Death penalty for pedophiles?

[BoberFett]

Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

 

[manowar821]

Rape should be punishable by death, anyway. So yes, it's something that should require the death penalty, IMO.

Go to hell, rapists.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I understand the concern about 18 and 14 year olds, and similar what if situaitons... but 30 year olds preying on 12 year olds is a little much for a civilized society to permit.

What would you have us do with them? Give them free room and board for life? If they are not fit to live in society then why does society suffer them to live?

 

[miketheidiot]

talk about a punishment that doesn't fit the crime.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Rape should be punishable by death, anyway. So yes, it's something that should require the death penalty, IMO.

Go to hell, rapists.

hmmmmm....this reminds me about the practice of cutting off limbs for petty crimes....where will the slippery slope lead us?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I understand the concern about 18 and 14 year olds, and similar what if situaitons... but 30 year olds preying on 12 year olds is a little much for a civilized society to permit.

What would you have us do with them? Give them free room and board for life? If they are not fit to live in society then why does society suffer them to live?

I love how everyone makes life in prison seem as if it were some bed and breakfast cottage in the mountains - prison is not a free ride. Life in prison is cheaper than putting them to death considering the legal processes that come into play when someone is put to death. Who are you to decide if life in prison is suffering for a person? Many will gladly take it over death....

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

 

[K1052]

Given the problems with our criminal justice systems, I really don't think expanding the crimes eligible for capital punishment is a good idea.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

Why do we kill people to show that killing people is wrong? (cliché, I know).

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

Yeah... cause China is the example that we want to be following in making laws. :roll:

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

In every one of these threads someone is stupid enough to use the Chinese legal system (or lack thereof) as an example to be emulated.

 

[miketheidiot]

Personally i think that this is just another sign of the increasing authoritarian nature of some parts of american society. Some people are almost eager to kill people for various offenses

 

[ayabe]

The problem is that these people can never be released from prison, it's an incurable disease basically and the chances that they will harm another child are astronomical.

Don't know if I would go for the death sentence, maybe castration.

I'm fresh out of ideas.

 

[Arkaign]

Death Penalty? No.

Castration? Yes

 

[techs]

When we have political commentators who routinely call for death of people who haven't done anything wrong, but who they merely don't like, say gays, then it becomes easy to say that people who have actually committed a crime should surely be put to death.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

It has been said dozens if not hundreds of times on here, but it will not teach people not to break the law. There is NO correlation between the death penalty and a decrease in crime. Increasing the severity of punishments is the WORST possible way to control crime. Studies have clearly... clearly shown that if you reduce prison sentences, but put that money into more law enforcement that you will have a far better effect on crime rates then simply more draconian laws.

I'm not sure if you guys know this, but rape used to be an executable offense in the US until Coker v. Georgia. The supreme court concluded that the punishment was far in excess of the crime committed, and so it ran afoul of the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the constitution. (that, and that close to ninety percent of the people sentenced to death for rape were black, so it was racist too) As the article mentions, this law may very well run into problems when it reaches the supreme court.

 

[bsobel]

Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

Without giving my own opinion, did you read the story you linked. It was clearly aimed at victims 12 and under....

 

[miketheidiot]

we should just have lynch mobs, people will be afraid to even make it look like they may have done anything wrong.

 

[dmcowen674]

Better than housing and feeding them for a lifetime at taxpayer expense.

 

[Aisengard]

Castration is the only way. And everyone would support it.

It's a lot less vile than killing the guy.

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

It has been said dozens if not hundreds of times on here, but it will not teach people not to break the law. There is NO correlation between the death penalty and a decrease in crime. Increasing the severity of punishments is the WORST possible way to control crime. Studies have clearly... clearly shown that if you reduce prison sentences, but put that money into more law enforcement that you will have a far better effect on crime rates then simply more draconian laws.

I'm not sure if you guys know this, but rape used to be an executable offense in the US until Coker v. Georgia. The supreme court concluded that the punishment was far in excess of the crime committed, and so it ran afoul of the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the constitution. (that, and that close to ninety percent of the people sentenced to death for rape were black, so it was racist too) As the article mentions, this law may very well run into problems when it reaches the supreme court.

