Dear Brett Favre:

[slpaulson]

Brett Favre isn't holding the Packers back.

I blame Ted Thompson, and many years of poor GM moves by Sherman.

 

[kinev]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I respect Farve.

I don't. :disgust:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0106/1306705.html

Originally posted by: bum

Do you think he throws those picks because he's lost his ability? No. He throws those picks because he doesn't have the team he used to. Brett would rather throw a 70 yard pass into quadruple coverage than give up and play to lose.

Nope

Before the sack that enabled Strahan to set the record, Green Bay Packers quarterback (and close friend) Brett Favre spoke briefly with him. On the next play, Favre dropped back as if to pass, then suddenly scrambled towards the side that Strahan was rushing from, abruptly diving onto the ground, allowing Strahan to fall on top of him for an easy sack. After the play, during the ensuing celebration, many of the Giants' defensive players patted Favre on the helmet. Many observers accused Favre of deliberately falling to ensure that Strahan would get the record.

Mike Freeman, New York Times columnist wrote: "Yes, Mr. Favre, Strahan deserves the record, but please, handing it to him the way you did, as if you were throwing change into a Salvation Army bucket, is the kind of mistake Favre may never live down."

The guy's a loser who tarnished the game by taking a dive. Real classy, there, Brett.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: cRazYdood
Brett Favre isn't holding the Packers back.

I blame Ted Thompson, and many years of poor GM moves by Sherman.

sure Brett alone isn't holding the team back but he's part of it. The Packers have no idea if Rodgers is their future or not. If he's not they can cut ties with him now and draft someone else. It doesn't matter how well Rodgers or any other does in training camp and on the practice field. As long as brett is still there, unless he goes down via injury, Rodgers will still sit on the bench holding a clip board. Imagine the headlines that we'll see if McCarthy tells Favre he's being benched.

The thing I hate most about favre though is how the media makes like he's some great individual. Boohoo, his wife has cancer, his childhood home was lost in katrina, father dies, etc. People everywhere has to deal with those things. But they make as if only he has to deal with it.

anyhow that's why this I love this espn article

 

[Syringer]

Favre needs to come back to set the record for most INTS thrown in history. He's 5 behind Blanda!

He's thrown 82 in the last four seasons :Q

 

[imported_bum]

Originally posted by: kinev

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I respect Farve.

I don't. :disgust:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0106/1306705.html

Originally posted by: bum

Do you think he throws those picks because he's lost his ability? No. He throws those picks because he doesn't have the team he used to. Brett would rather throw a 70 yard pass into quadruple coverage than give up and play to lose.

Nope

Before the sack that enabled Strahan to set the record, Green Bay Packers quarterback (and close friend) Brett Favre spoke briefly with him. On the next play, Favre dropped back as if to pass, then suddenly scrambled towards the side that Strahan was rushing from, abruptly diving onto the ground, allowing Strahan to fall on top of him for an easy sack. After the play, during the ensuing celebration, many of the Giants' defensive players patted Favre on the helmet. Many observers accused Favre of deliberately falling to ensure that Strahan would get the record.

Mike Freeman, New York Times columnist wrote: "Yes, Mr. Favre, Strahan deserves the record, but please, handing it to him the way you did, as if you were throwing change into a Salvation Army bucket, is the kind of mistake Favre may never live down."

The guy's a loser who tarnished the game by taking a dive. Real classy, there, Brett.

Actually, if you've ever watched more than one Favre game, you know the statement I made is true. In the hundreds of games Brett has started, you better come up with more than one example (from a unique situation) to back up such a stupid claim.

 

[kinev]

Originally posted by: bum

Originally posted by: kinev

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I respect Farve.

I don't. :disgust:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0106/1306705.html

Originally posted by: bum

Do you think he throws those picks because he's lost his ability? No. He throws those picks because he doesn't have the team he used to. Brett would rather throw a 70 yard pass into quadruple coverage than give up and play to lose.

Nope

Before the sack that enabled Strahan to set the record, Green Bay Packers quarterback (and close friend) Brett Favre spoke briefly with him. On the next play, Favre dropped back as if to pass, then suddenly scrambled towards the side that Strahan was rushing from, abruptly diving onto the ground, allowing Strahan to fall on top of him for an easy sack. After the play, during the ensuing celebration, many of the Giants' defensive players patted Favre on the helmet. Many observers accused Favre of deliberately falling to ensure that Strahan would get the record.

