Dean lies about his Brother

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Asked by The Quad-City Times, which is based in Davenport, Iowa, to complete the sentence "My closest living relative in the armed services is," Dr. Dean wrote in August, "My brother is a POW/MIA in Laos, but is almost certainly dead."

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Seven other candidates responded to question about the armed services. Mr. Kerry said, "They're all retired now," while Senator Bob Graham of Florida, who has since dropped out, cited his brother, Bill, who was in the Air Force in World War II. Senator John Edwards of North Carolina mentioned his father-in-law, a retired Navy pilot, and Senator Joseph I. Lieberman named his nephew, Adam Miller.
 

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"The brother, 23-year-old Charles Dean, whose apparent remains were recovered by a military search team last month in Laos, was classified as missing in action, along with other civilians captured or killed in the area during the Vietnam War."

As a matter of curiosity, I've got to wonder how a civilian can be classified as "missing in action." I can see a plain old "missing" classification, but "missing in action." I'd be curious about who the other civilians were who were "missing in action." Thirty years ago, Southeast Asia in general and Laos, Cambodia, and Viet Nam weren't fashionable tourist spots -- although thousands of Americans did go there.
 
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..clearly a graduate from the "Bill Clinton School of Politics."

The way I read the question was that they wanted to know if I knew anything about the armed services from a personal level," he said. "I don't think it was inaccurate or misleading if anybody knew what the history was, and I assumed that most people knew what the history was

Oh, did you mean is currently in the armed forces, or had planned to join the armed services, or if he was in the armed forces at the time of his capture?
 

alchemize

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A more appropriate answer might have been:

"I have no relative, living or deceased or unknown, in the armed forces."

 

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Yes, I can see how unclear and easily misinterpreted the question could be:

My closest living relative in the armed services is

Here is my answer: "None, all have since retired. My father was in the air force, my grandfather in the Navy, my father in law the marines".

Not "well I was in the cub scouts. And my uncle once dressed up as a dead soldier in a peace march".
 

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If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...
 

Red Dawn

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Wow like this matters to anyone who is not petty little bitch! I'd think that the Republican attack dogs would have plenty to go after regarding Dean without resorting to this nonsense. Obviously I thought wrong!
 

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Yeah, something about he might have been in the CIA and his body was found with an Australian "civilain's" body? Now where did I see that....
 

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Maybe bush will out another CIA agent and coorborate the Deans' family suspisions about thier lost son?

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Dean apologists...why should I bother educating myself on the "mights" and "could have beens", when it was Dean himself that was trying to confuse and divert us by his blatant lie?

We might never know the truth? More backpedaling on the lie.

There is no evidence that he was in the armed services, therefore Dean lied. ;)

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Dean apologists...why should I bother educating myself on the "mights" and "could have beens", when it was Dean himself that was trying to confuse and divert us by his blatant lie?
Confused easily are you?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Dean apologists...why should I bother educating myself on the "mights" and "could have beens", when it was Dean himself that was trying to confuse and divert us by his blatant lie?
Confused easily are you?

Yet Another Dean Apologist...refusing to acknowledge the lie.

Question: My closest living relative in the armed services is...

Answer: My brother is a POW/MIA in Laos, but is almost certainly dead

Not could have been, not might have been, not possibly, IS. But as Galt said...school of clinton "is'isms"




 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Dean apologists...why should I bother educating myself on the "mights" and "could have beens", when it was Dean himself that was trying to confuse and divert us by his blatant lie?
Confused easily are you?

Yet Another Dean Apologist...refusing to acknowledge the lie.

Question: My closest living relative in the armed services is...

Answer: My brother is a POW/MIA in Laos, but is almost certainly dead

Not could have been, not might have been, not possibly, IS. But as Galt said...school of clinton "is'isms"
Yeah right, a Dean apologist
rolleye.gif
Like I said in an earlier post in this thread there are plenty of other things to go after Dean about without having to resort to this petty bullsh!t!.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Dean apologists...why should I bother educating myself on the "mights" and "could have beens", when it was Dean himself that was trying to confuse and divert us by his blatant lie?
Confused easily are you?

Yet Another Dean Apologist...refusing to acknowledge the lie.

Question: My closest living relative in the armed services is...

