt increase Image Quality a lot (I dont currently have the game so i cant say first hand), then i will agree that disabling them will increase performance without sacrificing Image Quality that much. But again it seems that RX 480 is still faster (granted not more than 10%) and that is not even DX-12 .
 

Thinker_145

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It is faster no doubt but not exactly the sort of picture that was being presented here. If I want to play at 40fps with 30 minimums I would try to have 2xMSAA instead of these extreme settings.

Maybe it's just me but I know if I play this game with either card I would be getting similar performance as I gladly dump "extreme" settings for 50-60fps instead of 30-40fps regardless of the pace of the game.

Sent from my HTC One M9
 

Carfax83

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Ok, if those settings doesnt increase Image Quality a lot (I dont currently have the game so i cant say first hand), then i will agree that disabling them will increase performance without sacrificing Image Quality that much. But again it seems that RX 480 is still faster (granted not more than 10%) and that is not even DX-12 .

As many have stated, using the scripted benchmark to determine performance is highly misleading. Bit-tech and several other websites have used the scripted benchmark, which is much heavier on the GPU than the actual game itself. In the main game, NVidia has the edge due to their more efficient DX11 driver. You see this particularly in the hub area in Prague, which is exactly what PCGH.de tested..

DX12 might change this later though. From my experience, the game has some issues with CPU usage, as my CPU was downclocking in the hub area due to too much idling. Setting Windows to performance mode fixed that problem however.

Can't wait to test this game out in DX12! Should perform much better, and not just on AMD hardware.
 

Carfax83

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Judging by the screenshots above, I don't think the game looks that great considering it's system requirements. Maybe the tessellation on the cobblestone road and the lighting, but that's about it...

Game looks a lot better when you're actually playing it though, as most games do. From a technical perspective, the game does employ a large list of features; including global illumination, volumetric lighting and some really good screen space reflections just to name a few....
 

swilli89

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Been messing around in Prague a bit, and this is the first place you encounter that gives you a real feel for the technical capabilities and performance of the engine. So far I've been holding 60 FPS fairly easily with some very minor dips every now and then, at 1440p everything maxed out except MSAA and CHS which are turned off, and triple buffering enabled. Game seems to use the CPU decently, but the scaling isn't as good as what I thought it would be. My CPU was still down clocking during gameplay with the Windows performance profile on balanced, which was causing some hitching and stuttering. Setting it to performance fixed that for me. So yeah, DX12 with it's much better parallel rendering would be a big plus for this game for certain. VRAM usage is exceptionally high (above 7GB), and so is RAM usage (over 9GB). But of course most of the VRAM usage is from caching textures so that's fine I think.

Things I really like about the graphics are the screen space reflections which are detailed and have high resolution, and they also have a contact hardening effect applied as well. Also, the cloth physics setting is definitely noticeable. You can see the more realistic cloth movement, even on NPCs. The temporal AA is also very good, and gets rid of the vast majority of aliasing and shimmering. MSAA definitely isn't being missed at all here..

PbRdKq.png

XbsXcG.png

FB9a5G.png

Asb96Z.png

8DUR6U.png

Game definitely looks amazing, from my experience definitely one of those that actual gameplay looks even better than screenshots.
 

Carfax83

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Game definitely looks amazing, from my experience definitely one of those that actual gameplay looks even better than screenshots.

Yup! :cool:

BTW, anyone experiencing microstutter in Prague, try turning off exclusive fullscreen mode. That seems to fix it.
 

Grooveriding

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Game definitely looks amazing, from my experience definitely one of those that actual gameplay looks even better than screenshots.

Yeah the game is incredible. Only a couple other games are at this level of image quality, and I'd say this is the best of the bunch. I'm wondering if DX12 will improve that even further, or just improve performance.