Dear Brett Favre:

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Doboji
For the record... Favre is still an amazing QB. With the right team he is STILL capable of leading a team to the Superbowl...

Think for a second about all the teams that would be better off with Favre than they are with their current QB. Lets compile a list shall we?

Houston - Young QB, still has a chance to develop, get better, or even replaced.
San Francisco - Young, has shown drastic improvement over the last year, has a chance to become really good
Tampa Bay - They've been shuffling around a couple guys all year
Oakland - Same as above
Minnesota - Same as above
Detroit - Matt Millen - 'nuff said
Chicago - See #1/#2, he was even threatened to be replaced
Miami - See #3/4/5
Jacksonville - See above
Washington - *yawn* see above
Cleveland - SA
Buffalo - Losman has played as well as Favre this year
NY (Jets) - Jets are 8-6 you retard

Should all the current QBs from those teams hang up the cleats? Cuz if Favre should... so should they...

None of the QBs listed above are old, washed up, and have played the entire season with the golden ticket to stay as long as they're breathing. Favre has better job security than US Supreme Court justices. Most of the teams above have shuffled around their QBs, and/or have a good prospect that can be developed.

Horsedookie... Favre would be better for at least 2-3 years than any of the players on any of those rosters... Sure if you want to plan for 10 years from now... then Favre may not be your guy... but for the next 2-3 years Favre is still a major asset to most teams in the league.

-Max

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Doboji
For the record... Favre is still an amazing QB. With the right team he is STILL capable of leading a team to the Superbowl...

Think for a second about all the teams that would be better off with Favre than they are with their current QB. Lets compile a list shall we?

Houston - Young QB, still has a chance to develop, get better, or even replaced.
San Francisco - Young, has shown drastic improvement over the last year, has a chance to become really good
Tampa Bay - They've been shuffling around a couple guys all year
Oakland - Same as above
Minnesota - Same as above
Detroit - Matt Millen - 'nuff said
Chicago - See #1/#2, he was even threatened to be replaced
Miami - See #3/4/5
Jacksonville - See above
Washington - *yawn* see above
Cleveland - SA
Buffalo - Losman has played as well as Favre this year
NY (Jets) - Jets are 8-6 you retard

Should all the current QBs from those teams hang up the cleats? Cuz if Favre should... so should they...

None of the QBs listed above are old, washed up, and have played the entire season with the golden ticket to stay as long as they're breathing. Favre has better job security than US Supreme Court justices. Most of the teams above have shuffled around their QBs, and/or have a good prospect that can be developed.

Horsedookie... Favre would be better for at least 2-3 years than any of the players on any of those rosters... Sure if you want to plan for 10 years from now... then Favre may not be your guy... but for the next 2-3 years Favre is still a major asset to most teams in the league.

-Max

(while he was in Philly) Didn't T.O. say that they would have won the Super Bowl if they had Favre as QB instead of McNabb?

 

[cubby1223]

You people are complete idiots.

Packers management and coaching staff believe's Brett Favre is the better QB to help the team win and develop. And that is Favre's fault how?

He should play as long as he wants to, and as long as a team is still willing to let him play. Period. End of discussion. And the same goes for every other player in the league.

If you feel Favre should not be the QB, then you blame the Packers management and coaching staff. None of this "you're old and worthless, get out of the league because I say so" crap.

And especially when it comes from people in California? Maryland? New Mexico? Did everyone on ATOT grow up in Wisconsin & move outwords?

And I don't believe for one second that he's only playing to break records. He's playing because he wants to be out there competing. Favre is already a god in Wisconsin. He doesn't need any more numbers to validate his greatness. The ring he wears is proof enough he achieved more than Marino.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: TrueEevil
I think he should stick around another year. His team is not very good, and he gives them the best chance to win. Sure you have Rodgers, but he got a chance..and broke his foot :disgust:

That's because he knows when Favre is still breathing he's not going to get any sort of legitimate chance at playing. He doesn't take that many snaps in practice, and has had absolutely no chance at playing since he joined the Packers. We'll never know though how he'll do.

He also has motivation with all those records lined up. Call it selfish if you want, but I don't know anyone who would just quit if your that close to the history books.

That is the definition if selfish. Putting yourself in front of the development and future of your team. Making them wait and wait for your decision. Personal records don't, and shouldn't mean anything if it means you're holding your team back.

Another selfish quarterback is good ole boy Peyton Manning. When was it; a couple of years ago when he got that nice fat contract.. then the following year, the Colts just couldn't manage to keep E. James.. Well, a team player would have restructured their contract, so they would have been able to keep James..
Oh.. but hell no.. $100'something million isn't a fvckin'nough is it Peyton..

The Colts would have eventually won a Super Bowl, if they could have kept the big 3 intact.

a) Again, wtf does Peyton Manning come from? No one has mentioned him in this thread to compare him to Brett.
b) Peyton had nothing to do with James leaving. A player is not involved in management at all.
c) If you want to go there though, Favre IS one of the highest paid QBs in the NFL, and since he's signed until the next century, it is hard to put talent around him. If he got a contract reduction, or if he retired altogether, maybe the Packers could get some real guys around him. He is also the one that was extremely critical of Javon Walker holding out for a new, well-deserved contract. Who is he to criticize someone for wanting money? That was not only selfish, but hypocritical as well.

Players are involved in management. Tom Brady restructured his contract in 2003 from $3.125 million down to the $450,000 (league minimum at the time btw). This created a surplus of being a little over $2 million under the salary cap (2003).

As quoted, "You do whatever it takes to help the team get better players and help the team win," Brady said Thursday. "Ultimately, the only thing I care about is winning."

