Dead Trigger free on Android due to very high piracy rate

[Chiropteran]

I believe they can't detect a pirated version directly, but the app downloads a ton of extra data after it's been installed. So if the play store's saying they sold 10k this month (just a number I'm making up) but their server's showing 60k people downloaded the data needed for the game. It would be pretty obvious.

Not that obvious. If you buy an app on play store and have multiple android devices you can install it on all of them. If you wipe your device, you can install your purchased apps a second time. Now I'd agree a 1:6 ratio would hint that some piracy is probably taking place, but it doesn't mean the piracy is happening in that ratio.

 

[Red Storm]

The problem is Android owners get angry when you bring up buying apps. Where iOS owners have no problem buying a solid app. Android owners go as far as installing Adfree because they can't be bothered with seeing ad's on a FREE app. So not only do they refuse to buy apps, but damn you to any developer who puts ad's in to try and make a little money.

Does it also grind your gears when people use ad blockers in their browsers?

 

[QueBert]

Does it also grind your gears when people use ad blockers in their browsers?

Not exactly the same, I notice in the Android market most apps that have an ad supported version also have an ad free one that costs money. People who download an ad version of an app and install a blocker do grind my gears yes. If you don't like ad's stop being a cheap ass and buy the ad free version

 

[jpeyton]

Another reason why Android is awesome. As a consumer, I support this move.

 

[Anubis]

The problem is Android owners get angry when you bring up buying apps. Where iOS owners have no problem buying a solid app. Android owners go as far as installing Adfree because they can't be bothered with seeing ad's on a FREE app. So not only do they refuse to buy apps, but damn you to any developer who puts ad's in to try and make a little money.

some of us buy aps, i do

 

[ControlD]

some of us buy aps, i do

Agreed. Most of the Android owners I know purchase a fair number of apps actually. They do tend to be a bit more spoiled when it comes to free apps however (Angry Birds for example), but that is how the platform is. I buy plenty of apps for iOS but most of them come from the Cydia store 🙂

 

[Anubis]

lol i actually purchased angry birds because the in ap ads were so fing bad (covered important parts of the screen/played sound) and adfree didnt stop them

 

[Phynaz]

What the hell kind of logic is that? The pirating rate is so high, that you decide to get rid of the small amount of money you actually WERE getting? So now the pirates still get software for free, you have no money for your work, and you pissed off all the paying customers. With this line of thinking it's no wonder these dillweeds couldn't make any money.

They went to in-app advertising. The pay app didn't have it.

 

[Zaap]

Sounds like marketing ploy. I never even heard of this game til now. So now they get free publicity and exposure.

Bingo. Much ado about nothing.

Some game no one ever heard of that wasn't selling for shit, so now the virtually unknown dev cooks up a lame marketing scheme. No one really cares and those pretending to only want to rant about Android and how great they think their iPhones are- AS USUAL.

 

[Chiropteran]

They went to in-app advertising. The pay app didn't have it.

None of the articles said that. Where are you getting your info?

 

[basslover1]

The problem is Android owners get angry when you bring up buying apps. Where iOS owners have no problem buying a solid app. Android owners go as far as installing Adfree because they can't be bothered with seeing ad's on a FREE app. So not only do they refuse to buy apps, but damn you to any developer who puts ad's in to try and make a little money.

Please stop it. We get it, you think iPhone owners are more honest than Android users, but stop making it sound like every Android user is a pirate/lowlife. iDevices suffer from piracy as well, and you know this.

I buy apps all the time, especially the ad free version after I try out the lite version and realize "damn, this is pretty useful." And never once have I gotten angry at the idea of paying for an app, so I'm not really sure what your opinion is based off, just mere anecdotal evidence I suppose.

 

[pcslookout]

Installous, and lets not forget the Apple In-app purchase fiasco :hmm:

Also frequent app updates. One of the reasons I buy apps is to get them consistently.

This.

You don't get that anywhere else. New updates instantly all the time.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

quite honestly, after jailbreaking I'd rather pirate through iOS than Android.

