Dems didn't lose white men primarily because of race, but because Dems don't offer them anything

[PlanetJosh]

I guess the name calling is more intense today to make up for toning it down on Christmas Day.

 

[GettyRoad]

White guys today may not be directly blamed for slavery yet they are completely against any methods to mitigate it’s long term effect.

White guys of today are primarily responsible for racism in this country for which they fail to acknowledge. Todays Republicans refuse to break ties with prominent racists/groups.

Nobody, I repeat nobody calls every white man racist.

Colin Kapernick was protesting police abuse aka George Floyd in a silent non violent and even that pissed off white guys. I suspect the mail reason for their ire was Trump told them to be pissed off. There same white guys say nothing about Trump denigrating a POW, gold star families yet they rather bitch about Kapernick. What means do black people have to protest that is approved by you white people??

As for the sports thing none of them said a word when Tim Tebow was praying on the field. I thought they were just there for the sports??

1. A lot of white guys feel racism towards minorities don't exist anymore or minorities haven't used the legislation from the 60s at their benefit, I know, it's a foolish belief, but that is what a lot of them think
2. Do you want white men to acknowledge and then what?
3. I agree with what Kaepernick said, but he shouldn't have mentioned the US flag in it...for a lot of white men, the US flag is very symbolic of the country and the military---since a lot of slain servicemembers' families get a flag at the burial.

 

[fskimospy]

Dems have alpha males like John Fetterman, etc.
But Fetterman's stroke hampered his political rise...

Dems would do best if they talked to Erik Estrada, he would know how to talk to men, especially Latino men in NY, CA, NV, etc.
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If this is not a joke it is hilarious.

 

[Moonbeam]

1. A lot of white guys feel racism towards minorities don't exist anymore or minorities haven't used the legislation from the 60s at their benefit, I know, it's a foolish belief, but that is what a lot of them think
2. Do you want white men to acknowledge and then what?
3. I agree with what Kaepernick said, but he shouldn't have mentioned the US flag in it...for a lot of white men, the US flag is very symbolic of the country and the military---since a lot of slain servicemembers' families get a flag at the burial.

Bigots are bigots because they were offended and threatened with bigotry in they did not become bigots themselves. But not that they are sick with the disease of bigotry they don't get to get a pass to fall into victim mentality. Poor poor me, everybody hates me because I am a bigot. No gird up your loins and give up on the bigotry. Only other sick people would go after somebody who used to be a bigot and now isn't. Those hanging on to the antiquated past have the responsibility of moving on. They don't get to demand others honor their bigotry.

 

[ivwshane]

Gotta love white people telling black people how to protest and to not inconvenience them.

 

[esquared]

If this is not a joke it is hilarious.

WTF is with this guy and celebrities, or so called celebrities. Eric Estrada? You can't call him a has-been because he is a never was. His best gig ended 40 years ago.

Rob Lowe? A B lister at best.
Verlander and his wife. No one gives a shit what these two think.

I guess our resident peckerwood agrees with laura ingraham when she told LeBron to "shut up and dribble" because he wanted to speak about racism that's entrenched in our society.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm amazed how the culture of grievance runs so strongly in a group that still controls almost everything.

There you go again.
People living month to month DO NOT "control almost everything".
There is an entire demographic you are discounting, and it is the largest one. Missing something that big is going to be a driving force in elections.
If we do not speak to the working class, there is an orange propagandist that will.

Republican grievance is strong. It is entirely based on economics and blaming "others" for their struggle.
That wouldn't work if the struggle did not exist. Something Left leaning policy would aim to achieve, if only we spoke louder for and better acknowledged their struggle.

 

[soulcougher73]

Bullshit, I'm a white male American and Kaepernick didn't anger me.

I think Getty meant to say it upset racists, not white males.

 

[fskimospy]

There you go again.
People living month to month DO NOT "control almost everything".
There is an entire demographic you are discounting, and it is the largest one. Missing something that big is going to be a driving force in elections.
If we do not speak to the working class, there is an orange propagandist that will.

Republican grievance is strong. It is entirely based on economics and blaming "others" for their struggle.
That wouldn't work if the struggle did not exist. Something Left leaning policy would aim to achieve, if only we spoke louder for and better acknowledged their struggle.

