*DEAD* Intel NAS Server w/ Intel Celeron 420 1.6GHz, DDR2 & eSATA - $135

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Anybody know where to get some cheap 2GB DDR2 for this box? I have an E4600 on the way.
This thread has been extremely helpful. Thanks guys. Box is working great.
 

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Great, solid orange light with no disks in now... this thing is a piece of crap. (yet still blinking power light with 4 drives in, drive lights are all solid btw)
 
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Great, solid orange light with no disks in now... this thing is a piece of crap. (yet still blinking power light with 4 drives in, drive lights are all solid btw)
Well I can tell you this. 4 Solid Drive lights is good. The blinking blue power light means that hardware monitoring is finding something "wrong" (probably that the disks are not mounted/formatted). Amber means something hardware isn't working (eg: no drives attached/reset). You need to get logged in to the unit and format the drives.
 

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Great, solid orange light with no disks in now... this thing is a piece of crap. (yet still blinking power light with 4 drives in, drive lights are all solid btw)

Did you make sure the drives were clean and did not have any boot partitions on them?

Make sure one of your drives isn't bad? Try one drive at a time. If two drives are installed, they must be installed in slot 1 and 2.

Did you do any hardware upgrades before getting it setup?
 

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No hardware upgrades as I can't login to do any firmware updates :( I did manage (once) to get into the software with no drives but again, cant update without drives. All 4 drives were wiped of any partitions with gparted. Should I format them with a partition or leave them unallocated? I appreciate the help, this shouldn't be this difficult! :)
 

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No hardware upgrades as I can't login to do any firmware updates :( I did manage (once) to get into the software with no drives but again, cant update without drives. All 4 drives were wiped of any partitions with gparted. Should I format them with a partition or leave them unallocated? I appreciate the help, this shouldn't be this difficult! :)

http://communities.intel.com/message/76793;jsessionid=228968397356E51C37C38124C684E50A.node5COMS

Did you try holding in the reset button and the power button at the same time?

Other post on Intel talk about doing low-level formatting before putting the drive in. I would certainly try LF one of the drives and try it.

I would certainly say it's an issue with the drives if you are able to load the DOM without drives installed.
 

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Had the same thought as you and tried the Seagate util to 0 the first 63 of all drives, no dice, so I'm trying a low level now... this thing is a wee bit picky. Anyone know if there is more current EMC firmware than the 1.0.8? I see Intel has a newer version but not sure they are the same. (File name structure is the same.. EMCNTG-1.1.11.32736.tgz)
 
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Had the same thought as you and tried the Seagate util to 0 the first 63 of all drives, no dice, so I'm trying a low level now... this thing is a wee bit picky. Anyone know if there is more current EMC firmware than the 1.0.8? I see Intel has a newer version but not sure they are the same. (File name structure is the same.. EMCNTG-1.1.11.32736.tgz)
That's the latest.
 

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The 1.1.11 is the latest and will keep the EMC code or the 1.1.11 is Intel code (and different)?
 

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What are the benefits of making this thing headless? Why does MS insist that WHS be configed this way? Doesn't make any sense. A video port of some kind would make it a lot easier to get these things up and going.
 

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got my NAS today... put 1gb RAM in, 4 WD 1TB RE3 Drives in (Used WD Utility to do the quick check and quick zero'ing), and I was up and running in no time. No issues at all. Can't believe how simple this was for me... maybe I got lucky (using EMC Lifeline Software)

edit: transfer rates have been great running RAID 5.... I would say my average is around 43MB/sec but have peeked at 55MB/sec plenty of times (writes). I will do some write tests after I finsih transferring over some stuff (~600GB stuff to transfer).
 

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What are the benefits of making this thing headless? Why does MS insist that WHS be configed this way? Doesn't make any sense. A video port of some kind would make it a lot easier to get these things up and going.

Because it's designed as an NAS OS - which is a headless storage unit. It's doing exactly what it was designed to do.
 

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Holy smokes, that's something else!