Answer: My brother is a POW/MIA in Laos, but is almost certainly dead

Not could have been, not might have been, not possibly, IS. But as Galt said...school of clinton "is'isms"
Yeah right, a Dean apologist
rolleye.gif
Like I said in an earlier post in this thread there are plenty of other things to go after Dean about without having to resort to this petty bullsh!t!.
So lies are petty? You don't care if your future commander in chief lies about military and non-military matters?

 

Corn

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This is supposed to be the guy that Moonie thinks has a functioning brain? Evidently Moonie's standards ain't all that high.

Red, before you start screaming "petty" at those who question the integrity of this man consider this: If he lies about such seemingly trivial matters, how the hell could we trust him regarding matters of significance?

Yes Democrats, unite for Dean!! His candidacy will be the best thing to happen to Republicans in a long time!
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
If any of you actually bothered to educate yourself on the subject, you'd read that Charles Dean might have been in the region for covert government or military purposes. Howard Dean stated that he doesn't believe this and thus rarely ever mentions it, but their father went to his grave thinking it, and their mother still believes it. Howard Dean goes on to say that he will probably never know the truth (I guess if he becomes President they'll clue him in).

But yes, Dean shouldn't have equated his missing civilian brother as a relative in the armed services. Call it a lie if you want. That lie didn't cost us hundreds of American lives and billions of taxpayer dollars...

Dean apologists...why should I bother educating myself on the "mights" and "could have beens", when it was Dean himself that was trying to confuse and divert us by his blatant lie?
Confused easily are you?

Yet Another Dean Apologist...refusing to acknowledge the lie.

Question: My closest living relative in the armed services is...

Answer: My brother is a POW/MIA in Laos, but is almost certainly dead

Not could have been, not might have been, not possibly, IS. But as Galt said...school of clinton "is'isms"
Yeah right, a Dean apologist
rolleye.gif
Like I said in an earlier post in this thread there are plenty of other things to go after Dean about without having to resort to this petty bullsh!t!.
So lies are petty? You don't care if your future commander in chief lies about military and non-military matters?
Sure it does, that's why I am so disgusted in Bush. Oh you mean Dean? Nah he won't win, he's way to liberal for the American Public.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corn
This is supposed to be the guy that Moonie thinks has a functioning brain? Evidently Moonie's standards ain't all that high.

Red, before you start screaming "petty" at those who question the integrity of this man consider this: If he lies about such seemingly trivial matters, how the hell could we trust him regarding matters of significance?
You can't afterall he's a Politician. Do you believe Bush all the time?

Wait, don't tell me that you guys are frightened that Dean might actually win! Hell I don't think he stands a chance. That's not because I think Bush is "Da Man" because I don't, I just think that Dean is to liberal. Again we have to pick from the Lessor of two Weasals for President and Bush at least has some experience. Of course I will not be voting for either (not that it matters as I am in MA and the electoral VGotes more than likely will go to Dean)
 

Red Dawn

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Lol, I can actually picture both Limbaugh and that hysterical little twat Sean Hannity blathering about this endlessly:)
 

Jhhnn

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It remains to be seen if Dean's brother was military or not, and the truth may never be known... lots of dead white boys in indochina from that era who were never claimed by the govt...

I am truly enjoying the desperation of Bush supporters, though. The election is 10.5 months away, and they're already running scared, jumping at shadows, making mountains out of molehills.

Apparently credibility will be a big issue in November, so given that Bush has none, better try to drag Dean down to the same level.... It's a tough job, but I'm sure that somebody will try it...
 

Vic

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yawn...

All politicians lie. Even His Highness GW Bush. You'd think you P&N fanatics would know that by now...
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wow like this matters to anyone who is not petty little bitch! I'd think that the Republican attack dogs would have plenty to go after regarding Dean without resorting to this nonsense. Obviously I thought wrong!
Well said. And a ditto to Vic's "Yawn" too.
 

alchemize

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Heh even though I didn't give 2 sh!ts about this, it was funny to see the Dean fanboys come out and do the same tactics they always acuse the "bushies" of ;)
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Heh even though I didn't give 2 sh!ts about this, it was funny to see the Dean fanboys come out and do the same tactics they always acuse the "bushies" of ;)

Examples?
 

Corn

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LOL, the hypocrisy of the YADA's is amazing. I can't wait to refer to this thread in the future. :D