It isn’t entirely based on economics at all. It’s a cultural reaction primarily, not an economic one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/12/data-about-capitol-rioters-serves-another-blow-white-working-class-trump-supporter-narrative/

 

[GettyRoad]

Gotta love white people telling black people how to protest and to not inconvenience them.

It's not that, but why do you want whites like Rob Lowe, Kate Upton, etc. to care? Why do white people have to care about what the protests are about? That's the thing. They don't HAVE to care. Cops are heroes, especially after 9/11, why smear every cop?

 

[GettyRoad]

WTF is with this guy and celebrities, or so called celebrities. Eric Estrada? You can't call him a has-been because he is a never was. His best gig ended 40 years ago.

Rob Lowe? A B lister at best.
Verlander and his wife. No one gives a shit what these two think.

I guess our resident peckerwood agrees with laura ingraham when she told LeBron to "shut up and dribble" because he wanted to speak about racism that's entrenched in our society.

Estrada is one of the best actors in the world, he is in telenovelas, etc. He's huge.
Lowe is big too, he is on 911, a cop show, so obviously he's gonna take offense to Kaepernick.
Verlander and Upton are seen as American patriots, they don't want politics in baseball. Just play the game. Baseball is seen as a patriotic, old school sport. The likes of Kaepernick are not welcome there. Verlander made it specifically clear, and his wife, who goes to games as well.

It's not shut up and dribble, but it's more like, what can white fans do about it? Do you notice hockey doesn't have this problem?

 

[fskimospy]

It's not that, but why do you want whites like Rob Lowe, Kate Upton, etc. to care? Why do white people have to care about what the protests are about? That's the thing. They don't HAVE to care. Cops are heroes, especially after 9/11, why smear every cop?

Why does it matter that Rob Lowe is white? Your collections of actors you think people care about is pretty hilarious though. It’s like you woke up from a 15 year coma or something.

This whole thing has always been an exercise in bad faith. The thing conservatives didn’t like was black people protesting. It doesn’t matter when, where, or how they do it. The protesting is the problem.

Again, this was shown by Tomi Lahren on the Daily Show. She was asked a very simple question of ‘how should Kaepernick protest so that you would find it acceptable?’ She had no answer.

 

[fskimospy]

Estrada is one of the best actors in the world, he is in telenovelas, etc. He's huge.
Lowe is big too, he is on 911, a cop show, so obviously he's gonna take offense to Kaepernick.
Verlander and Upton are seen as American patriots, they don't want politics in baseball. Just play the game. Baseball is seen as a patriotic, old school sport. The likes of Kaepernick are not welcome there. Verlander made it specifically clear, and his wife, who goes to games as well.

It's not shut up and dribble, but it's more like, what can white fans do about it? Do you notice hockey doesn't have this problem?

Okay this has to be a parody account. Nobody is this stupid and out of touch with reality.

 

[soundforbjt]

It's not that, but why do you want whites like Rob Lowe, Kate Upton, etc. to care? Why do white people have to care about what the protests are about? That's the thing. They don't HAVE to care. Cops are heroes, especially after 9/11, why smear every cop?

That’s how we know you don’t live in the U.S.. Cops generally are not heroes, there are exceptions as in every profession. Now if Taylor Swift was saying what those has beens are saying you’d be on to something.

 

[fskimospy]

That’s how we know you don’t live in the U.S.. Cops generally are not heroes, there are exceptions as in every profession. Now if Taylor Swift was saying what those has beens are saying you’d be on to something.

It’s also sort of funny that he’s like ‘sports people shouldn’t be political. Also, you should listen to what these washed up actors have to say about politics.’ Lol.

It also shows conservatives never had a problem with ‘cancel culture’ - they just want to be the ones doing the cancelling.

 

[Amol S.]

It’s also sort of funny that he’s like ‘sports people shouldn’t be political. Also, you should listen to what these washed up actors have to say about politics.’ Lol.

It also shows conservatives never had a problem with ‘cancel culture’ - they just want to be the ones doing the cancelling.

Is it just me, or has anyone been noticing the Republicans trying to push actors and sports players into politics. Ronald Reagan, Arnold Swarzzennegger, Karri Lake, Herchell Walker, Markwayne Mullin, Kristi Noem(contestant on Miss America), and Donald Trump(The Apprentice).

