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Dearborn school district now offering students 100% Halal menu
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Victorian Gray
Lifer
"Eating meat killed in a ritualistic manner (Kutha meat): Sikhs are strictly prohibited from eating meat killed in a ritualistic manner (such as halal or kosher, known as Kutha meat[8] ), or any meat where langar is served.[9] For many Sikhs (and in some small Sikh sects, e.g. Akhand Kirtani Jatha) eating any meat is believed to be forbidden, but this is not a universally held belief.[10] The meat eaten by Sikhs is known as Jhatka meat."
Prohibitions in Sikhism - Wikipedia
That happens all the time, though. There's a kind of tyranny of the majority that operates even without explict laws. It works via the market and peer and social pressure and just the way things get arranged.
I do think something like this can _become_ a problem, but to a large degree it's unavoidable and hence people need to show a bit of tolerance and common sense. If there are no children in those schools who have _real_ religious objections to Halal such that they can't eat it, I'd say let it go and worry about more important things.
And, boy, are there more important things to worry about these days.
True and they are a decent percentage in the area
Also anyone who does not believe in Allah. it is extremely offensive that I have to a person of the "book" to be able to get USDA funds and run a slaughterhouse. As eskimo said, If I was not special and a person of the book, then I am not deemed worthy enough to get a job there. since he is a person of the book, he is special and it is fine.
"“Bismillahirrahmanirrahiyyim” or “In the name of Allah the compassionate and merciful,” is actually the full phrase you utter before slaughter. " .
Sure, if that's the case then I don't see that its going to be an issue.
Hmmm, though are there really lots of unemployed, atheist or Hindu, slaughterhouse workers in that area? (Hindu seems particularly unlikely). Is this really an issue worth getting worked up about, or is there some other agenda involved?
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
In point of fact, you are wrong.
Halal - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
People of the Book - Wikipedia
Thank you for the People of the Book.
Per a moderately serious Muslim guy I worked with anyone who believes in the Old Testament is approved. He made assumptions at sandwich places but if there were any sandwich makers with a cross necklace or Star of David necklace he’d wait for them to prepare the food.
nakedfrog
No Lifer
They probably have jobs for people other than the ones doing the slaughtering, you know.
Apparently not a new idea in the area
From 2001
School System In Michigan Plans to Serve Muslim Food (Published 2001)
School officials in Dearborn, Mich, work on plan to serve food in school cafeterias that meets Muslim dietary rules; thousands of parents have demanded this in keeping with ethnic diversity of city in which some grade schools are more than 90 percent Muslim (M)www.nytimes.com
Thanks VG. That's how islamization starts and ghettoisation and next thing you know a Bradfordistan or a Londonistan is created
It's amazing how they start off a test run and then halal meat is slowly increased over a generation and next thing you know 100% is Halal meat. Then comes the sharia court. I am surprised a lefty like me is mad about this while the other liberals are not mad. I do not want the US to slowly veer towards Islamic religious fundamentalism.
Victorian Gray
Lifer
Apparently about 70% of students in the area are Arab-American and I'm guessing that the vast majority would be of the Muslim faith.
Dearborn Public Schools - Wikipedia
Victorian Gray
Lifer
Are you unhappy with Christians and Jews as well?
Victorian Gray
Lifer
Good thing that's not happening then.
brycejones
Lifer
I live in Dearborn and this change makes sense for the area. This year the school district moved to a new provider that does made from scratch cooking on site vs the old system of just heating up prepared/processed crap. This move would simplify their logistics and make menu planning easier.
NG, it is not about the other jobs, sorry if I am came across as rude.heheh. got a little vehement. 🙂
It's that govt money is going towards this.
Again apologize since I was a little rude towards you. You too eskimo [we had our argument over a gamut of issues, but you are cool man and a patriot !!!
theeedude
Lifer
We already have "sharia" from our SCOTUS, which exempts folks with "strongly held religious beliefs" from having to follow laws that apply to everyone else. You are barking up the wrong tree. Have a halal kebob, wash it down with some ayran, say a Hail Mary and relax.
brycejones
Lifer
They aren’t but do you know anything about Dearborn? It seems to be on a regular basis the scary place where Muslims are taking over according to right wing justice warriors.
Trust me they aren’t. It’s a diverse community for sure but not some scary place.
zzyzxroad
Diamond Member
Dearborn Schools offering more diverse, fresher menu
Dearborn Public Schools is overhauling its school menu this year.www.pressandguide.com
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The main problem I have with halal meat is that it is not fair to people of other faiths
halal meat requires that certain mumbo reglious words be uttered before animal is killed and that the person who does it has to be Muslim. This means right away job opportunities are taken away from people of other faiths. This is extremely discriminatory
I wish I had time to be concerned with such a trivial issue.
All I heard from a few folks is that it looks like little Arabia. I do not know the details but I do some have some concerns that it may over the next few decades turn this area into a no-go type of situation. Also if I was a atheist butcher, I will never be able to get employment , since only people of the book [which I doubt, since I cannot imagine Christians or Jews saying “Bismillahirrahmanirrahiyyim” when about to kill the cow.[for alternator sized cuts obviously]
After seeing some of the islamic ghettos in Europe and UK, I do not want that situation ever to happen in the US.
brycejones
Lifer
Dearborn is really a bastion of Islamic law, with the strip clubs, liquor stores (sorry party store) on every other corner, etc.
They're apparently a majority.
One Detroit
www.detroitjournalism.org
American Christian kids don't care if it's Halal, Kosher, whatever. I matters to some immigrant Muslims, apparently, so it's important to serve what they'll actually eat to meet the goals of the program.
I really don't understand why anybody would get all frothed up about it.
brycejones
Lifer
Well it isn’t like that at all, and your fears are unfounded.
Victorian Gray
Lifer
They're apparently a majority.
One Detroit
American Christian kids don't care if it's Halal, Kosher, whatever. I matters to some immigrant Muslims, apparently, so it's important to serve what they'll actually eat to meet the goals of the program.
I really don't understand why anybody would get all frothed up about it.
Because Muslims are verrrry scary. First it's the food, then it's forced conversion. Oh so verrrry scary.
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