Mike Freeman, New York Times columnist wrote: "Yes, Mr. Favre, Strahan deserves the record, but please, handing it to him the way you did, as if you were throwing change into a Salvation Army bucket, is the kind of mistake Favre may never live down."

The guy's a loser who tarnished the game by taking a dive. Real classy, there, Brett.

Actually, if you've ever watched more than one Favre game, you know the statement I made is true. In the hundreds of games Brett has started, you better come up with more than one example (from a unique situation) to back up such a stupid claim.

I used to like him, too. But taking a dive to give a buddy a record is reprehensible. There isn't even debate about it. He did it! It was trashy and bad for football and I HATE how everybody has already forgotten.

And, yes, taking a dive is giving up (in a slimeball way).

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: kinev

Originally posted by: bum

Originally posted by: kinev

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I respect Farve.

I don't. :disgust:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0106/1306705.html

Originally posted by: bum

Do you think he throws those picks because he's lost his ability? No. He throws those picks because he doesn't have the team he used to. Brett would rather throw a 70 yard pass into quadruple coverage than give up and play to lose.

Nope

Before the sack that enabled Strahan to set the record, Green Bay Packers quarterback (and close friend) Brett Favre spoke briefly with him. On the next play, Favre dropped back as if to pass, then suddenly scrambled towards the side that Strahan was rushing from, abruptly diving onto the ground, allowing Strahan to fall on top of him for an easy sack. After the play, during the ensuing celebration, many of the Giants' defensive players patted Favre on the helmet. Many observers accused Favre of deliberately falling to ensure that Strahan would get the record.

Mike Freeman, New York Times columnist wrote: "Yes, Mr. Favre, Strahan deserves the record, but please, handing it to him the way you did, as if you were throwing change into a Salvation Army bucket, is the kind of mistake Favre may never live down."

The guy's a loser who tarnished the game by taking a dive. Real classy, there, Brett.

Actually, if you've ever watched more than one Favre game, you know the statement I made is true. In the hundreds of games Brett has started, you better come up with more than one example (from a unique situation) to back up such a stupid claim.

I used to like him, too. But taking a dive to give a buddy a record is reprehensible. There isn't even debate about it. He did it! It was trashy and bad for football and I HATE how everybody has already forgotten.

And, yes, taking a dive is giving up (in a slimeball way).

wow, some people just simply amaze me.

 

[arrfep]

Originally posted by: waggy
fave is stuck with a crappy team. but he is still a great player.

I would love to see him on the bears (yeah like that would happen). i think he would have a great year in chicago.

Wow, I thought I was the only Bears fan who thought that way. I know pretty much all Chicago fans would like to see Farve go out miserably, but I think it would be excellent if they beat us on NYE, and we got to meet again in the playoffs. If he retires this year, he deserves to go out in a great fight.

But otherwise, yeah I think it would be pretty crazy to see him QBing for us.

 

[fubar569]

i don't care who you are or whatr you do...dog the man all you want...but he's got a ring and you dont...he's set records you never will...he goes out and busts his ass every week so you can sit on your asses and rag on him some more...talk about classy...why don't you go through a week of practices and get your ass hammered by some 275+LB lineman/linebackers/whatever play in and play out and see how well you come out of it...the mere fact he's still able to play is testament to the mans ability...

put him on a team with ANY SORT OF TALENT and i bet he has another ring. why? because he's that damn good. its not his fault he doesnt have time to throw the ball cause the line blows horse cock...its not his fault his recievers couldnt catch a beachball if it hit them in the face...and its not like he can control the lack of a running attack either...bottom line is the team BLOWS ASS!!

i hope he comes back and breaks ALL of marinos records. why? because most of you think he should've been gone a long time ago...i think it'd be frickin hilarious if he comes back and wipes the floor with every other QB in the league - there are maybe 3 or 4 QB's between the 3 strings on 32 teams that i would even want on my squad...brett is one of them...

call me crazy, but he's still got it...give him protection and a couple targets and he'll show you what he can do...

 

[udonoogen]

i want to see aaron rodgers do well. he needs more time on the field, hopefully that'll be next year.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: udonoogen
i want to see aaron rodgers do well. he needs more time on the field, hopefully that'll be next year.

California REPRESENT! Hell yes I wanna see him play already.

 

[ntdz]

Actually, the Packers have a shot to make the playoffs if they beat the bears next week. The Bears might not care about the game and rest starters if they clinch home field...

