Democrats really have to comeout and vote.

[hal2kilo]

He is the definition of a swamp creature. You know he has a wonderful job waiting for him when he gets out of office at any of the biggest lobbying firms in DC. He doesn't even have to move off his yacht.

Perfect example...

Who cut checks to Manchin last quarter- POLITICO

 

[iRONic]

Example 45,854 why nothing will ever change in this burgeoning shithole until the cash gets out of politics!

 

[Zorba]

West Virginia is an actual state?

Yes, because they were actually the less Racist post of Virginia.

 

[Zorba]

You think it's all because of student debt relief, and not... you know, everything?

Yeah. All that crazy low unemployment, getting a bipartisan COVID Bill, record infrastructure bill, and gun bill passed. Keeping Ukraine from being over ran, while massively hurting Russia's ability to project power. Uniting NATO.

Fuck that piece of shit Biden.

 

[Zorba]

He either needs to announce he will not be running for president again, or let the primaries take him out!
I've defended him enough here. His response to the Roe vs Wade decision after knowing what it would be for 6 months in indefensible. I'm done.

What exactly should he be doing? Personally assassinating the supremes?

 

[eelw]

What exactly should he be doing? Personally assassinating the supremes?

Yup he invites each justice to a private dinner. Mysterious each conservative justice dies after

 

[Zorba]

And he's at it again.


Trump must have gotten to him.
But whatever, Manchin is an embarrassment to everyone not only democrats and Biden, but to everyone.
He waves his little gun around in campaign ads and calls himself a democrat. He's no democrat. And obviously, he doesn't care what his party thinks of him as like a monkey Manchin flings kaka in the presidents face.
People need to get out and vote if for no other reason to make Manchin and his monkey poop tossing tactics moot.

But let's run Biden out of office and elect AOC, then Manchin will vote for everything!

The real issue is Biden has tried, hard, to pass a progressive agenda and it's gotten blocked but his own party. Then he gets blamed for being weak or some other BS. People need to learn how our government works, then actually fucking vote. But Maine and others decided they didn't want Biden to pass his agenda even though they voted for him.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

But let's run Biden out of office and elect AOC, then Manchin will vote for everything!

The real issue is Biden has tried, hard, to pass a progressive agenda and it's gotten blocked but his own party. Then he gets blamed for being weak or some other BS. People need to learn how our government works, then actually fucking vote. But Maine and others decided they didn't want Biden to pass his agenda even though they voted for him.

Exactly, vote every single time even for local elections.
I will say D Presidents need to get better at calling people out who won’t even attempt to move the ball forward.

 

[Amol S.]

But let's run Biden out of office and elect AOC, then Manchin will vote for everything!

The real issue is Biden has tried, hard, to pass a progressive agenda and it's gotten blocked but his own party. Then he gets blamed for being weak or some other BS. People need to learn how our government works, then actually fucking vote. But Maine and others decided they didn't want Biden to pass his agenda even though they voted for him.

To be honest.... Biden did not try one possible way to get things done... doing things in little steps. For example, instead of the entire for the people act, they could just pass an act that just ends gerrymandering. Then all the other stuff like all split up into their own separate bill.

Interestingly, we only been thru half of the important points about the 2022 elections. Alaska is one state to pay particular attention to when it comes to the primaries. Murkowski needs to win the primary.

AOC would not win, there is just something about her that would stop moderates and even some progressives from voting for her. All the good Democrats (I am referring to the ones even better than the ones in congress and their past professional and not ethical actions) end up getting caught in sex scandals. Other than the 4 scandals Wiener had... his policy for education was actually quite good. Then you have Cuomo, who just like Weiner thru all of his good views into the trash by his uncontrollable hands and lips that liked to kiss someone at a wedding party.

Believe me when I state this.... the best Democrat candidate that has the chance of winning the 2024 presidential election is someone who has the money to burn at the rate Trump did on campaign trail. There is only one Democrat that was or was over the amount of wealth Trump had when he started campaigning for 2016 .... and it's Michael Bloomberg.

The worst thing that can happen if Trump does not run for 2024, is not DeSantis 2024.... but a Elon Musk 2024 as a Republican. Musk already claimed his support for the Republican party. At that point you have someone even more wealthy than Trump to spend on the campaign trail.

Bloomberg really is the Democrats best bet to win.

Anyone other than Bloomberg is going to run into campaign finance problems, which Trump never faced particularly in 2016 because of his personal wealth.
Only a Goliath can face a Goliath.