So, I don't want to sound like a dick, but has anyone else done any speed testing (w/ WHS or EMC OS, upgrade or stock)? That just seems like more than I would expect. I'm no expert, but I did a little checking on cnet, and they were very complimentary of NAS systems getting ~50MB/sec:
http://reviews.cnet.com/soho-server...x195/4505-3125_7-33655163-2.html?tag=txt;page


I ordered from Legend Micro when the price was $135 (I actually ordered it @ $149 a day before the sale, but I emailed them before they shipped and got refunded $14), so I'm not opposed to dropping some more $$ in the thing but I'm a cheapskate at heart...

I can get WHS from a Technet license, and I'm sure I have some extra DDR2 RAM laying around (although probably only 1GB sticks). However, I don't have an appropriate CPU so I'd have to buy one. If I knew for sure that I could get double throughput for +$60, I'll take it. But I'd prefer if I could get more confirmation first.

No offense LikeLinus I just don't like to rely on n=1 when I make decisions ;)
 

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I'll bite - what is a "sammy"?

Richard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon#LV_.28ULV.29.2C_.22Sossaman.22

On 14 March 2006, Intel released a dual-core processor codenamed Sossaman and branded as Xeon LV (low-voltage). Subsequently an ULV (ultra-low-voltage) version was released. The Sossaman was a low-/ultra-low-power and double-processor capable CPU (like AMD Quad FX), based on the "Yonah" processor, for ultradense non-consumer environment (i.e. targeted at the blade-server and embedded markets), and it was rated at a thermal design power (TDP) of 31 W (LV: 1.66 GHz, 2 GHz and 2.16 GHz) and 15 W (ULV: 1.66 GHz)[4]. As such, it supported most of the same features as earlier Xeons: Virtualization Technology, 667 MT/s front side bus, and dual-core processing, but it did not support 64-bit operations, so it could not run 64-bit-only server software, such as Microsoft Exchange Server 2007, and therefore it was limited to only 16 GB of memory. A planned successor, codenamed "Merom MP" was to be a drop-in upgrade to allow Sossaman-based servers to upgrade to 64-bit capability. However, this was abandoned in favour of low-voltage versions of the Woodcrest LV processor leaving the Sossaman at a dead-end with no planned upgrades.

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Holy smokes, that's something else!

So, I don't want to sound like a dick, but has anyone else done any speed testing (w/ WHS or EMC OS, upgrade or stock)? That just seems like more than I would expect. I'm no expert, but I did a little checking on cnet, and they were very complimentary of NAS systems getting ~50MB/sec:
http://reviews.cnet.com/soho-server...x195/4505-3125_7-33655163-2.html?tag=txt;page


I ordered from Legend Micro when the price was $135 (I actually ordered it @ $149 a day before the sale, but I emailed them before they shipped and got refunded $14), so I'm not opposed to dropping some more $$ in the thing but I'm a cheapskate at heart...

I can get WHS from a Technet license, and I'm sure I have some extra DDR2 RAM laying around (although probably only 1GB sticks). However, I don't have an appropriate CPU so I'd have to buy one. If I knew for sure that I could get double throughput for +$60, I'll take it. But I'd prefer if I could get more confirmation first.

No offense LikeLinus I just don't like to rely on n=1 when I make decisions ;)

I'm not offended? I wasn't trying to sell anyone on anything. I was posting my results post-upgrade. Someone had asked for them. I'm seeing around 55-60 during typical transfers (4GB ISO and DVDs). That's using the Windows file transfer window though, not the Intel NAS test.

Do note though the test you provided is an Intel Atom machine with 1GB ram. I'm running a dual core 2.4GHZ at 2GB. I was running only 30's when I had the 1.6 chip in. So that makes some sense.

Elganja is showing mid 40's with peaks of 55MBps with only upgrading to 1GB of RAM. Sounds like RAM alone will give you a decent boost.
 
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I've got mine up and running but hardware monitoring wont load. I loaded the add-on and no hardware devices show uninstalled. Any ideas?
 

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I've got mine up and running but hardware monitoring wont load. I loaded the add-on and no hardware devices show uninstalled. Any ideas?

Yeah, you need to load the SIO/GPIO drivers - make sure to follow the readme as it's a manual "have-disk" operation.

Richard
 

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just ordered my through amazon for $135, now just need to get some ram to start with, what ram does it take?
 
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