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ntdz
Actually, the Packers have a shot to make the playoffs if they beat the bears next week. The Bears might not care about the game and rest starters if they clinch home field...

Home field is already clinched.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: TrueEevil
I think he should stick around another year. His team is not very good, and he gives them the best chance to win. Sure you have Rodgers, but he got a chance..and broke his foot :disgust:

That's because he knows when Favre is still breathing he's not going to get any sort of legitimate chance at playing. He doesn't take that many snaps in practice, and has had absolutely no chance at playing since he joined the Packers. We'll never know though how he'll do.

He also has motivation with all those records lined up. Call it selfish if you want, but I don't know anyone who would just quit if your that close to the history books.

That is the definition if selfish. Putting yourself in front of the development and future of your team. Making them wait and wait for your decision. Personal records don't, and shouldn't mean anything if it means you're holding your team back.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: kinev

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I respect Farve.

I don't. :disgust:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0106/1306705.html

Originally posted by: bum

Do you think he throws those picks because he's lost his ability? No. He throws those picks because he doesn't have the team he used to. Brett would rather throw a 70 yard pass into quadruple coverage than give up and play to lose.

Nope

Before the sack that enabled Strahan to set the record, Green Bay Packers quarterback (and close friend) Brett Favre spoke briefly with him. On the next play, Favre dropped back as if to pass, then suddenly scrambled towards the side that Strahan was rushing from, abruptly diving onto the ground, allowing Strahan to fall on top of him for an easy sack. After the play, during the ensuing celebration, many of the Giants' defensive players patted Favre on the helmet. Many observers accused Favre of deliberately falling to ensure that Strahan would get the record.

Mike Freeman, New York Times columnist wrote: "Yes, Mr. Favre, Strahan deserves the record, but please, handing it to him the way you did, as if you were throwing change into a Salvation Army bucket, is the kind of mistake Favre may never live down."

The guy's a loser who tarnished the game by taking a dive. Real classy, there, Brett.

From the same page:

"On December 2, 2006, Strahan announced that he is a homosexual and is having relations with teammate Brandon Jacobs. He admits he uses his gap teeth to suck Brandon Jacobs lil penis due to the effect of steroids."

Yeah ummm

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
To be honest, I really don't think that Favre has been the main thing holding back the Packers this year.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: TrueEevil
I think he should stick around another year. His team is not very good, and he gives them the best chance to win. Sure you have Rodgers, but he got a chance..and broke his foot :disgust:

That's because he knows when Favre is still breathing he's not going to get any sort of legitimate chance at playing. He doesn't take that many snaps in practice, and has had absolutely no chance at playing since he joined the Packers. We'll never know though how he'll do.

He also has motivation with all those records lined up. Call it selfish if you want, but I don't know anyone who would just quit if your that close to the history books.

That is the definition if selfish. Putting yourself in front of the development and future of your team. Making them wait and wait for your decision. Personal records don't, and shouldn't mean anything if it means you're holding your team back.

Another selfish quarterback is good ole boy Peyton Manning. When was it; a couple of years ago when he got that nice fat contract.. then the following year, the Colts just couldn't manage to keep E. James.. Well, a team player would have restructured their contract, so they would have been able to keep James..
Oh.. but hell no.. $100'something million isn't a fvckin'nough is it Peyton..

The Colts would have eventually won a Super Bowl, if they could have kept the big 3 intact.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Personal Opinion to Follow:

Favre is still amazing. Packers suck donkey dick.

I agree


Ausm

 

[GoPackGo]

Last night was his first 4th Quarter Comeback victory in quite a while.

He is very emotional and takes his frustrations out on the field, thats why you occassionaly see the stupid INT.

First INT - WideOuts fault.
Second INT - Favres fault.

There was no running game last night. Bretts fault???

So he was forced to throw the ball over 50 times.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: cRazYdood
Brett Favre isn't holding the Packers back.

I blame Ted Thompson, and many years of poor GM moves by Sherman.

sure Brett alone isn't holding the team back but he's part of it. The Packers have no idea if Rodgers is their future or not. If he's not they can cut ties with him now and draft someone else. It doesn't matter how well Rodgers or any other does in training camp and on the practice field. As long as brett is still there, unless he goes down via injury, Rodgers will still sit on the bench holding a clip board. Imagine the headlines that we'll see if McCarthy tells Favre he's being benched.

