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gwynethgh

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Finally got WHS installed after a lot of pain. Not sure what the problem was but I couldn't seem to get my flash stick to boot. I may also had a a bad contact on the provided ram. I had pulled and reseated the ram several times. As for the flash stick I finally booted via a USB external hard drive. Success! I am currently running a E4500 with cool to the touch cpu heat sink.
I do need to play with my router (linksys wrt54g-tm) to get access via remote desk top so I can better get into the server and install some other apps and to verify I am running with the best device drivers. Well a fine learning experience so far.
 

FirNaTine

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I just got one.

I am contemplating WHS on this, and have read over the unattended install guidelines. My only concern is recovery.

What do I do if something goes wrong and I need to recover the system? Can this be done with a headless system.

I intend on having alternate backups of importnat material on the system, but I would rather not have to completely rebuild the system if I have a failure.

Thanks.

An E2200 2.2GHz dual core and 2GB DDR2 are on their way to help speed things up a bit.
 
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SunnyD

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I just got one.

I am contemplating WHS on this, and have read over the unattended install guidelines. My only concern is recovery.

What do I do if something goes wrong and I need to recover the system? Can this be done with a headless system.

I intend on having alternate backups of importnat material on the system, but I would rather not have to completely rebuild the system if I have a failure.

Thanks.

An E2200 2.2GHz dual core and 2GB DDR2 are on their way to help speed things up a bit.

The good thing about WHS is that if the system fails, you can pull the drives and put them into ANY Windows system to retrieve the data if needed. There are also methods of reinstalling WHS without destroying the data as well. I don't have the link handy, but I know it's there.
 

Alopez777

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I just got one.

I am contemplating WHS on this, and have read over the unattended install guidelines. My only concern is recovery.

What do I do if something goes wrong and I need to recover the system? Can this be done with a headless system.

I intend on having alternate backups of importnat material on the system, but I would rather not have to completely rebuild the system if I have a failure.

Thanks.

An E2200 2.2GHz dual core and 2GB DDR2 are on their way to help speed things up a bit.

Hi, may i ask were you purchased the E2200 2.2GHz cpu?

thanks,
al
 

FirNaTine

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I got the CPU shipped for $64 at SuperBiiz.

That is the retail, but they also have the OEM. I took the retail because the free shipping and etter packagin were worth it to me.

For those wondering I got the RAM for $38 shipped at Newegg.
 

FirNaTine

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The good thing about WHS is that if the system fails, you can pull the drives and put them into ANY Windows system to retrieve the data if needed. There are also methods of reinstalling WHS without destroying the data as well. I don't have the link handy, but I know it's there.

Awesome. I have a desktop with open SATA spots.

So at worst, I will have to move some drives around to get my data back.

I looked at the recovery, the only problem is server re-install on a headless unit can be tricky from my understanding.

Thanks.
 

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I am contemplating WHS on this, and have read over the unattended install guidelines. My only concern is recovery.

What do I do if something goes wrong and I need to recover the system? Can this be done with a headless system.

I shared that concern and thus did something fairly unusual.

I bought the flexi-PCIe x1->x16 adapter and used an el-cheap nVidia card as a head for setup and installation. The unusual bit is that I enabled the "RAID1" mode in BIOS and installed WHS onto a pair of mirrored 500GB SATA drives - which took a little doing. My data drives (2x 2TB) are NOT mirrored, relying instead on WHS's file-level-mirroring (aka Folder Duplication).

My theory is that if a data drive fails, WHS handles that reasonably well by most accounts - therefore I'm going to rely on it for that (thus adding a lot of drive flexibility). If a system drive fails, then I'm relying on the BIOS/Software "RAID" (mirroring) to cover me - so I can *HOPEFULLY* just shutdown, swap out the bad drive, and reboot. I'm keeping the flexi-adapter around just-in-case though!

Richard
 

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I do need to play with my router (linksys wrt54g-tm) to get access via remote desk top so I can better get into the server and install some other apps and to verify I am running with the best device drivers. Well a fine learning experience so far.

You shouldn't have to do anything to the router to get remote desktop working WITHIN your network. You might in order to get it working from OUTSIDE your firewall - but if/when you configure WHS "Remote Access" (meaning outside your firewall) then WHS will use UPnP to automatically configure the router if you allow that (on the router side).

Richard

P.S. Flash that router to DD-WRT and you'll never go back!
 

gwynethgh

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Thanx I will be upgrading to DD-WRT soon. Made a noob error while trying to remote desktop. All ok now. Left to do is add ram and 3 more hard drives then close it up.
Thanx All
 

TheWart

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hey all, I have been watching this thread off an on and I am thinking of taking the plunge.