 

[fskimospy]

Is it just me, or has anyone been noticing the Republicans trying to push actors and sports players into politics. Ronald Reagan, Arnold Swarzzennegger, Karri Lake, Herchell Walker, Markwayne Mullin, Kristi Noem(contestant on Miss America), and Donald Trump(The Apprentice).

I think it's relatively easy for them to do this because Republicans don't really have any policy goals beyond tax cuts for rich people and so you don't need any policy expertise or history of success.

 

[GettyRoad]

Why does it matter that Rob Lowe is white? Your collections of actors you think people care about is pretty hilarious though. It’s like you woke up from a 15 year coma or something.

This whole thing has always been an exercise in bad faith. The thing conservatives didn’t like was black people protesting. It doesn’t matter when, where, or how they do it. The protesting is the problem.

Again, this was shown by Tomi Lahren on the Daily Show. She was asked a very simple question of ‘how should Kaepernick protest so that you would find it acceptable?’ She had no answer.

Lowe is always relevant, he's always been big.
Yes, because conservatives think blacks should be grateful to be in America because they think Africa is worse.....they always was like that....
When you are protesting on the field, it's a problem because it can be a distraction

 

[GettyRoad]

Is it just me, or has anyone been noticing the Republicans trying to push actors and sports players into politics. Ronald Reagan, Arnold Swarzzennegger, Karri Lake, Herchell Walker, Markwayne Mullin, Kristi Noem(contestant on Miss America), and Donald Trump(The Apprentice).

Dems should do it too because they are the party of celebrity and Hollywood (Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, etc.)

 

[fskimospy]

Lowe is always relevant, he's always been big.
Yes, because conservatives think blacks should be grateful to be in America because they think Africa is worse.....they always was like that....
When you are protesting on the field, it's a problem because it can be a distraction

Lol ok, whatever you want to tell yourself.

Regardless, thank you for agreeing with me that conservative 'outrage' about Kaepernick was in bad faith. That's why it should be ignored because there are no circumstances under which conservatives find it acceptable for black people to protest.

This has always been true, by the way. When MLK was alive conservatives HATED him despite him doing nothing more than urging people to peacefully protest.

 

[Tsinni Dave]

well now

Dems should do it too because they are the party of celebrity and Hollywood (Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, etc.)

Perhaps running candidates with relevant qualifications and experience might be important when making consequential decisions that affect the entire country instead?

 

[soulcougher73]

Lowe is always relevant, he's always been big.
Yes, because conservatives think blacks should be grateful to be in America because they think Africa is worse.....they always was like that....
When you are protesting on the field, it's a problem because it can be a distraction

I think Denmark should enslave white Americans because they think America is worse. They can teach us valuable job skills while we slave away for them.

 

[fskimospy]

well now

Perhaps running candidates with relevant qualifications and experience might be important when making consequential decisions that affect the entire country instead?

Also his list of candidates has a pretty checkered electoral history. Walker lost a VERY winnable race, Lake lost, and Trump's only win was lucking out into a favorable electoral college map once while losing by millions each time and getting blown out in the off year elections he tried to influence.

 

[soulcougher73]

Dems should do it too because they are the party of celebrity and Hollywood (Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, etc.)

Id rather actors stick to what they are good at. Or at least try to be good at depending which actor we are talking about.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think it's relatively easy for them to do this because Republicans don't really have any policy goals beyond tax cuts for rich people and so you don't need any policy expertise or history of success.

Psychologically unsophisticated people, and they are that way not necessarily from personal fault but because of the staggering ignorance that pervades our culture, therefore lacking in any real internal yardstick as to what personal character looks like, vote, not on the basis of a person's moral character and emotional and psychological maturity, but on the basis of name recognition. In this way we get the kinds of politicians that reflect who we are. The evolution of progressive ideals does not happen simultaneously across large geographical areas so we get different levels of backwardness elected to office across the country.

Ignorance is fear and fear is always projected on the unfamiliar and unknown. Name recognition, therefore, substitutes for judgment based on character. It's the same with incumbent advantage.

The greater the ignorance the greater the magnitude of the unknown there is to fear and the more areas onto which we are able to project.

Incidentally, this is why we won't find the answers out there, because the issue is the darkness within.