 

[eelw]

To be honest.... Biden did not try one possible way to get things done... doing things in little steps. For example, instead of the entire for the people act, they could just pass an act that just ends gerrymandering. Then all the other stuff like all split up into their own separate bill.

Exactly. Proposals were just too large. Create 100’s of tiny bills vs the War and Peace version, some republicans would have come on board to get 60 senate votes.

 

[Zorba]

To be honest.... Biden did not try one possible way to get things done... doing things in little steps. For example, instead of the entire for the people act, they could just pass an act that just ends gerrymandering. Then all the other stuff like all split up into their own separate bill.

And you just showed you don't know how the government actually works and blame Biden for it not working the way you think it would.

Republicans wouldn't have voted for any part of the for the people act by itself, much less 10 of them. You are much more likely to get 10 as a huge bill where you give them all something they want.

 

[Amol S.]

And you just showed you don't know how the government actually works and blame Biden for it not working the way you think it would.

Republicans wouldn't have voted for any part of the for the people act by itself, much less 10 of them. You are much more likely to get 10 as a huge bill where you give them all something they want.

But at least 10 would be getting someplace. I do support Democrats, but Biden is eh.

 

[Zorba]

But at least 10 would be getting someplace. I do support Democrats, but Biden is eh.

There is no version of voting rights bill that would get 10 republicans to vote for it. It's not Bidens fault democrats don't want to live in reality.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Yup. Best case scenario Dems retain congress and actually picks up 2 seats to be able to get rid of the filibuster and able to pass abortion and voting rights. Pass BBB, extra Medicare and student loan forgiveness. If all this can be done by summer of 2023, Biden can boldly state how successful his term has been and can officially declare he won’t seek a second term

The most important thing to do would be statehood for DC and Puerto Rico for 4 new senators. The senate is the root cause of everything being fucked up in this country politically. Hell separate DC into two states like the Republicans did Dakota and get 6 new senators.

 

[Amol S.]

The most important thing to do would be statehood for DC and Puerto Rico for 4 new senators. The senate is the root cause of everything being fucked up in this country politically. Hell separate DC into two states like the Republicans did Dakota and get 6 new senators.

A better option than making PR or DC a state would be for Long Island and the 5 NYC Boroughs to become one state seperate from upstate New York..... but that would neve happen as the Gov of NY would fear of getting ousted in an election by upstate Republicans.

 

[Zorba]

I gotta ask, why do the Dems keep letting the inflation caused by Powell's money printing press fall in Biden's lap? That makes no sense. Powell and the Fed created this inflation with their loose monetary policies, not Biden.
Just like Nixon created the stagflation of the 70s when he took the dollar off the gold standard. Carter had nothing to with that and stagflation was already nearly 6 years old by the time he took office, but for some reason the Dems let him take the fall for that too.
Why is this? I must know.

Because Dems fall for the right wing con. Mitch makes sure literally nothing can get done in the Senate and Dems be like "Look how weak Biden is, he can't make people who are dedicated to making him look bad vote for his stuff*" *Nevermind he got an infrastructure bill Trump couldn't get and a gun control bill that no one else has gotten in 30 years.

Then they eat up the Fox news talking points about how he is causing high gas prices, even though there is clearly gouging and one of the biggest oil and gas producers has been completely shut off from the world. And Trump killed our deal with Iran that limits their oil from being sold. But it must all be Bidens fault.

Just look at all the dumb shits in this thread, that have 100% swallowed the Fox News plan and are talking Democrats out of any chance of winning. It's so obvious it's painful, and these are the small sunset of Dems that actually pay attention.

"He should've done something about Roe!" "Like what?" "I don't know, but he should ignore how our government works and just fix everything!"

Thanks dumb fucks, we are going to end up with a Republican dictatorship because you'd rather blame Biden than republicans, even when you can't say a single thing he could actually have done differently. And he's gotten Republicans to give him more victories than even Trump got.

 

[Zorba]

The most important thing to do would be statehood for DC and Puerto Rico for 4 new senators. The senate is the root cause of everything being fucked up in this country politically. Hell separate DC into two states like the Republicans did Dakota and get 6 new senators.

Next would be too massively expand the House, which would make gerrymandering much more difficult and needs to be done regardless.

 

[sportage]

Bernie Sanders was sure fired up on ABC's THIS WEEK news show.

