Dem senators urge justices to deny Hobby Lobby ObamaCare exemption

[thraashman]

I love how you ran away from my response, you didn't call out that fucktard jhnn who brought it up.

Just gonna put these out here.

Resorting to insults because I dare disagree with you?

Resorting to insults because you got nothing, Not surprised.

Resorting to insults, You already lost the debate.

Resorting to insults because you got nothing.

 

[Texashiker]

Oh, please. Admitting privileges are merely a formality.

Admitting privileges are to ensure the doctor can provide complete care for the patient.

 

[SlickSnake]

Admitting privileges are to ensure the doctor can provide complete care for the patient.

I'm pretty sure when you dial 911 they don't ask you anything about admitting privileges.

And if a doc sees a patient at a clinic that needs to go to the hospital, again, admitting privileges are a non starter. The doc can still treat the patient in the hospital regardless of the admitting privileges or not. So it's kind of a formality, unless you need to routinely send patients there for diagnostic or therapy care.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/admitting-privileges-health-care/

 

[ivwshane]

I love how you ran away from my response, you didn't call out that fucktard jhnn who brought it up.

Lol! You are one stupid POS!

 

[Incorruptible]

Lol! You are one stupid POS!

Still not addressing your hypocrisy? Not surprised that a POS like you runs away. Still angry about getting tea bagged?

 

[ivwshane]

Still not addressing your hypocrisy? Not surprised that a POS like you runs away. Still angry about getting tea bagged?

Still not getting the point? No surprise, you are an "ignorant fucktard"!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Still not addressing your hypocrisy? Not surprised that a POS like you runs away. Still angry about getting tea bagged?

you have ZERO room to talk about hypocrisy you numb fuck. you're the epitome of hypocrisy, irony and intellectual dishonesty.
go teabag yourself, you waste of flesh.

 

[werepossum]

I'm pretty sure when you dial 911 they don't ask you anything about admitting privileges.

And if a doc sees a patient at a clinic that needs to go to the hospital, again, admitting privileges are a non starter. The doc can still treat the patient in the hospital regardless of the admitting privileges or not. So it's kind of a formality, unless you need to routinely send patients there for diagnostic or therapy care.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/admitting-privileges-health-care/

I think it's pretty much a self-correcting problem. If an abortion doctor is a real, practicing physician, then she will have admitting privileges and can be the woman's physician in the event something goes wrong. If an abortion doctor is only an abortion doctor and screws it up, you need a real, practicing physician anyway. In this case, if the abortion doctor screws up and you need hospitalization, you'll be assigned a competent doctor at the hospital. Worst of all likely cases is an abortionist botching the abortion and then attempting to treat the patient using admitting privileges for which he does only the bare minimum to qualify.

 

[Incorruptible]

Still not getting the point? No surprise, you are an "ignorant fucktard"!

You have to refused to attack jhnn for the same thing you attack me for. You're still an ignorant leftist piece of shit.

you have ZERO room to talk about hypocrisy you numb fuck. you're the epitome of hypocrisy, irony and intellectual dishonesty.
go teabag yourself, you waste of flesh.

Why don't you address the OP you fucktard. Feel free to go to another Tea Party rally and get your ass kicked again along with being tea bagged you pathetic excuse of a human being.

Tone it down a little. Thanks. 1 infraction point led to auto-vacation. - DrPizza

 

[ElFenix]

I think it's pretty much a self-correcting problem. If an abortion doctor is a real, practicing physician, then she will have admitting privileges and can be the woman's physician in the event something goes wrong. If an abortion doctor is only an abortion doctor and screws it up, you need a real, practicing physician anyway. In this case, if the abortion doctor screws up and you need hospitalization, you'll be assigned a competent doctor at the hospital. Worst of all likely cases is an abortionist botching the abortion and then attempting to treat the patient using admitting privileges for which he does only the bare minimum to qualify.

won't have admitting privileges if the only hospital in the area won't accept them because they abort babies and the hospital is christus.


the bolded is why the requirement is bullshit by the way. why does the doc need admitting privileges if the hospital is going to admit the patient anyway?

 

[werepossum]

won't have admitting privileges if the only hospital in the area won't accept them because they abort babies and the hospital is christus.

the bolded is why the requirement is bullshit by the way. why does the doc need admitting privileges if the hospital is going to admit the patient anyway?