On Android:

You have to find some site. Either do it on your phone or computer. If computer, you then connect a USB cable to copy over. If on phone you have to navigate on a tiny screen using a website that takes you to pathetic file sharing sites like depositefiles and wait 30 seconds and download. You have to worry about putting your apps in a folder, so I have an Appz folder.

On iOS, Installous does it all. It's the market/app store with categories, search, etc.

Sure JBing takes hoops to jump through, but overall jailbreaking is far easier than rooting. I've rooted 4 Android devices now. EVERY one had a different procedure. Motorola Milestone, Nexus S, SGS2, Incredible S. Each took me about an hour to accomplish. I jailbroke my iPod Touch 1G, iPod Touch 2G, and iPod Touch 4G all pretty quickly. The first I used PWnage Tool so the delay was creating the firmware and uploading, but the 4G was done with Greenp0ison which was literally a 1 click solution.

But once it's done... so easy.

 

[rise]

Please stop it. We get it, you think iPhone owners are more honest than Android users, but stop making it sound like every Android user is a pirate/lowlife. iDevices suffer from piracy as well, and you know this.

I buy apps all the time, especially the ad free version after I try out the lite version and realize "damn, this is pretty useful." And never once have I gotten angry at the idea of paying for an app, so I'm not really sure what your opinion is based off, just mere anecdotal evidence I suppose.

Yep.

and it's best to just ignore him.

 

[vshah]

quite honestly, after jailbreaking I'd rather pirate through iOS than Android.

On Android:

You have to find some site. Either do it on your phone or computer. If computer, you then connect a USB cable to copy over. If on phone you have to navigate on a tiny screen using a website that takes you to pathetic file sharing sites like depositefiles and wait 30 seconds and download. You have to worry about putting your apps in a folder, so I have an Appz folder.

On iOS, Installous does it all. It's the market/app store with categories, search, etc.

Sure JBing takes hoops to jump through, but overall jailbreaking is far easier than rooting. I've rooted 4 Android devices now. EVERY one had a different procedure. Motorola Milestone, Nexus S, SGS2, Incredible S. Each took me about an hour to accomplish. I jailbroke my iPod Touch 1G, iPod Touch 2G, and iPod Touch 4G all pretty quickly. The first I used PWnage Tool so the delay was creating the firmware and uploading, but the 4G was done with Greenp0ison which was literally a 1 click solution.

But once it's done... so easy.

equivalents exist on android - aptoide or applanet. never tried them and I imagine they may be less polished than installous.


fwiw i've spent over $200 on android apps over the past few years.

 

[QueBert]

equivalents exist on android - aptoide or applanet. never tried them and I imagine they may be less polished than installous.


fwiw i've spent over $200 on android apps over the past few years.

Wait an Android app that's less polished than the iOS equivalent? surely you jest 😀

Yep.

and it's best to just ignore him.

Will you also ignore the developers here who are mirroring what I'm saying? And saying they did this for publicity's nothing but an assumption. Mind you they could have made the iOS version free, but they didn't. And they only complained about the Android version.

 

[Sind]

quite honestly, after jailbreaking I'd rather pirate through iOS than Android.

On Android:

You have to find some site. Either do it on your phone or computer. If computer, you then connect a USB cable to copy over. If on phone you have to navigate on a tiny screen using a website that takes you to pathetic file sharing sites like depositefiles and wait 30 seconds and download. You have to worry about putting your apps in a folder, so I have an Appz folder.

On iOS, Installous does it all. It's the market/app store with categories, search, etc.

Sure JBing takes hoops to jump through, but overall jailbreaking is far easier than rooting. I've rooted 4 Android devices now. EVERY one had a different procedure. Motorola Milestone, Nexus S, SGS2, Incredible S. Each took me about an hour to accomplish. I jailbroke my iPod Touch 1G, iPod Touch 2G, and iPod Touch 4G all pretty quickly. The first I used PWnage Tool so the delay was creating the firmware and uploading, but the 4G was done with Greenp0ison which was literally a 1 click solution.