What do you think the likely hood is for people who are released from prison. Someone who is parolled or eventually leaves the system does little for the world after they leave. In that fact they either commit another crime or they end up on the streets. Most people who are institutionalized for that long have a hard time going back to normal. I also don't feel it's worth it for those who have life in prison without the possibility for parol. What are you actually teaching a person when you put them in prison for ever. The idea is they will eventually rot in prison. They can't do anything productive for themselves (what they want to do) in prison either.

I don't feel comfortable paying my tax dollars (let alone if it's coming from somwhere else) for someone to sit in an A/C comfortable cell, get fed every day and entertain themselves. What exactly is someone putting into the system who killed someone, gets life and sits in prision leaching off the system. Is it worth rehabilitating someone who has life.

 

[Genx87]

Castration does nothing. Talk about a waste of taxpayers money. Pedophilia(sp) and rape are pyschological issues, not sexual.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty? Is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

I'm very for the death penalty. I believe a lot of things should be punishable with death. That is the problem in this country right now. Everybody gets a good attorney and gets off or does good behavior in prison and gets time reduction. Does a plea bargin for information and gets off. In China for example if your caught with drugs it's the death penalty. China dosen't pussyfy their death penalty like the U.S. does. They use a firing range execution style in public display. That will teach people not to break the law.

I do also suggest persons who show psychologically that they are true pedophiles should be medically casterated. In some situations it dosen't have to be proven but if at least they perform the criminal act of pedophilia they should be chemically casterated or physically. I also believe in branded people like you would do cattle so everyone knows you were a pedophilia.

It has been said dozens if not hundreds of times on here, but it will not teach people not to break the law. There is NO correlation between the death penalty and a decrease in crime. Increasing the severity of punishments is the WORST possible way to control crime. Studies have clearly... clearly shown that if you reduce prison sentences, but put that money into more law enforcement that you will have a far better effect on crime rates then simply more draconian laws.

I'm not sure if you guys know this, but rape used to be an executable offense in the US until Coker v. Georgia. The supreme court concluded that the punishment was far in excess of the crime committed, and so it ran afoul of the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the constitution. (that, and that close to ninety percent of the people sentenced to death for rape were black, so it was racist too) As the article mentions, this law may very well run into problems when it reaches the supreme court.

What do you think the likely hood is for people who are released from prison. Someone who is parolled or eventually leaves the system does little for the world after they leave. In that fact they either commit another crime or they end up on the streets. Most people who are institutionalized for that long have a hard time going back to normal. I also don't feel it's worth it for those who have life in prison without the possibility for parol. What are you actually teaching a person when you put them in prison for ever. The idea is they will eventually rot in prison. They can't do anything productive for themselves (what they want to do) in prison either.

I don't feel comfortable paying my tax dollars (let alone if it's coming from somwhere else) for someone to sit in an A/C comfortable cell, get fed every day and entertain themselves. What exactly is someone putting into the system who killed someone, gets life and sits in prision leaching off the system. Is it worth rehabilitating someone who has life.

Who are you to decide the worthiness of life? I could tell you myself, that if I were ever faced with the choice, I'd choose to spend the rest of my life in prison, rather than death.

Also - it costs more to put a person to death in thsi country than it would cost to keep them in prison for life - this is a FACT: http://www.google.com/search?q=death+penalty+expense

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Death penalty for pedophiles

Apparently we're going to keep moving the bar lower for capital punishment. As horrific a crime as child rape is, does is really require the death penalty?

yes.

is raping a child really that much worse than raping an adult? Will a 17 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend in a state where minors can face the death penalty find themselves strapped to a gurney?

Do all murderers suffer the death penalty? well then, try to use some common sense...

On top of the death penalty being an irreversible punishment, and all too frequently found to have been sentenced upon innocent people, this seems like we're going the wrong direction.

nope. this direction is fine. In fact, I believe the death penalty may be too NICE of a penalty for what pedophiles are doing!

 

[theeedude]

Well, since executing killers did so much to reduce Texas murder rates, why not try it with other crimes.