I don't get it. You'd think America would LOVE Bernie and elect him hands down to the presidency. You would think the Americans could realize how right Bernie Sanders is especially when it comes to telling it like it is and getting people to understand why things are sooos soooo bad and will not get any better in the future.
You get what you pay for, and vote for....

 

[ondma]

I'm watching Biden shuffle up to the podium, he appears so frail, has trouble concentrating, trouble speaking. If he runs again in 2024 will the public accept a president using a walker? A cane might be ok, but a walker.
I just don't know. I think it would be best for democrats to start grooming someone else, others, or at least think about it. But I think a lot of his unfavorable ratings are from his age, and Biden doesn't wear his age well. I've seen people in their 90's more alert and energetic then Joe Biden, but they aren't politicians.
I don't know about Biden. He makes me nervous. i'm afraid he's going to fall, or fall asleep. These old politicians simple must go, give up the political ghost. Biden, Pelosi, Grassley, McConnell, none of them should be there. It makes them look bad, makes us look bad and it makes politica look bad. And most of Americas problems is they we have too many old people who have been there for 40-50 years. Enough!

Yea, I agree. Biden did not seem this bad during the 2020 campaign and the debates. It is just painful to watch him (try to) do anything. Even worse, if he doesnt run for 2024, the obvious choice instead will be Kamala, who is even less popular and has done nothing as VP.

 

[Captante]

Yup he invites each justice to a private dinner. Mysterious each conservative justice dies after

From a "stumble" down the back stairs?

 

[Captante]

Yea, I agree. Biden did not seem this bad during the 2020 campaign and the debates. It is just painful to watch him (try to) do anything. Even worse, if he doesnt run for 2024, the obvious choice instead will be Kamala, who is even less popular and has done nothing as VP.

If Kamala Harris were to somehow be the Democratic nominee in 2024 it would result in the biggest GOP blowout in US election history.

Dukakis and Mondale would appear to have been actually-viable candidates in comparison.

Biden himself would have a better chance of getting re-elected.

 

[sportage]

By the way....
Which layout looks better? Layout A or B ?
I mean, if you had one wish and only one wish to wish, then which potential CNN BREAKING NEWS layout looks the better?

 

[Captante]

You could have stopped @ "Trump is dead" .... I'm easy to please!

*(dear FBI guys: I am in no way implying that I plan on killing dear Donnie-boy but I sure won't shed a tear if he dies)

 

[hal2kilo]

Because Dems fall for the right wing con. Mitch makes sure literally nothing can get done in the Senate and Dems be like "Look how weak Biden is, he can't make people who are dedicated to making him look bad vote for his stuff*" *Nevermind he got an infrastructure bill Trump couldn't get and a gun control bill that no one else has gotten in 30 years.

Then they eat up the Fox news talking points about how he is causing high gas prices, even though there is clearly gouging and one of the biggest oil and gas producers has been completely shut off from the world. And Trump killed our deal with Iran that limits their oil from being sold. But it must all be Bidens fault.

Just look at all the dumb shits in this thread, that have 100% swallowed the Fox News plan and are talking Democrats out of any chance of winning. It's so obvious it's painful, and these are the small sunset of Dems that actually pay attention.

"He should've done something about Roe!" "Like what?" "I don't know, but he should ignore how our government works and just fix everything!"

Thanks dumb fucks, we are going to end up with a Republican dictatorship because you'd rather blame Biden than republicans, even when you can't say a single thing he could actually have done differently. And he's gotten Republicans to give him more victories than even Trump got.

Bottom line, he looked and acted like it was a surprise with no political road show or anything in the wings. That's what an active politician does. Maybe it's just smoke and mirrors but at least it looks like he has a pulse!
You don't think BS sells? We had four years of it being lapped up.

 

[Captante]

Bottom line, he looked and acted like it was a surprise with no political road show or anything in the wings. That's what an active politician does. Maybe it's just smoke and mirrors but at least it looks like he has a pulse!
You don't think BS sells? We had four years of it being lapped up.

Ask yourself if the Dumpster were POTUS would he have taken a blow of this magnitude without going all scorched-earth on anyone/anything in reach in retaliation?

At the very least you would have to look at his stupid face blabbing about the "injustice" to "Great Americans" or some such nonsense EVERY SINGLE DAY AND people would be eating it up.

We would have a "packed" supreme court and no more filibuster so fast it would make your dang head spin... but instead we have Biden and the joke "status-quo" Democrats doing next to nothing while America goes straight into the $hitter.