Define Genocide as it relates to Gaza....

[JEDIYoda]

You can`t define Genocide as it relates to Gaza......depending on who is defining Genocide it takes on many different meanings...

I took this from a facebook post by United with Israel --it is very appropriate....

 

[Victorian Gray]

 

[doubledeluxe]

 

[Brovane]

You can`t define Genocide as it relates to Gaza......depending on who is defining Genocide it takes on many different meanings...

Because it is politically correct in the Media to portray Israeli always as the aggressor and the Palestinians as the victims. Any Arab on Arab violence is ok.

 

[rommelrommel]

This thread sucks no matter what your position is.

 

[IGBT]

packing weapons of war in hospitals and elementary schools is the first one thru one hundred steps towards self induced genocide.

 

[DigDog]

killing innocent people to steal their land is not genocide as long as Israel is doing the killing;
it says so in the torah.

duh.

 

[Thebobo]

killing innocent people to steal their land is not genocide as long as Israel is doing the killing;
it says so in the torah.

duh.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Where ever it happens it still blow my mind that ENTIRE world sits back and watches (including US and Israel).

That seems to be the theme....

 

[Newell Steamer]

The big difference is that something is being done towards these, in some manner;
- Assad opposition ('rebels') has been supported; http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801
- ISIS has been bombed/groups fighting against ISIS are given support and supplies
- Boko Haram is being fought against as well

No one is denying what is happening on these 3 is wrong,.. and again, something is being done.

Yet, when Israel is criticized over their treatment of the Palestinians, people like you scream bloody murder,.. as if all of the above is happening to Israel, by those who oppose them, and then some.

They are just words,.. then again, there is no other way that you can get sympathy for Israel, so, you've made these words seem just as powerful as the actions above.

You seem concerned over these other people, but, you are using their plight just to paint Israel as some victim - that's pretty shameful,...

 

[WelshBloke]

So OP is equating the Israeli government with Assad, ISIS and Boko Haram?

 

[fskimospy]

So OP is equating the Israeli government with Assad, ISIS and Boko Haram?

The argument basically seems to be "if other people are doing bad things that means it's ok for Israel to do bad things".

 

[Newell Steamer]

The argument basically seems to be "if other people are doing bad things that means it's ok for Israel to do bad things".

Or, more like the retaliation / response to those people doing bad things (bombing, assassinations, etc.) is on par with criticizing Israel.

 

[DigDog]

The argument basically seems to be "if other people are doing bad things that means it's ok for Israel to do bad things".

ISIS are a bunch of ignorant cavemen. Assad is a criminal. Israel just doesn't care about anyone except themselves.

For a nation with such a huge number of Nobel prizes, they sure come short in the conscience department.

 

[WelshBloke]

The argument basically seems to be "if other people are doing bad things that means it's ok for Israel to do bad things".

I'm just surprised that the OP's organisers let him run with "Israel. Slightly better than ISIS." as a thread.

 

[moonbogg]

Its OK to say the truth here once in a while, right? Here it is.

The only reasons the world allowed Israel to be created are close religious ties to Christianity and holocaust guilt.
The only reasons the world allows Israel to continue as it does are close religious ties to Christianity and holocaust guilt.

Oh, also. Israel doesn't commit genocide. That's fucking retarded to say that. If it was genocide, they would roll in there and kill everyone and displace the rest. That's what genocide is.

Truth has been spoken.

 

[Oyeve]

Ah, another isreal can do no wrong thread. Fuckem, there are reasons they are basically hated worldwide.

 

[inachu]

So OP is equating the Israeli government with Assad, ISIS and Boko Haram?

Even Richard Pearle has stated that the Palestinians are the Israeli jews version of the American Indians and we are doing just what the American have done..... Then he says.... whats wrong with that?


Just shows how little soul is left in his body.

 

[inachu]

The funny part the new investigations even prove todays jews are european and not at all except for in the very least jewish and going by their own standards they have less than 1% Israeli blood line. Their jewish blood line is so thing that many now are born without curly hair. Afro hair used to be the main selling point that they were jewish but their actions prove beyond a doubt that even many now have blonde hair and blue eyes in germany.

 

[DigDog]

Oh, also. Israel doesn't commit genocide. That's fucking retarded to say that. If it was genocide, they would roll in there and kill everyone and displace the rest. That's what genocide is.

Truth has been spoken.

i kinda agree with this. must be the alcohol.

 

[fskimospy]

i kinda agree with this. must be the alcohol.

Genocide does not require the destruction of all people of a race by most definitions. (there are lots of different definitions of genocide)

What Israel is doing in Gaza definitely fits into more than a few of them.

 

[moonbogg]

Genocide does not require the destruction of all people of a race by most definitions. (there are lots of different definitions of genocide)

What Israel is doing in Gaza definitely fits into more than a few of them.

Find another word for what they are doing, because its not genocide. Its not even a kindler, gentler genocide. Its just plain not genocide. Genocide is where you kill as many of them as you can, or a very large number. Genocide is when you kill them because you want them GONE, as in you want to kill them ALL. People use the word genocide to describe Israel as a slap in their face because of what Hitler did to them. Its meant to be an insult and make Israel look as bad as the worst guy in recent memory, their mass killer Hitler. People who don't see this are idiots and obviously have an odd inability to google the word "genocide".

"Genocide is the systematic destruction of all or a significant part of a racial, ethnic, religious or national group"

Israel does a lot of mean and unjust shit, but fucking genocide is not one of those things.

 

[lozina]

Find another word for what they are doing

ethnic cleansing

 

[JEDIYoda]

So OP is equating the Israeli government with Assad, ISIS and Boko Haram?

you like to think your appointed the spokeperson for OP`s world wide?

 

[JEDIYoda]

There has not been a war or a Police Action or any sort of combat where that definition of Genocide has not been applied...correctly or incorrectly it has still been applied.......

Determining what historical events constitute a genocide and which are merely criminal or inhuman behavior is not a clear-cut matter. In nearly every case where accusations of genocide have circulated, partisans of various sides have fiercely disputed the details and interpretation of the event, often to the point of depicting wildly different versions of the facts. Alleged genocides should be understood in this context and such allegations cannot be regarded as the final word.

Legally, genocide is defined as any conflict that the International Criminal Court has so designated. Many conflicts that have been labeled genocide in the popular press have not been so designated.[2]

M. Hassan Kakar[3] argued that the definition should include political groups or any group so defined by the perpetrator. He prefers the definition Chalk and Jonassohn: "Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group so defined by the perpetrator."[4]

Some critics of the international definition argued that the definition was influenced by Joseph Stalin to exclude political groups.[5][6]

According to R. J. Rummel, genocide has multiple meanings. The ordinary meaning is murder by a government of people due to their national, ethnic, racial, or religious group membership. The legal meaning is defined by CCPG. This includes actions such as preventing births or forcibly transferring children to another group. Rummel created the term democide to include assaults on political groups.[7]

In this article, atrocities that have been called genocide by some reliable source are included, whether or not they match one of these definitions. The acts may involve mass killings, mass deportations, withholding of food and/or other necessities of life, death by invasive infectious disease agents or combinations of these, whether or not specific evidence documents an intent by the perpetrators to destroy a people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history