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You probably have the offline version or your internet never went down. Many people have the same problem. Either way, analog sticks and rumble don't work. No reason not to make it work in offline mode, just the creator is a douchebag and that's all.
The fact remains the software is like intrusive spyware and its difficult to fully remove it. I used to think "this software is pretty great, lets me use my ps3 controller on my computer and all I need to do is start up a program" but then their site went down. Then got an xbox controller and immediately realized why people say its so great. I plugged it in and it just worked, rumble and everything.
and yeah the dpad sucks on the xbox controller but you don't use that much anymore unless all you play are fighting games.
arredondo
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To the OP.... MotionJoy is fantastic. I use it to play any and all d-pad games on my PC (Win7 64-bit) with a DualShock 3. I've set it up properly, so it is a simple matter of hitting the Home button to turn on the DS3 and then clicking one button in the program itself and it emulates the X360 pad perfectly in every game. It takes five seconds and only needs to be done when you reset the computer. So if I am simply using it to emulate the 360 pad, why not use the 360 pad itself?
- Bluetooth compatibility (including full rumble support) means that fumbling with batteries is not necessary like it is for mere wireless pads.
- The X360 d-pad is an abomination, one of the worst in the history of gaming. There are plenty of cool games that use the d-pad, like fighting games, 2D scrollers, shoot em ups, various arcade genres, etc., so being able to use the DS3's infinitely better d-pad is wonderful.
- I prefer the DS3's ergonomics. The classic design continues to feel great.
- Analog sticks on the DS3 have a smaller "throw" range before activation than the 360 sticks. This means that if you barely move the DS3's analogs, it registers in game earlier which allows me more precision with subtle inputs.
The main negative is that PC games that show pad buttons on screen display X360 buttons and often have no option to display DS3 buttons. This can be a bit confusing at first (360's 'X' is the 'O' button on the DS3), but you get used to it.
Motionjoy works offline just fine. Also, I have no spyware on my computer as a result of using it for at least three months. I have multiple spyware detectors, I paid for an excellent virus protector and also have run Malwarebytes a few times. No traces of anything strange at all.
- Bluetooth compatibility (including full rumble support) means that fumbling with batteries is not necessary like it is for mere wireless pads.
- The X360 d-pad is an abomination, one of the worst in the history of gaming. There are plenty of cool games that use the d-pad, like fighting games, 2D scrollers, shoot em ups, various arcade genres, etc., so being able to use the DS3's infinitely better d-pad is wonderful.
- I prefer the DS3's ergonomics. The classic design continues to feel great.
- Analog sticks on the DS3 have a smaller "throw" range before activation than the 360 sticks. This means that if you barely move the DS3's analogs, it registers in game earlier which allows me more precision with subtle inputs.
The main negative is that PC games that show pad buttons on screen display X360 buttons and often have no option to display DS3 buttons. This can be a bit confusing at first (360's 'X' is the 'O' button on the DS3), but you get used to it.
Motionjoy works offline just fine. Also, I have no spyware on my computer as a result of using it for at least three months. I have multiple spyware detectors, I paid for an excellent virus protector and also have run Malwarebytes a few times. No traces of anything strange at all.
I don't want to get into personal preferences on how the controller feels and how bad the xbox dpad is. That's not the point of the thread.
Motionjoy doesn't download spyware or malware. It IS the malware because you can't remove it completely and it screws up your drivers for future controllers and torrents. And if you got the offline working complete with rumble and analog sticks: congratulations, you have accomplished what 90% of the motionjoy users can't.
Also I needed to start the program twice every time I turn off the computer. First time to get the controller to get recognized, second time to get analog and rumble features. Don't know why, but others have problems and this was their solution. Maybe you have a better idea, newer drivers or some other guy's hack. Dunno.
Believe me, I want to enjoy this program but its not worth the hassle. When I want to use the xbox controller I just press the middle button and I'm on my merry way. No programs to run, no checking my internet connection.
zinfamous
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lol, this.
and yes--it's not that MIJ installs separate malware or spyware, it's that it behaves exactly like malware and spyware would. Much like Realplayer.
On top of that, the developer is a complete douchenoggin with no desire to make his software user-friendly, much less free of the trojan-like architecture. This might be because he has zero interpersonal skills, as evidenced by his forum posts.
unless sony actually decides to release a driver (aka when hell freezes over) not likely. All the drivers I found while motionjoy's site was down were different versions of motionjoy or didn't work.
If you HAVE to have a ps3 controller you really have no choice. I opted to get another controller rather than use that piece of crap malware. I also used a dualshock 2 with USB adapter + joy2key in the mean time.
If you HAVE to have a ps3 controller you really have no choice. I opted to get another controller rather than use that piece of crap malware. I also used a dualshock 2 with USB adapter + joy2key in the mean time.
railven
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Pretty much, except I occassionaly sync ny phone when I can't find my USB cable for data migration.
Not sure how deep this goes into the registry, but I can't recall a single issue removing the software.
I alternative between a PS3 or Xbox360 wired, depending which one is closest to the PC at the time.
arredondo
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Exactly right - no issues. I'm using the latest drivers.
When I built a new rig a few months ago, my old one was given to the family. MotionJoy was removed - no issues at all. I am enjoying this great program on my new machine - no issues at all.
It's one of the best must-have apps for a serious gamer who doesn't want to deal with the X360 pad's native issues and loves Bluetooth control with the Dual Shock 3.
You like the DS3, we get it. I like it too and own a ps3. Good for you. Again this topic is not about your controller preference and why xbox 360 controller suck.
