Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

[Indus]

Clinton was clearly hard right economically. Even socially he was pretty right wing too, eg the crime bill and the three strikes law for example.

Times are changing..

The left is going to have to compromise with the right on a few things..

Single payer Healthcare, LGBT rights and abortion rights get to stay but migrants/ asylum and no more DACA are the compromises for that.

No one gets everything they want but it is something the left can honestly live with.

 

[MrSquished]

Democrats, doing real well in the polls. They will always have the 40% of Republicans not liking them, but now a lot of the Dems don't like them, because save for a small minority, they are mostly a bunch of a feckless muppets. In fact they are less popular than ethnic cleansing lol

New Quinnipiac poll\
Congressional Republicans Approve 40% Disapprove 52%
Congressional Democrats Approve 21%Disapprove 68%
Elon Musk Favorable 38%Unfavorable 50%
Donald Trump Approve 45%Disapprove 49%
Trump plan to take Gaza Pro 22% Anti 62%

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Quinnipiac University Poll regularly surveys residents in many states and nationwide about political races, state and national elections, and issues of public concern.

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[SteveGrabowski]

Times are changing..

The left is going to have to compromise with the right on a few things..

Single payer Healthcare, LGBT rights and abortion rights get to stay but migrants/ asylum and no more DACA are the compromises for that.

No one gets everything they want but it is something the left can honestly live with.

There is no compromise with the nazis. As long as they're in power they will not give an inch much less pass any kind of center left policy like Medicare For All.

 

[MrSquished]

Yet another day passes and the Democrats offer no real leadership.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Bit of good news from Michigan.

Matt Miller (@mattmillermlive.bsky.social)

Michigan Supreme Court Chief Justice Elizabeth Clement plans to resign by the end of April. Clement was a Republican nominee who was sometimes defied the wishes of her party. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, will appoint her successor...

bsky.app

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Yet another day passes and the Democrats offer no real leadership.

The Democrats aren't going to save us from this nightmare. Whenever this regime falls hopefully the Democratic party is gone too.

 

[Indus]

Yet another day passes and the Democrats offer no real leadership.

Leadership?

They can't even comprehend what's going on or have an idea of what to do.

MAGA is so outside their realm of reality and is a paradigm shift. They still can't understand people really voted for this!

It's like when the first cannons met the knights in plate and chain armor..



They are shell shocked! A new age has begun and it will require a new type of opposition and a new type of leader!

 

[hal2kilo]

Leadership?

They can't even comprehend what's going on or have an idea of what to do.

MAGA is so outside their realm of reality and is a paradigm shift. They still can't understand people really voted for this!

It's like when the first cannons met the knights in plate and chain armor..

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They are shell shocked! A new age has begun and it will require a new type of opposition and a new type of leader!

Part of the problem is it's hard to realize that half of the country have become traitors. How do you deal with people who's reality has been totally fucked by modern propaganda.

 

[Indus]

Part of the problem is it's hard to realize that half of the country have become traitors. How do you deal with people who's reality has been totally fucked by modern propaganda.

1. You realize you need a national divorce or a civil war.
2. You prepare yourself for doing what needs to be done.
3. You press ahead no matter the cost.

Basically 1776 all over again!

 

[Brainonska511]

1. You realize you need a national divorce or a civil war.
2. You prepare yourself for doing what needs to be done.
3. You press ahead no matter the cost.

Basically 1776 all over again!

How does a national divorce help at all? Plenty of MAGA nuts in the bluest of states and vice versa. And don't say you'll export people, because doing a little forced relocation of people is fucking gross.

Democrats are holding the line on the Budget negotiations, if Susan "I'm concerned" Collins complaint about the negotiations is to be believed.

And on the House side, you only need like 3 Republicans to break ranks, and there are some who are not total cranks who see the looming debt ceiling and budget busting bills Trump wants for the garbage that they are. Just need to keep hammering at their caucus to break them apart. The media and other channels dont carry care much for broadcasting "Democrats are doing/not doing X" because it's all viewed as a partisan thing.

 

[Indus]

How does a national divorce help at all? Plenty of MAGA nuts in the bluest of states and vice versa. And don't say you'll export people, because doing a little forced relocation of people is fucking gross.

Democrats are holding the line on the Budget negotiations, if Susan "I'm concerned" Collins complaint about the negotiations is to be believed.