Thing is, I only have a network that has a few macbooks on it, so is a WHS pointless/impossible to setup without a windows PC?
 

FirNaTine

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I shared that concern and thus did something fairly unusual.

I bought the flexi-PCIe x1->x16 adapter and used an el-cheap nVidia card as a head for setup and installation. The unusual bit is that I enabled the "RAID1" mode in BIOS and installed WHS onto a pair of mirrored 500GB SATA drives - which took a little doing. My data drives (2x 2TB) are NOT mirrored, relying instead on WHS's file-level-mirroring (aka Folder Duplication).

My theory is that if a data drive fails, WHS handles that reasonably well by most accounts - therefore I'm going to rely on it for that (thus adding a lot of drive flexibility). If a system drive fails, then I'm relying on the BIOS/Software "RAID" (mirroring) to cover me - so I can *HOPEFULLY* just shutdown, swap out the bad drive, and reboot. I'm keeping the flexi-adapter around just-in-case though!

Richard

Where did you find the flex adapter?
 

rsolomon

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Thing is, I only have a network that has a few macbooks on it, so is a WHS pointless/impossible to setup without a windows PC?

I don't see why - at worst you could use the OSX Remote Desktop client to administer the WHS. I'm not a Mac guy so I've not done any research on it, but I recall some folks talking about HP having a client app for Mac for their WHS boxes. Seems like someone would have worked around that by now :) The client app is only for accessing the WHS console and for backups, so it's not actually essential - the WHS box should look like a standard Windoze share to the Mac. I also believe the WGS wiki has instructions for getting the OSX backup agent to backup to a WHS box.

YMMV of course.

Richard
 

ertzoog

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the legend micro units are the scaleo marked ones, with a cd-r of the intel client and a dom thrown in.

I would have rather had the whs they apparently stripped off these units.

anybody have a good/cheap source for whs?
 

rsolomon

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I would have rather had the whs they apparently stripped off these units.
anybody have a good/cheap source for whs?

I don't think they "stripped" anything - no OEM would pay for extra licenses and ship them with surplus hardware like that. I imagine this was all Intel surplus capacity when the product was discontinued.

Regardless a legal WHS copy runs about $100 from Newegg. Save $10/copy if you order multiples. Some are on eBay but most of those are either a) more expensive than Newegg or b) already activated copies - which technically violate the MS licensing terms (even though most sellers insist the copy will online activate).

Richard
 

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the legend micro units are the scaleo marked ones, with a cd-r of the intel client and a dom thrown in.

I would have rather had the whs they apparently stripped off these units.

anybody have a good/cheap source for whs?
The SS4200-EHW doesn't come with WHS, never has - never will. It's hardware only. The SS4200-E comes with the EMC DOM and is thus fully functional (minus HDDs) out of the box.

If you want WHS, your best bet is either an OEM copy from Newegg or the like, or get yourself a TechNet subscription.
 

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Has anybody loaded WHS on an non upgraded version (i.e. original CPU and memory)?

Wonder how it stacks up performance wise. I upgraded mine to a 2220 and 2gig before loading WHS but have another one I'd like to load WHS on without the added expense.
 

SunnyD

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Has anybody loaded WHS on an non upgraded version (i.e. original CPU and memory)?

Wonder how it stacks up performance wise. I upgraded mine to a 2220 and 2gig before loading WHS but have another one I'd like to load WHS on without the added expense.
Does just a 1gb memory upgrade count? It ran fine on the Celeron 420 (at least before whatever blew up blew up in my unit).
 

Doomer

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Thanks. Just put a 1gig stick in my second unit. Is there a way to see if the EMC SW actually sees one gig? I've gone through all the screens and can't find squat.

Also, can I just remove the DOM, put the WHS USB drive in and go from there or do I need to remove the partitions from all the drives first?

Thanks
 

SunnyD

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Thanks. Just put a 1gig stick in my second unit. Is there a way to see if the EMC SW actually sees one gig? I've gone through all the screens and can't find squat.

Also, can I just remove the DOM, put the WHS USB drive in and go from there or do I need to remove the partitions from all the drives first?

Thanks

EMC does see 1gb, but not 2gb from what I recall. I know it saw the 1gb I put in.

Yes, you should be able to remove the DOM and start installing WHS from there... BUT...

ALL the data currently on the drives will be lost. WHS by default will repartition and format all of the drives on a fresh install.
 

Doomer

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How do you know that EMC sees 1gig? I understand that it WILL see 1gig but how can you tell that it actually does?

Thanks
 
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