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Discussion in 'PC Gaming' started by olds, Nov 5, 2012.
At least back in the Quake days it only meant waiting for people to spawn and shooting them before they could get any decent equipment. i.e. just "Shooting people as they spawn."
That's always been my take.
To be fair, it depends on the game. In a game where you respawn, it's waiting in a respawn location and shooting people as they spawn before they have an opportunity to prepare themselves. In a game where you don't respawn (ie Counter-Strike), it's a failure to leave spawn and attempt the objective. But I think the first is more common, so I voted for it.
Far more problems with MP gaming than spawn campers imo.
I am referring to COD4.
I define spawn camping as how you win. All the team play I did in COD4 revolved around trapped the opposing team in the area they spawned in. We used to know exactly where the enemy was spawning based upon our location and where we were spawning. SD was slightly different because you knew the spawns and just lobbed set grenades to get kills at the start of the round.
I like to think of it two ways.
There is spawm camping that people hate, which is when someone figures out where players spawn, and camps that spot, near-instantly killing enemies when they respawn. Cheap and annoying.
Then there is spawn camping that is legit. If you push back the enemy team to the point where you surround their 'main' spawn and can spam it, then why wouldn't you? You are not hidden in a crack, unseen with a 5 degree field of view on a spawn point, but a player on a team overwhelming another. You are playing to win, don't feel bad about taking that win.
Only a small percentage of the time I got on a team being camped in BF, that I could not break out and nab a flag or 'get out of being spawn killed'.
In the Quake days I thought of spawn killing as when you aim a railgun at a spawn point and insta kill people when they spawn.
Quake Live is one game where I never stand a chance, still seems to be popular.
i think it can generally be both but most often it is the 1st one.
I don't play CoD online but in some games the person might spawn but be defenseless. In other words they may appear before they can move so sometimes you can kill them and they are dead before they know they spawned on their screen.
When I frag'em in the main from the antenna on Caspian...thats spawn camping and I love every minute of it.
Spawn Camping is a sign of poor game design.
I've only ever heard Spawn Camping as meaning the first. I don't think I've ever heard any name at all for the second - usually things get names because they're unfun but effective......and hanging around your own spawn doesn't really seem like it would do you any good.
The second usage is from counter-strike. IE camping terrorist spawn with an awp sniping through the double doors in dust2.
In terms of the COD games, organized teams will spawn "trap" an opposing team...like pushing them back and knowing that they will spawn in a particular area of the map because some team members are hanging out at other spawn points on a map.
I played a ton of Quake 3 back in the day and Quake Live a little bit more recently and spawn camping, at least in a duel sense, would be after you frag someone pointing your railgun to where you think your opponent might spawn next.
In BC2 on the Fort Nelson map you can spawn kill the enemy as they are parachuting in:laugh:
LOL Many years ago I can remember playing the vanilla version of BF 1942
I went on a MAD run.... And ALL I could think to myself was "why do these people keep standing up there?'.... I was such a TOOL BAG....
Spawn campers should be banned in some way from the game...
Short term... Like a 10 minute time out..
Just my 2 cents....
Are you really that insecure that you need to build your skilz in that way?
"Spawn camping" is the first option "shooting people as they spawn". "Camping" is the second option "shooting from (around) the spawn point"...
Sometimes they get kicked etc, depending on server rules. If the opposing team is puzzled about how to stop a sniper on a tower, then they deserve to get spawn blasted.
Spawn camping is PURELY design problem. Devs and map designers are the only ones to blame.
Spawn camping is consistent kill-farming using predictable enemy spawn points.
It's kinda stupid to ignore a method this efficient. It's just not fun for most people.
Yah. These teams are usually awful campers that don't "move out", or teams that are so grossly unbalanced, the better team has no real option but to base camp.
I'll admit, I was recently doing this on MOHWF but my friend told me to stop so being the good Samaritan I'm I did.