And on the House side, you only need like 3 Republicans to break ranks, and there are some who are not total cranks who see the looming debt ceiling and budget busting bills Trump wants for the garbage that they are. Just need to keep hammering at their caucus to break them apart. The media and other channels dont carry care much for broadcasting "Democrats are doing/not doing X" because it's all viewed as a partisan thing.

They can fucking move or they will become like ukrainians inside russkieland!

Don't kid yourself.. Democracy under a gun's threat is no democracy.. So you have to be prepared to do what is necessary.

And it will cost us.. in blood. If you're not prepared for that.. just surrender now and star wearing MAGA hats!

Mark my words.. this time Trump will have protestors shot! Maybe that's the tipping point.. who knows!

 

[Brainonska511]

They can fucking move or they will become like ukrainians inside russkieland!

Don't kid yourself.. Democracy under a gun's threat is no democracy.. So you have to be prepared to do what is necessary.

And it will cost us.. in blood. If you're not prepared for that.. just surrender now and star wearing MAGA hats!

When are you going to be picking up your gun? You can't even handle the local shopping cart mafia.

 

[Indus]

When are you going to be picking up your gun? You can't even handle the local shopping cart mafia.

I would have slaughtered them all if I could get a gun legally in NYC but there's more hoops to get a gun legally here than winning the lottery!

Would have been just another mass shooting. No one gives a fuck anyways!

 

[MrSquished]

How does a national divorce help at all? Plenty of MAGA nuts in the bluest of states and vice versa. And don't say you'll export people, because doing a little forced relocation of people is fucking gross.

Democrats are holding the line on the Budget negotiations, if Susan "I'm concerned" Collins complaint about the negotiations is to be believed.

And on the House side, you only need like 3 Republicans to break ranks, and there are some who are not total cranks who see the looming debt ceiling and budget busting bills Trump wants for the garbage that they are. Just need to keep hammering at their caucus to break them apart. The media and other channels dont carry care much for broadcasting "Democrats are doing/not doing X" because it's all viewed as a partisan thing.

Well this is the problem as he pointed out the Democrats like yourself are not living in reality. You're shell shocked and you don't know what's going on.

How would a national divorce help. Well let's see dude, it would protect at least some states from the tyranny of trump and musk. At the very least at this point in time blue governors should be getting together to formulate a plan for when and if this is needed. Which it likely will be.

Second you're still living in a world about getting Republicans to break ranks. That's not what we're supposed to be hoping for. Sure maybe for the debt ceiling but that's it. You need a Democratic leadership to come out and inspire the country and coordinate some sort of resistance, such as a national strike.

You have to join us in reality man.

 

[repoman0]

The irony of calling for a national divorce as something that would protect rather than devastate tens of millions of non-MAGA people and saying “join us in reality” … some of you motherfuckers are so far gone. I mean you have the psycho who says he’d slaughter immigrants in a mass shooting if he could get a gun liking your post. That’s how you know.

 

[MrSquished]

The irony of calling for a national divorce as something that would protect rather than devastate tens of millions of non-MAGA people and saying “join us in reality” … some of you motherfuckers are so far gone. I mean you have the psycho who says he’d slaughter immigrants in a mass shooting if he could get a gun liking your post. That’s how you know.

Your opinion is foolish and naive, just like the Democratic party has been for many years.

You are basically saying - let's all live under horrific tyranny instead of at least saving many many tens of milions of people and put up some sort of a bulwark against what would be left as a purely tyrannical Trump/Musk led state.

What's your solution? Please, do tell.

 

[brycejones]

I would have slaughtered them all if I could get a gun legally in NYC but there's more hoops to get a gun legally here than winning the lottery!

Would have been just another mass shooting. No one gives a fuck anyways!

Ah yes, mass murder over shopping carts. That’s a good look.

 

[repoman0]

Your opinion is foolish and naive, just like the Democratic party has been for many years.

You are basically saying - let's all live under horrific tyranny instead of at least saving many many tens of milions of people and put up some sort of a bulwark against what would be left as a purely tyrannical Trump/Musk led state.

What's your solution? Please, do tell.

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Frankly you sound deranged here and every time you post lately, and your constant strawman fallacies don’t help your case. The current government is a shitshow but my life, my friends lives, my families lives have not changed. A national divorce would mean cratering the global economy, wiping out retirement savings, mass unemployment, civil war and mass death … it’s a joke of an idea and will never have popular approval outside of way too online armchair generals.

