Originally posted by: miketheidiot
talk about a punishment that doesn't fit the crime.
How about life in maximum security prison in general population. I hear they love child rapists.
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
talk about a punishment that doesn't fit the crime.
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
I don't feel comfortable paying my tax dollars (let alone if it's coming from somwhere else) for someone to sit in an A/C comfortable cell, get fed every day and entertain themselves.
Who wouldn't want to spend 23 hours of their day in tiny cell eating crappy cafeteria food for the rest of their life?
Some facts about the death penalty:
- Costs more than life in prison
- Has been proven to not be a deterrent to commiting crimes
- Since 1976 one person on death row has been freed for every seven people put to death
By advocating the death penalty you implicitly support the idea that the benefits of the death penalty outweigh the "cost" of executing innocent people. You think a one day rape/murder is bad? What about executing an innocent person whose been forced to rot away decades of his life in small cell?
Can some death penalty supporter address the last point please?
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Who wouldn't want to spend 23 hours of their day in tiny cell eating crappy cafeteria food for the rest of their life?
Some facts about the death penalty:
- Costs more than life in prison
- Has been proven to not be a deterrent to commiting crimes
- Since 1976 one person on death row has been freed for every seven people put to death
By advocating the death penalty you implicitly support the idea that the benefits of the death penalty outweigh the "cost" of executing innocent people. You think a one day rape/murder is bad? What about executing an innocent person whose been forced to rot away decades of his life in small cell?
Can some death penalty supporter address the last point please?
I did. Read my last post. If the death penalty was made simplyer. Execution within a couple of days v.s. execution within a couple of years. Also public executions.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Who wouldn't want to spend 23 hours of their day in tiny cell eating crappy cafeteria food for the rest of their life?
Some facts about the death penalty:
- Costs more than life in prison
- Has been proven to not be a deterrent to commiting crimes
- Since 1976 one person on death row has been freed for every seven people put to death
By advocating the death penalty you implicitly support the idea that the benefits of the death penalty outweigh the "cost" of executing innocent people. You think a one day rape/murder is bad? What about executing an innocent person whose been forced to rot away decades of his life in small cell?
Can some death penalty supporter address the last point please?
I did. Read my last post. If the death penalty was made simplyer. Execution within a couple of days v.s. execution within a couple of years. Also public executions.
No, you really didn't. His point was that for every 7 executions, one person slated to be executed has been later found innocent and released. That is a shamefully high level. If we followed your example more then a hundred people who were later exonerated would have been executed.
If you are willing to slaughter more then 100 people, you should be able to show a tangible benefit for their deaths. You can't say it would deter crime... as we both know that's not true.. Expense is a very very poor argument as well, because if people are becoming too expensive to give their due process rights under the constitution, what other segments of our population are becoming too expensive to have their rights? I'm looking at you, old people.
I do not believe that an intellectually honest argument can use either of those two previous points. If you have another one I would be very interested to hear it, or if you can think of some way not to make those dishonest then please share it. I have a feeling like you will repeat some emotional, off the cuff, unsupported opinions however.
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles
Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?
On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Personally i think that this is just another sign of the increasing authoritarian nature of some parts of american society. Some people are almost eager to kill people for various offenses
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I'm guessing you don't have children. I think pedophiles should be put to death.
Originally posted by: hellokeith
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Personally i think that this is just another sign of the increasing authoritarian nature of some parts of american society. Some people are almost eager to kill people for various offenses
It started by libs making it legal for women to execute their own babies.
Originally posted by: iskim86
i rape myself many times a week, by masturbating on schedule even when i don't want to.
am i gonna be executed?
Because it's wrong. It's adding 2+2 and getting 5. While it's true that rape is more about power and rage, not sexual desire, it is also true that rage and need for power are driven by testosterone. What's the physiological effect of castration? Greatly reduced testosterone.Originally posted by: palehorse74
QFT... too many people here are ignoring this point.Originally posted by: Genx87
Castration does nothing. Talk about a waste of taxpayers money. Pedophilia(sp) and rape are pyschological issues, not sexual.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Who wouldn't want to spend 23 hours of their day in tiny cell eating crappy cafeteria food for the rest of their life?
Some facts about the death penalty:
- Costs more than life in prison
- Has been proven to not be a deterrent to commiting crimes
- Since 1976 one person on death row has been freed for every seven people put to death
By advocating the death penalty you implicitly support the idea that the benefits of the death penalty outweigh the "cost" of executing innocent people. You think a one day rape/murder is bad? What about executing an innocent person whose been forced to rot away decades of his life in small cell?
Can some death penalty supporter address the last point please?
I did. Read my last post. If the death penalty was made simplyer. Execution within a couple of days v.s. execution within a couple of years. Also public executions.
No, you really didn't. His point was that for every 7 executions, one person slated to be executed has been later found innocent and released. That is a shamefully high level. If we followed your example more then a hundred people who were later exonerated would have been executed.
If you are willing to slaughter more then 100 people, you should be able to show a tangible benefit for their deaths. You can't say it would deter crime... as we both know that's not true.. Expense is a very very poor argument as well, because if people are becoming too expensive to give their due process rights under the constitution, what other segments of our population are becoming too expensive to have their rights? I'm looking at you, old people.
I do not believe that an intellectually honest argument can use either of those two previous points. If you have another one I would be very interested to hear it, or if you can think of some way not to make those dishonest then please share it. I have a feeling like you will repeat some emotional, off the cuff, unsupported opinions however.
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I'm guessing you don't have children. I think pedophiles should be put to death.
Murder is wrong. Killing is not always murder.Originally posted by: Ryan
Why do we kill people to show that killing people is wrong? (cliché, I know).
Originally posted by: Darwin333
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
talk about a punishment that doesn't fit the crime.
How about life in maximum security prison in general population. I hear they love child rapists.
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I'm guessing you don't have children. I think pedophiles should be put to death.
Who are you speaking to? I do have a daughter. She's 8. I can't imagine what it would be like to find out she'd been molested, it's almost too surreal to conceive so I couldn't even imagine my response. I still don't think anybody should be executed over it.
I don't support the death penalty at all, certainly not here. The justice system is far too susceptible to mistakes and often outright lies. How many innocent fathers are accused of child molestation by their vicious ex-wives and her sleazy attorney? It happens all the time.