For the first, possibly. I'm not sure how much latitude hospitals take or even have in granting admitting privileges as in my admittedly very limited experience it's a matter of doing a certain number of hours per year as well as keeping qualifications up. For the latter, it's a valid point in that if you start an invasive medical procedure you need to be able to provide urgent care should something go wrong, rather than another doctor starting cold on an internally hemorrhaging patient. I can certainly understand the point and accept its validity as the doctor who botched the procedure likely knows what damage he did, i.e. exactly where the procedure went wrong and therefore what steps must be done to stabilize and repair.

I'm just suspecting it's a self-correcting problem in that doctors without admitting privileges probably need to explain the botched procedure to a competent doctor and then just step aside rather than attempt to treat their own screw-up. To that extent it's not unlike doctors who are not licensed as surgeons doing things like liposuction. In a perfect world, a doctor doing liposuction is also a qualified surgeon and if he punctures an intestine, can fix it, knowing exactly where he was poking when he did so. It's probably vastly more likely that the doctor doing liposuction is not a qualified surgeon and must therefore turn over the case to a surgeon, whether or not he admits the patient and remains the physician of record. I suspect abortionists typically do little else but abortions and examinations, in which case being without admitting privileges does not make much difference either way.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think it's pretty much a self-correcting problem. If an abortion doctor is a real, practicing physician, then she will have admitting privileges and can be the woman's physician in the event something goes wrong. If an abortion doctor is only an abortion doctor and screws it up, you need a real, practicing physician anyway. In this case, if the abortion doctor screws up and you need hospitalization, you'll be assigned a competent doctor at the hospital. Worst of all likely cases is an abortionist botching the abortion and then attempting to treat the patient using admitting privileges for which he does only the bare minimum to qualify.

Half right. Abortion doctors often do so at no charge to the organization and are often not local, but rather visiting, so they won't have admitting privileges at a given local hospital. That changes their qualifications not at all.

You are correct in saying that local hospitals have staff and facilities on hand capable of dealing with what are rare complications from the procedure.

Or we can go back to illegal abortions & more big gubmint to enforce the law. Figure it out.

 

[Jhhnn]

Admitting privileges are to ensure the doctor can provide complete care for the patient.

Which is necessary because....

Have you never been sent to a specialist? Or sent to a different facility for treatment? If you suffer from a heart attack at the GP's office, do you think they can fix you up right there?

 

[Texashiker]

Have you never been sent to a specialist?

yes.

Or sent to a different facility for treatment?

My wife has.

If you suffer from a heart attack at the GP's office, do you think they can fix you up right there?

I would not want my wife going to a doctors office for surgery when the doctor does not have admitting privileges at the hospital.

I refuse to hold a woman I do not know to a different standard than I would hold my wife to.

You may not care about your wifes health, but I do.

 

[Jhhnn]

yes.



My wife has.



I would not want my wife going to a doctors office for surgery when the doctor does not have admitting privileges at the hospital.

I refuse to hold a woman I do not know to a different standard than I would hold my wife to.

You may not care about your wifes health, but I do.

So if she went to a doctor having admitting privileges at your local hospital for an abortion you'd be fine with it, I suppose.

That wouldn't be true at all, obviously. You are opposed to it in the first place, and merely attempt to rationalize that with faux concerns.

It's not what you prefer, anyway, but what women prefer. Many clearly prefer using a doctor w/o admitting privileges to not having the procedure at all or to traveling great distances to get it. They might prefer a doctor with those privileges, but such is simply unavailable in some parts of the country.

You're preaching Catch22 as if it weren't that at all.

 

[Texashiker]

That wouldn't be true at all, obviously. You are opposed to it in the first place, and merely attempt to rationalize that with faux concerns.

I rationalize my opposition to abortion because I love my children. Hell, I love all children, not just my own.

Every child should have the right to enjoy life, just as you have.

 

[umbrella39]

Once born... yes... indeed. Until then, stay out of her womb... the only business you ever had there lasted only 9 months and ended a long time ago. Since then any opinion you or any man ever has in regards to the potential life inside a woman is moot. A woman gets to decide if she wants to abort a pregnancy for any reason she sees fit and will continue to be legally allowed to do so from now until the end of time. You can simply get over it or die sad... your pick.