The thing I hate most about favre though is how the media makes like he's some great individual. Boohoo, his wife has cancer, his childhood home was lost in katrina, father dies, etc. People everywhere has to deal with those things. But they make as if only he has to deal with it.

anyhow that's why this I love this espn article

That's how QBs used to be groomed. You didn't draft a guy to start him right away. He was drafted and shown the ropes. Rodgers couldn't have a better teacher than Favre.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm a Packer fan, I still enjoy watching Favre play. I'd like to see him play again next year. The Packers this year aren't a very good team, I don't think anyone gave them a chance to do much at all this season, and here they have a chance to go .500 this year. Not bad for a very young team with a new coach. Who knows, with a little luck and a win next week thanks in part to the mediocrity that is the NFC they could even get a wild card.

 

[Doboji]

For the record... Favre is still an amazing QB. With the right team he is STILL capable of leading a team to the Superbowl...

Think for a second about all the teams that would be better off with Favre than they are with their current QB. Lets compile a list shall we?

Houston
San Francisco
Tampa Bay
Oakland
Minnesota
Detroit
Chicago
Miami
Jacksonville
Washington
Cleveland
Buffalo
NY (Jets)

Should all the current QBs from those teams hang up the cleats? Cuz if Favre should... so should they...

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: TrueEevil
I think he should stick around another year. His team is not very good, and he gives them the best chance to win. Sure you have Rodgers, but he got a chance..and broke his foot :disgust:

That's because he knows when Favre is still breathing he's not going to get any sort of legitimate chance at playing. He doesn't take that many snaps in practice, and has had absolutely no chance at playing since he joined the Packers. We'll never know though how he'll do.

He also has motivation with all those records lined up. Call it selfish if you want, but I don't know anyone who would just quit if your that close to the history books.

That is the definition if selfish. Putting yourself in front of the development and future of your team. Making them wait and wait for your decision. Personal records don't, and shouldn't mean anything if it means you're holding your team back.

Another selfish quarterback is good ole boy Peyton Manning. When was it; a couple of years ago when he got that nice fat contract.. then the following year, the Colts just couldn't manage to keep E. James.. Well, a team player would have restructured their contract, so they would have been able to keep James..
Oh.. but hell no.. $100'something million isn't a fvckin'nough is it Peyton..

The Colts would have eventually won a Super Bowl, if they could have kept the big 3 intact.

a) Again, wtf does Peyton Manning come from? No one has mentioned him in this thread to compare him to Brett.
b) Peyton had nothing to do with James leaving. A player is not involved in management at all.
c) If you want to go there though, Favre IS one of the highest paid QBs in the NFL, and since he's signed until the next century, it is hard to put talent around him. If he got a contract reduction, or if he retired altogether, maybe the Packers could get some real guys around him. He is also the one that was extremely critical of Javon Walker holding out for a new, well-deserved contract. Who is he to criticize someone for wanting money? That was not only selfish, but hypocritical as well.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: waggy
fave is stuck with a crappy team. but he is still a great player.

I would love to see him on the bears (yeah like that would happen). i think he would have a great year in chicago.

Chicago fans would attack him on sight and eat his flesh. I don't think Farve would EVER be welcome in Chicago just because he helped destroy the bears in the 90s.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Doboji
For the record... Favre is still an amazing QB. With the right team he is STILL capable of leading a team to the Superbowl...

Think for a second about all the teams that would be better off with Favre than they are with their current QB. Lets compile a list shall we?

Houston - Young QB, still has a chance to develop, get better, or even replaced.
San Francisco - Young, has shown drastic improvement over the last year, has a chance to become really good
Tampa Bay - They've been shuffling around a couple guys all year
Oakland - Same as above
Minnesota - Same as above
Detroit - Matt Millen - 'nuff said
Chicago - See #1/#2, he was even threatened to be replaced
Miami - See #3/4/5
Jacksonville - See above
Washington - *yawn* see above
Cleveland - SA
Buffalo - Losman has played as well as Favre this year
NY (Jets) - Jets are 8-6 you retard

Should all the current QBs from those teams hang up the cleats? Cuz if Favre should... so should they...

None of the QBs listed above are old, washed up, and have played the entire season with the golden ticket to stay as long as they're breathing. Favre has better job security than US Supreme Court justices. Most of the teams above have shuffled around their QBs, and/or have a good prospect that can be developed.