I tried removing MIJ but when I installed the xbox360 controller the driver came up repeatedly despite my best attempts to manually delete it. It ended up screwing around with every peripheral I had, including the xbox controller. The driver kept coming back via auto-detect even though I had tried to manual remove it from device manager numerous times and made sure the uninstall was clean. I didn't know where the .sys files were or i'd have nuked it from orbit. As I speak, the drivers are STILL THERE.
Maybe the developer eventually gave in and enabled full driver support (analog + rumble) for those who don't have a constant internet connection after the outage fiasco last year. If you have a reference to MIJ's forum post about when this was patched in please link it for those interested. Otherwise I stand by my original point of when I used it: No internet no driver support.
It's great that you have no problems with it but I'm throwing cautions out there for anybody who isn't as lucky.
I use the wired version of this (the f510) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104403 and it is excellent. Keys map to all the games with xbox control support but if you prefer the ps3 form factor it is basically a dual shock. Can't speak on the wireless part but gets good reviews.
Tweak155
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Not sure how recently you've tried it, but I'm in the same boat as the person you're quoting. I use MotionJoy and I have support for analog and rumble. Granted I had to figure out how to get it working - it works.
I'm fine with the PS3 controller for classic emulation. New games such as Bastion will not recognize the PS3 controller, but natively recognize the X360 controller. So depends on your market is my suggestion. I like the D-Pad of the PS3 so it gets my vote. Not to mention it is smaller and I had an extra one I yanked from my PS3 that has no good multiplayer games over the 360 (I take a 360 game over ps3).
There was an offline version which supports the usage of the controller but didn't give you analog and rumble. If he released a new version which added those features to offline mode then great for people who use it. Otherwise the old problem is if you lose connection you lose analog and rumble.
I used to use MIJ up until the site went down around (october~ish or earlier? Not too sure).
arredondo
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What you don't get is that the OP asked about DS3 support and we have all kinds of ridiculous statements regarding MJ. I'm adding clarity, including why it is silly to say he should simply use the 360 controller if he's obviously looking for a DS3 solution.
A - Motion Joy works, and works extremely well. That much some of us have made clear to counter some of the crazy claims made here.
B - Asking people to use the 360 controller without admitting that the d-pad is beyond horrible is like recommending a car and not telling them it has no power steering. Sure it technically works, but at least they should know what kind of gimped experience they are in for.
So don't fuss at me. If you want this DS3 thread not include comments on the X360 pad, then tell those who recommend the X360 pad not to bring it up or post up full disclosure about its shortcomings (battery hassles, poor d-pad, etc.) compared to the DS3.
A - Motion Joy works, and works extremely well. That much some of us have made clear to counter some of the crazy claims made here.
B - Asking people to use the 360 controller without admitting that the d-pad is beyond horrible is like recommending a car and not telling them it has no power steering. Sure it technically works, but at least they should know what kind of gimped experience they are in for.
So don't fuss at me. If you want this DS3 thread not include comments on the X360 pad, then tell those who recommend the X360 pad not to bring it up or post up full disclosure about its shortcomings (battery hassles, poor d-pad, etc.) compared to the DS3.
zinfamous
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you must be the beleaguered developer of MIJ, as you seem to be the only user that thinks it isn't complete garbage.
also, what is DS3? do you mean PS3?
pw38
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Look, I've used a wired 360 pad for the past few years and have never had any issues with the dpad. Not one. Ever. The DS3 has the superior dpad but man you're making waaaaaay too big a deal over it. Also, there really aren't many battery issues that I'm aware of. I used to use the wireless pad when I had my 360 and never had issues. I charged it regularly, didn't try to play from 100 feet away, and kept it clean. Same with my DS3 for my PS3.
This obviously comes down to personal taste and you obviously like the DS3 but jeez we get it, no need to bring it up in every post you make. Also, have you tried the Dpad on the new 360 controller? It's much improved over the older one from a responsiveness standpoint and this is coming from someone who's never had an issue with the original version.
Dualshock 3.
I use Motioninjoy with my laptop. Never had a problem. My bluetooth mouse still works fine and my phone connects just like it always did. There is a way to unload and load the bluetooth driver right in the software.
arredondo
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The only thing the new 360 pad did was to allow you to optionally raise it up a tad so your thumb won't be damaged when playing hard core fighters because of the stupid plastic rim they decided to put around it. The d-pad itself remains incredibly stiff, making diagonals in particular a chore to execute in a pinch.
If you don't want the truth laid out about the X360 controller, people need to stop bringing it up to begin with in a DS3 thread and there'd be nothing to discuss.
If you don't want the truth laid out about the X360 controller, people need to stop bringing it up to begin with in a DS3 thread and there'd be nothing to discuss.
op asked about about how good/easy it is to get DS3 working like the DS2, we tell him how bad the software is and how he can use an alternative. You come in shouting about how the xbox360 controller is crap because of the dpad. Irrelevant as that's not the topic of discussion until you brought it in.
We get it. You don't like the xbox controller. Don't need to remind us every post.
So lets focus your attention on the software MIJ, and you've already stated it works for you. Great. Now how have you gotten yours to work offline with rumble and analog enabled? What version are you using? Because last time I checked (mind you this is like 3-4 months ago) they didn't have a release that had rumble and analog working while offline. "working extremely well" is not something I'd ever use to describe MIJ, as even when it was working for me it required two things:
1) internet connection
2) need to open up the MIJ tool (forgot the name) twice. Once to enable the driver and a second time to enable analog.
So this is what I got after using the instructions from the installer. You got a better set of instructions and how to use it other than the holier-than-thou attitude of "it just works"? Post your resources and guides so you can help others.
I've posted stuff from the actual MIJ forums about people having problems, so its obviously not just me.
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