I agree with your part (C) .. I posted something similiar on the first page, but maybe not as harsh

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I agree. His actions before the season started were selfish. He kept the team in limbo by not announching if he was going to play or not really fvcking close to training camp. By doing that the Packers gameplan on any free agency potential all revolved around his selfish ass. The Packers could have been aggressive in free agency, but by being in limbo, they couldn't plan accordingly... in addition to draft strategy.. His selfishness changes the whole game plan and strategy for the Packers.

But he doesn't seem to give a $hit. He thinks because he is "Brett Favre" he can pulll those type of stunts.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
You people are complete idiots.

Packers management and coaching staff believe's Brett Favre is the better QB to help the team win and develop. And that is Favre's fault how?

He should play as long as he wants to, and as long as a team is still willing to let him play. Period. End of discussion. And the same goes for every other player in the league.

If you feel Favre should not be the QB, then you blame the Packers management and coaching staff. None of this "you're old and worthless, get out of the league because I say so" crap.

And especially when it comes from people in California? Maryland? New Mexico? Did everyone on ATOT grow up in Wisconsin & move outwords?

And I don't believe for one second that he's only playing to break records. He's playing because he wants to be out there competing. Favre is already a god in Wisconsin. He doesn't need any more numbers to validate his greatness. The ring he wears is proof enough he achieved more than Marino.

Sorry, no one should be allowed to talk about sports teams whose area they didn't grow up in.

On that note, Raiders suck.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Players are involved in management. Tom Brady restructured his contract in 2003 from $3.125 million down to the $450,000 (league minimum at the time btw). This created a surplus of being a little over $2 million under the salary cap (2003).

As quoted, "You do whatever it takes to help the team get better players and help the team win," Brady said Thursday. "Ultimately, the only thing I care about is winning."

Because you know for a definate fact that the Colts lost the super-bowl because of money problems.

Look, fact is, in 2006 the Colts were 29th in the league in payroll. Which means Colts ownership is not spending all they should be. So why the hell would Payton Manning ever restructure his contract?

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: cubby1223
You people are complete idiots.

Packers management and coaching staff believe's Brett Favre is the better QB to help the team win and develop. And that is Favre's fault how?

He should play as long as he wants to, and as long as a team is still willing to let him play. Period. End of discussion. And the same goes for every other player in the league.

If you feel Favre should not be the QB, then you blame the Packers management and coaching staff. None of this "you're old and worthless, get out of the league because I say so" crap.

And especially when it comes from people in California? Maryland? New Mexico? Did everyone on ATOT grow up in Wisconsin & move outwords?

And I don't believe for one second that he's only playing to break records. He's playing because he wants to be out there competing. Favre is already a god in Wisconsin. He doesn't need any more numbers to validate his greatness. The ring he wears is proof enough he achieved more than Marino.

Sorry, no one should be allowed to talk about sports teams whose area they didn't grow up in.

On that note, Raiders suck.

I think Detroit sucks worse though

 

[waggy]

Farve didnt do to bad last night. If his team would have done better it would have been a blow out. to many droped passes or blown routes. etc.

 

[MaxDepth]

RoboFavre and ZombieReagan in 2008!
:thumbsup:

 

[classy]

One more year. He has really had some very poor talent on offense to work with.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: cubby1223
You people are complete idiots.

Packers management and coaching staff believe's Brett Favre is the better QB to help the team win and develop. And that is Favre's fault how?

He should play as long as he wants to, and as long as a team is still willing to let him play. Period. End of discussion. And the same goes for every other player in the league.

If you feel Favre should not be the QB, then you blame the Packers management and coaching staff. None of this "you're old and worthless, get out of the league because I say so" crap.

And especially when it comes from people in California? Maryland? New Mexico? Did everyone on ATOT grow up in Wisconsin & move outwords?

And I don't believe for one second that he's only playing to break records. He's playing because he wants to be out there competing. Favre is already a god in Wisconsin. He doesn't need any more numbers to validate his greatness. The ring he wears is proof enough he achieved more than Marino.

Sorry, no one should be allowed to talk about sports teams whose area they didn't grow up in.

On that note, Raiders suck.

It's one thing to just say you think he should retire & be replaced - and it's another thing to go into such a harsh criticism like your first post. Across the country you'd only see what's presented by ESPN, or the FOX halftime shows. There is a lot more that goes on with a team that is not covered in national media, stuff that you would only be aware of if you received the local Wisconsin media. Same goes for every other team out there.

I could sit here and talk about how much I think Randy Moss is a selfish player who doesn't even care to play the game anymore - he has said he hasn't given full effort this season. And I can continue saying he's old, washed up, ruining the team not allowing other players to develop. And so forth. But I don't know all that for a fact, maybe he does so much to aide the other players. You certainly don't think Favre just gets up Sunday morning to go through a few interceptions, and leave for home content that he's creeping up on Marino's records, do you? That he does nothing else to help the team?

 

[Syringer]

You'd be 100% dead-on in your assessment with Moss actually. His comments have hurt the Raiders this year, and his play has been even more detrimental for the money that he's making.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Where the f*ck has Michael Vick been brought up in this thread?

You should sign up for Sticking with the Topic 101 next quarter.

Since we are mentioning other players though, I'll go ahead and point out that the anti-thesis of Favre would be Jerome Bettis. Here's a guy whose abilities were wearing down, he wasn't the same player he once was, and could've retired as one of the greatest backs in the game. However he hadn't won a ring yet, and he was on a team that had a chance to win it all, and lo and behold they did.

I brought him up because everyone's talking about Brett Favre like he's old, useless, and should retire. But if you look up his stats, you'd see that even if his QB rating is declining, it's still well above that of other QBs who people seem to love.

 

[pontifex]

why is his name pronounced Farve when its spelled Favre? or is everyone just pronouncing it incorrectly?

 

[GasX]

5 more INTs and he has the all time record!