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Dem senators urge justices to deny Hobby Lobby ObamaCare exemption

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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Whether your insurance covers it or not doesn't prevent you from doing it.

My insurance sure as hell didn't cover my tummy tuck surgery a couple years ago. Should I go bitch to Obama?
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Depends, it could be against your employer's religion to cover something you can't afford out of pocket. Once you say that employer religion determines employee's health insurance coverage, then everything is fair game. Your employer can claim he believes that it's up to God, not medicine, to cure people.
 
ivwshane said:
Exactly, and I bet you that the insurance plans they has before the ACA was passed included coverage that they are now complaining about.
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I call people like this Christian Hypocrites. They only act Christian when it isn't to inconvenient for them.
 
senseamp said:
Depends, it could be against your employer's religion to cover something you can't afford out of pocket. Once you say that employer religion determines employee's health insurance coverage, then everything is fair game. Your employer can claim he believes that it's up to God, not medicine, to cure people.
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And that STILL wouldn't prevent somebody from getting healthcare regardless of an employers religious beliefs.

Stop your lies right now.
 
senseamp said:
Depends, it could be against your employer's religion to cover something you can't afford out of pocket. Once you say that employer religion determines employee's health insurance coverage, then everything is fair game. Your employer can claim he believes that it's up to God, not medicine, to cure people.
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Perhaps with all the bitchin' they should just remove the medical benefit altogether. Would that make everything peachy? :colbert:
 
Texashiker said:
That is not true.

And so what if they did? Isn't free speech and freedom a religion a right?
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Of course it's true, whether you believe it or not.

The ACA denies nobody free speech and nobody the freedom to practice their own religion.

The Catholic Church has never stopped at that, and we both know it.
 
Jhhnn said:
Of course it's true, whether you believe it or not.

The ACA denies nobody free speech and nobody the freedom to practice their own religion.

The Catholic Church has never stopped at that, and we both know it.
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19,999!!

ALMOST 20k!!! Go JHHNN!!!
 
What if their owners were Christian Scientists and believed that healing was accomplished by prayer, and that doctors were unnecessary? Would Hobby Lobby then be permitted to waive providing their employees with ANY health insurance because it went against their religious beliefs? The government has, in the past, prosecuted Christian Scientist parents who refuse health care to their sick children. Does that mean that some religious rights are to be protected but not others? Does the government get to choose which religions are reasonable and which are not?

Is it OK to give a corporation, under the guise of its "religious freedom" and Bill of Rights-busting level of power over its employees that no corporation could achieve in any other fashion. What's to stop a corporation from insisting that other business regulations "violate" its "religious liberty"?

How about Scientologist pharmacists refusing to dispense psychotropic medications because they don't believe in them? It doesn't take much time to come up with a pretty lengthy list of groups who want exemptions for their special beliefs, not exemptions for themselves, but for employees who may not share their beliefs. Hey, if your boss of 10 years suddenly decides to convert to some special belief, are you required to go along with the company?
 
nehalem256 said:
If you want you coverage you can keep your coverage. Unless your coverage doesn't cover life-style drugs the Democrats think must be covered.

Seems like a winning slogan.
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OK, run on it, and go with that slogan. We'll go with the war on women thing and GOP singling out preventative care for women. And we'll see which works.
 
nehalem256 said:
If you want you coverage you can keep your coverage. Unless your coverage doesn't cover life-style drugs the Democrats think must be covered.

Seems like a winning slogan.
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LOL!...like no republicans use this so called "lifestyle coverage", its only the democrats! lol
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Perhaps with all the bitchin' they should just remove the medical benefit altogether. Would that make everything peachy? :colbert:
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The bureaucracy killed at least one person I know because existing benefits could not be uaed. Why? Because I'D numbers changed in advance of new medicaid cards being all sent. Regulations prevented giving providers the numbers the help desk representative had in front of her. By the time that snafu was resolved the patient died of AIDS.

I don't like any of it.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
Lifestyle coverage? You're a fucking buffoon.
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Its a lifestyle drug plain and simple. Not sure how that is even up for debate.

senseamp said:
OK, run on it, and go with that slogan. We'll go with the war on women thing and GOP singling out preventative care for women. And we'll see which works.
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Which do you think is more important to women? Coverage for cancer or coverage for birth control? :colbert:

Thanks to Obamacare's insistence on covering medically unnecessary drugs your mom died of cancer. Seems like a winning slogan to me.
 
ElFenix said:
so is it your contention that the current US also "doesn't work"?
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It didn't work for the dead man.

The problem is that true reform isn't a solution from some other place. It's a matter of planned investigation, intricate planning and apolitical execution
. Let me know when that is done and we'll talk merits of facets of the whole.
 
nehalem256 said:
Its a lifestyle drug plain and simple. Not sure how that is even up for debate.



Which do you think is more important to women? Coverage for cancer or coverage for birth control? :colbert:
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Why son of a gun! Why don't you do both at the same time with the same drug? Wow! What a concept!

From the American Cancer Society:

"Oxford University Professor Valerie Beral, along with researchers from the Collaborative Group on Epidemiological Studies of Ovarian Cancer, which includes researchers at the American Cancer Society, analyzed data from 45 studies conducted in the 1960s, '70s, and '80s. They found that the longer a woman took birth control pills, the lower her risk of ovarian cancer"


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/birth-control-pill-use-cuts-ovarian-cancer-risk
 
Victorian Gray said:
Why son of a gun! Why don't you do both at the same time with the same drug? Wow! What a concept!

From the American Cancer Society:

"Oxford University Professor Valerie Beral, along with researchers from the Collaborative Group on Epidemiological Studies of Ovarian Cancer, which includes researchers at the American Cancer Society, analyzed data from 45 studies conducted in the 1960s, '70s, and '80s. They found that the longer a woman took birth control pills, the lower her risk of ovarian cancer"


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/birth-control-pill-use-cuts-ovarian-cancer-risk
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Don't go and confuse the fucktard with facts.
 
nehalem256 said:
Its a lifestyle drug plain and simple. Not sure how that is even up for debate.



Which do you think is more important to women? Coverage for cancer or coverage for birth control? :colbert:

Thanks to Obamacare's insistence on covering medically unnecessary drugs your mom died of cancer. Seems like a winning slogan to me.
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Who's to stop an employer from claiming he doesn't believe in paying for cancer coverage?
 
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