But once it's done... so easy.

An hour to root a nexus s? LOL stay with your iPhone.

 

[Phynaz]

None of the articles said that. Where are you getting your info?

Thought I saw it on Ars, maybe I'm wrong.

 

[styrafoam]

Thought I saw it on Ars, maybe I'm wrong.

Actually they went to in app purchases. Real money for in game money used to buy guns, ammo and whatnot. Cool that they had the groundwork in for the microtransactions in just as the piracy became unbearable.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

quite honestly, after jailbreaking I'd rather pirate through iOS than Android.

On Android:

You have to find some site. Either do it on your phone or computer. If computer, you then connect a USB cable to copy over. If on phone you have to navigate on a tiny screen using a website that takes you to pathetic file sharing sites like depositefiles and wait 30 seconds and download. You have to worry about putting your apps in a folder, so I have an Appz folder.

On iOS, Installous does it all. It's the market/app store with categories, search, etc.

Sure JBing takes hoops to jump through, but overall jailbreaking is far easier than rooting. I've rooted 4 Android devices now. EVERY one had a different procedure. Motorola Milestone, Nexus S, SGS2, Incredible S. Each took me about an hour to accomplish. I jailbroke my iPod Touch 1G, iPod Touch 2G, and iPod Touch 4G all pretty quickly. The first I used PWnage Tool so the delay was creating the firmware and uploading, but the 4G was done with Greenp0ison which was literally a 1 click solution.

But once it's done... so easy.

Well then, after reading this post, I need to conclude that you're terrible at technology.

 

[SKORPI0]

quite honestly, after jailbreaking I'd rather pirate through iOS than Android.

On Android:

You have to find some site. Either do it on your phone or computer. If computer, you then connect a USB cable to copy over.

On iOS, Installous does it all. It's the market/app store with categories, search, etc.

But once it's done... so easy.

Well then, after reading this post, I need to conclude that you're terrible at technology.

This.

No need for a USB cable, that's old tech. I transfer files through my wireless network using either Wifi File Transfer/Explorer. :hmm:

 

[MrX8503]

Bingo. Much ado about nothing.

Some game no one ever heard of that wasn't selling for shit, so now the virtually unknown dev cooks up a lame marketing scheme. No one really cares and those pretending to only want to rant about Android and how great they think their iPhones are- AS USUAL.

It's a popular game and dev team. Voted best graphics fps shooter to date and was top selling in the iOS app store.

 

[Zaap]

Meh. I don't even see it in the top 50 App store games.

And even for free it's at like #72 on the Play Store. So no one gives a shit about this game even for free- so I doubt it was selling like hotcakes either.

I see it's the same dev as ShadowGun. ShadowGun is still #14 on the Play Store, even though it's been out for how long now? Meanwhile I'm trying to find ShadowGun on the App Store... hmmm... not bothering to look below #100, but looks to me like it's pretty much dropped off the charts unless I missed it.

Okay, so I revise my first comment:

Not a terrible dev that had one hit on Android, that in fact seems to be a much bigger hit still than it is on iOS- releases another game that no one gives a flying rip about, that even giving it away it can't hold its own. So Dev makes a big whiney to-do about it, blaming piracy, even though they are capable of making a game people want to buy on Android (that piracy has magically not seemed to affect) this one just wasn't one of them.

They thought they could crap something out this time and the same people would flock to it. Doesn't seem to have worked out.

And once again, no one really cares about any of this, some people just want to whine about Android and beat their chests about how great they think their iPhones are, even as they prove their tech cluelessness to everyone.

 

[badb0y]

I like how we have to talk about iOS in this thread.

Fresh and original.

This is an Android problem so let's stop pointing fingers and talk about the OP.

 

[MrX8503]

It was top selling upon release. Android users can't separate from a dollar. That's more believable than a publicity stunt. Look around, Devs aren't making nearly as much on Android.