Dead for now! X800XL now $288 shipped! UPDATE 5/02

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dheffer

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Originally posted by: yekim

Don't forget future games - if you're going to drop $250+ on a new GFX card, make sure you get one that will do well on YOUR anticipated games. For me its RTCW-2 (based on Doom3 engine), so I'll be paying an extra $100 to get a 6800GT. If you keep the card for just 2 years, the 6800GT is only $0.14/day more expensive. Save those pennies!

Haha fair enough, but for me, the love is with half life 2. So pretty :)
 

user1234

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: QSnexus
Can anyone confirm what Connect3D's warranty would be on this retail part? Thanks.

Geez, dude....maybe go to their site and check for yourself?

http://www.connect3d-us.com/store/c3d_description.aspx

Confirms 2 year warranty. A guy on another forum said Monarch told him 3, but he may have been mistaken. 2 years is pretty decent.


funny that list says it has VIVO but clicking on the X800XL to get to the specific X800XL page says it only has TV-out. Would have been nice to get VIVO as well....
 

QSnexus

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Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: QSnexus
Can anyone confirm what Connect3D's warranty would be on this retail part? Thanks.

Geez, dude....maybe go to their site and check for yourself?

http://www.connect3d-us.com/store/c3d_description.aspx

Confirms 2 year warranty. A guy on another forum said Monarch told him 3, but he may have been mistaken. 2 years is pretty decent.


funny that list says it has VIVO but clicking on the X800XL to get to the specific X800XL page says it only has TV-out. Would have been nice to get VIVO as well....

Which is exactly why I was interested in seeing a confirmation on the warranty on this exact retail part.. I'll assume it's 2 years although from the link that Hero posted they only show the X800XL w/VIVO model.
 

dheffer

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Originally posted by: newmenu
I think Im just gonna drop $1,800 on two of the BFG 6800 Ultras with the 512mb Gddr3 ram

That's my favorite quote from that thread. He has a 17" LCD monitor, BTW. 1280x1024 of pure SLI madness, because, after all, he wants the best gaming solution available. =P
 

helyes

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I bit on this cause my GeForce 3 started having artifacts yesterday, and my 64 bit system has been sitting on the floor as a table.
 

Boztech

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The average price for an x800XL PCI-e on Monarch is $324.50. There are 4 to choose from 1 of which is OEM the rest are retail, made by Powercolor, Connect3d, and Asus (too expensive).

The average price for a 6800 GT PCI-e on Monarch is $395.50. There are 5 to choose from all of which are retail and are made by Leadtek, eVGA, XFX, BFG, and Asus (too expensive).

Personally I spent the extra $30 above the average to get a $350 eVGA 6800 GT at ZZF. Not only is it shipped in 2 days free, but it's a faster card with more features and most importantly, from what I consider a MUCH more reliable manufacturer than Connect3d... not to mention it is actually bundled with a few games. eVGA also has the 90-day step-up program that will allow me to upgrade to an Ultra for $100 w/in the next 3 months.

Just some imperical data for everyone making the decision. Happy shopping and good luck with your purchase.
 

user1234

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wow, boztech, I am STUNNED... such rubbish....

1) 6800GT at ZZF cost $360 not $350, and they charge tax for CA
2) Why the hell are you comparing the cheapest 6800GT you could find to the average price of X800XL (which is $75 more then this deal) ? average price is not relevant here
3) eVGA is known to be a cheap brand and they only give 1 year warranty. Connect3D at least have been around for a lot longer, and give 2 years warranty.
4) Contrary to what you say, the eVGA 6800GT comes with no bundled games, or extra software whatosoever.
5) Also contrary to what you say, the step up program requires you to pay the difference between your original price (e.g. $360) and the MSRP of the new card (e.g. $500 for 6800U), so you'll have to pay $140, not $100. In fact, since you have to pay MSRP for the Ultra, it will erase any savings or discounts you got when buying the GT. btw, the step up program is just a gimmick and is mostly worthless now, it only made sense when it was hard to find the high end cards.
6) As to being the faster card, we already discussed that, read the thread moron. Suffice to say that X800XL is on par with 6800GT.
 

helyes

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oh crap I just woke up to realize that my system that I am building doesn't have a pci-e slot. Now I need to get a good socket 754 mobo with pci-e, any suggestions?
 

Cheesetogo

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Barnacle Bill
Originally posted by: user1234
the gap between X800XL and 6800GT pci-e just seems to grow. The cheapest 6800gt pci-e I've seen is like $370, so this is $115 cheaper. pretty hot for a card which is 20% faster in HL2 and a bunch of other games.

Hi user1234,

Could you please provide some links which point to the benchmarks showing the 20% faster performance of the X800XL over the 6800GT? Are there any hardware differences between the X800XL and the X800XT and if so exactly what are they and is it possible to mod the XL (software or hardware) to make it an XT?? Thanks!

The X800XL is only faster in a few benchmarks like HL2. Overall, it's a tad slower and won't be able to play AoEIII in all it's glory because of the lack of SM3.0.

In fact, I posted this thread, and I didn't even buy it. I'm sticking with my 6600GT for now.