My solution is to let it fucking ride because he won the popular vote. There is a solution as old as this country and built into its founding documents — shoot them both if they won’t leave office. Roughly 1000x more realistic than a national divorce, lol.

 

[MrSquished]

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Frankly you sound deranged here and every time you post lately, and your constant strawman fallacies don’t help your case. The current government is a shitshow but my life, my friends lives, my families lives have not changed. A national divorce would mean cratering the global economy, wiping out retirement savings, mass unemployment, civil war and mass death … it’s a joke of an idea and will never have popular approval outside of way too online armchair generals.

My solution is to let it fucking ride because he won the popular vote. There is a solution as old as this country and built into its founding documents — shoot them both if they won’t leave office. Roughly 1000x more realistic than a national divorce, lol.

You have zero clue what is actually happening and your post just verified it. Just sit tight because he won the popular vote and let it ride LOLOL

Hvae you read a history book about what happens to countries when these exact people take over? You are sticking your head in the sand in order to be oblivious because the truth is too hard to handle. Now is not the time to do that.

How can you not see what is happening in this country? Also, if the Blue States are prepared sooner than later, there won't be a massive civil war, the fascists don't control the military yet. Sure there might be some violence but it would be more sporadic, and it's literally the only way not to subjugate ALL the country to fascism.

Wake up.

 

[repoman0]

You have zero clue what is actually happening and your post just verified it. Just sit tight because he won the popular vote and let it ride LOLOL

Hvae you read a history book about what happens to countries when these exact people take over? You are sticking your head in the sand in order to be oblivious because the truth is too hard to handle. Now is not the time to do that.

How can you not see what is happening in this country? Also, if the Blue States are prepared sooner than later, there won't be a massive civil war, the fascists don't control the military yet. Sure there might be some violence but it would be more sporadic, and it's literally the only way not to subjugate ALL the country to fascism.

Wake up.

If you think it’s going to get bad enough that the country has to split you are perfectly free to buy a rifle, spend some time on the range and not miss.

Until then just shut the fuck up about what you think I do or don’t know.

 

[MrSquished]

If you think it’s going to get bad enough that the country has to split you are perfectly free to buy a rifle, spend some time on the range and not miss.

Until then just shut the fuck up about what you think I do or don’t know.

The funny thing is you say the things I point out are clueless. Only you can call people out it seems in your wacky world.

You have zero idea of what is actually happening in this country, and if I were you, for your sake and your family's sake, I would start figuring shit out.

 

[repoman0]

The funny thing is you say the things I point out are clueless. Only you can call people out it seems in your wacky world.

You have zero idea of what is actually happening in this country, and if I were you, for your sake and your family's sake, I would start figuring shit out.

There you go again telling me what I do and don’t know like a condescending twerp. I know exactly what is happening and I also know that the national divorce idea is a stupid idea for simpletons.

Seriously, buy that rifle bro.

 

[Indus]

The funny thing is you say the things I point out are clueless. Only you can call people out it seems in your wacky world.

You have zero idea of what is actually happening in this country, and if I were you, for your sake and your family's sake, I would start figuring shit out.

Let it go.. if he wants to surrender now.. he can put on his MAGA hat.

And if those same migrants he feels so deeply for are willing to cross oceans for a better life.. are you telling me these fucking lazy fat ass Americans can't even cross a few state lines??

Bullshit gotcha keyboard warrior viewpoints that they've been taught by people on TV to spread the propaganda that MAGA are warriors and should learn to kill while Dems are wusses and should not get in the way.

 

[Indus]

There you go again telling me what I do and don’t know like a condescending twerp. I know exactly what is happening and I also know that the national divorce idea is a stupid idea for simpletons.

Seriously, buy that rifle bro.

Dude you have MAGA slaughtering their own families who're not pure enough and you still want to live with them?

Ok I wish you luck and happiness but I don't think you're gonna find it in Trumpistan!

 

[repoman0]

Dude you have MAGA slaughtering their own families who're not pure enough and you still want to live with them?

Ok I wish you luck and happiness but I don't think you're gonna find it in Trumpistan!

Where the fuck did you get that from my post? I don’t associate with any MAGA whatsoever.