Isn't the whole point of sm 3.0 to make games that support it get a performance boost? I didn't think it afected image quality.
 
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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Isn't the whole point of sm 3.0 to make games that support it get a performance boost? I didn't think it afected image quality.
It's actually both or either.

Also, in the latest issue of PC Gamer, they highlight Prey and Duke Nukem Forever both of which will be using the Doom 3 engine. Quake 4 will as well. So, even aside from SM3 there are other major pros to a 6 series card.
 

Boztech

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Originally posted by: user1234
wow, boztech, I am STUNNED... such rubbish....

1) 6800GT at ZZF cost $360 not $350, and they charge tax for CA
2) Why the hell are you comparing the cheapest 6800GT you could find to the average price of X800XL (which is $75 more then this deal) ? average price is not relevant here
3) eVGA is known to be a cheap brand and they only give 1 year warranty. Connect3D at least have been around for a lot longer, and give 2 years warranty.
4) Contrary to what you say, the eVGA 6800GT comes with no bundled games, or extra software whatosoever.
5) Also contrary to what you say, the step up program requires you to pay the difference between your original price (e.g. $360) and the MSRP of the new card (e.g. $500 for 6800U), so you'll have to pay $140, not $100. In fact, since you have to pay MSRP for the Ultra, it will erase any savings or discounts you got when buying the GT. btw, the step up program is just a gimmick and is mostly worthless now, it only made sense when it was hard to find the high end cards.
6) As to being the faster card, we already discussed that, read the thread moron. Suffice to say that X800XL is on par with 6800GT.


*sigh* First of all, please keep the personal comments (MORON) of out the discussion.

1. It is now $359
2. That is not the cheapest 6800 GT I could find, it is not even the cheapest 6800 GT at ZZF... and I'm comparing it to the AVERAGE cost because that's the only fair comparison you can make. The point is you can get a GT for $20 under the average retail from a REPUTABLE manufacturer, and is still only $30 over the average retail for the x800XLs which are all from less preferable manufacturers. You can't compare an eVGA GT directly to a Connect3d x800XL, they are totally different companies and will not only build different quality cards, but provide different quality service. Like I metioned earlier, a fair comparison is the MSI x800XL to the MSI 6800 GT... the price difference is actually only $30 and the x800XL is $20 above MSRP while the 6800 GT is only $9 above MSRP.
3. Despite your speculation I have actually OWNED an eVGA 6800 and I KNOW they are a VERY good company to deal with, and I think if you ran a poll you'd see that most people would agree and would always put them ahead of Connect3d. ALSO, both companies have been around since 2003, and eVGA offers a 1+1 warranty, meaning 2 years, not 1, as long as you register, which you should anyway.
4. It comes with Far Cry (zzf does not specify)
5. What do you mean the step up program is a gimmick? What's the alternative when upgrading your card? Selling your card for a LOSS, then turning around and paying full retail for the Ultra, which at this point, is usually slightly OVER MSRP.

Tell me something, have you actually ever dealt with either of these manufacturers directly?


PS, here is my old card :)
http://www.tarleton.edu/students/st_bostick/forsale/6800gt/3dmark03.jpg
http://www.tarleton.edu/students/st_bostick/forsale/6800gt/DSC00005.jpg
 

dheffer

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2. So... where is the cheapest PCI-e 6800gt? How is this x800xl not reputable at 249?
5. Why would you want to "upgrade" your card, by increasing your fps by 5% by paying $100? That's a gimmick.

P.S. A core of 440mhz is not a guaranteed overclock, and it's not a likely overclock either. 440 is pretty lucky. Trust me, I use to own a leadtek 6800gt w/ an nvsilencer5
Your score isn't a valid comparison since it's not what the card is sold as.
 

shoRunner

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yeah this is an awesome deal and the bang for the buck value is much(MUCH) better than a 6800gt. average prices mean nothing, thats why there is this forum(its called hot deals).
 

user1234

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$360 for 6800GT pci-e is the cheapest I've ever seen it. It is still $110 more expensive than the X800XL in this deal. Connect3d is at least as reputable a manufacturer as EVGA, and its warranty is only 2 years compared to 1 year on the EVGA. The step up program is only within the first 90 days if you don't know, it's designed for clueless people that change their mind soon after purchasing the card, and it takes away any saving you got on the original card, as you have to pay the difference to full MSRP.

bottom line, everything you said is inaccurate and/or irrelevant
 

dheffer

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Originally posted by: user1234

$360 for 6800GT pci-e is the cheapest I've ever seen it. It is still $110 more expensive than the X800XL in this deal.

bottom line, everything you said is inaccurate and/or irrelevant

Indeed. I don't find user1234 to be the moron here.

If the x800xl is so far below the average... this just makes this deal EVEN HOTTER. This isn't a discussion about how good the card is, just the deal... so obviously, the x800xl is the better deal. Go home.
 

dheffer

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Originally posted by: HenHowC
is the agp version even out anywhere?


Sure are. Mind you, they hold a $50 premium in terms of MSRP over the pci-e versions, since they are natively pci-e. I except this to decrease in the future, however, here is an example.