-DEAD- 64 bit Motherboard and Cpu for 198 shipped @newegg

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imported_nitrus

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Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why
 

CrazyGamer

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Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why

I would guess they are one of these:

A) Intel fanboys
B) People who can't afford / Jealous
C) Plain crazy
D) Your average mad at the world PITA

I'd also like to hear why it is not hot, a viable reason. Where can this deal be matched or beat?
 

hckyplyr

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Just one in on the deal. dammit though, I had to pay tax in CA! :(

Can anyone recommend some good RAM for this motherboard? Thanks!
 

CrazyGamer

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Originally posted by: hckyplyr
Just one in on the deal. dammit though, I had to pay tax in CA! :(

Can anyone recommend some good RAM for this motherboard? Thanks!

Cut from my post see above:

Information on the ABIT KV8
184-pin DIMM Banking: 3 (3 banks of 1)
DDR SDRAM Frequencies: PC1600, PC2100, PC2700, and PC3200
Error Detection Support: ECC and non-ECC
Max Unbuffered DDR SDRAM: 2048MB
Module Types Supported: Unbuffered only
Supported DRAM Types: DDR SDRAM only

Note that it only supports 2 sticks of pc3200 while it can handle 3 sticks of pc2700.

Visit here for some tested brands/compatibility:

Tom's Hardware Memory Compatibility Test
 

ViRGE

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*grumble* *grumble*

Still at step 1, this is taking too long to be good, I think. :Q
 

CrazyGamer

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
*grumble* *grumble*

Still at step 1, this is taking too long to be good, I think. :Q

This was my first order that didn't ship same day (I never bother with rush processing so I can't complain). It shipped out next day, I guess they must really be overloaded, I never received any of the normal emails but status was updated promptly on the website each time I checked.
 

coolred

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Sure just abotu the time I finally take most peoples advice and decide to go with an AXP setup till 939 come sdown in price, this comes around. Now it makes me want to go A64 again.
 

RedShirt

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Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why

Because this socket is being phased out. Because the motherboard is based on a chipset that does not lock speeds for higher overclocks. Because you can get a NF7-S With a Mobile 2500+ that would perform as well if not better overclocked for a lot less money.

But it is still gives you good performance for the money, and Farcry is cool.

Edit: It still is a good deal... I just didn't think it was HOT because it's the slowest Athlon 64 that uses a socket that is being phased out and the mobo isn't known for overclocking.

If that doesn't bother you then it is hot.
 
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Originally posted by: RedShirt
Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why

Because this socket is being phased out. Because the motherboard is based on a chipset that does not lock speeds for higher overclocks. Because you can get a NF7-S With a Mobile 2500+ that would perform as well if not better overclocked for a lot less money.

But it is still gives you good performance for the money, and Farcry is cool.

Edit: It still is a good deal... I just didn't think it was HOT because it's the slowest Athlon 64 that uses a socket that is being phased out and the mobo isn't known for overclocking.

If that doesn't bother you then it is hot.


Read up on Socket 754. It is not being phased out nearly as quickly as you think. Also, CPU motherboard combos are so competitively priced now that future compatibility is kinda a non-issue.
 

RedShirt

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DevilsAdvocate,
Very true, however this is still the slowest Athlon 64 and it uses a mobo that most people wouldn't buy normally.

I would call the deal HOT if it used on of the Nforce chipsets that lock down the speeds for higher overclocks.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, it is still a good deal. I'm just saying why I don't think it is HOT. Just a matter of perspective I guess. If it had a better mobo I'd upgrade in a second. For right now I have no urge to replace my 2500+ with this.
 

rockman1117

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This is highly HOT deal for running at stock. You can use it as a cheap upgrade now, and eventually upgrade to a 3400+ or 3700+ when they get cheaper in a few months or maybe a year. Great stuff for people sitting on Celerons / P3's.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: CrazyGamer
Originally posted by: ViRGE
*grumble* *grumble*

Still at step 1, this is taking too long to be good, I think. :Q

This was my first order that didn't ship same day (I never bother with rush processing so I can't complain). It shipped out next day, I guess they must really be overloaded, I never received any of the normal emails but status was updated promptly on the website each time I checked.
That's what has me worried, the automated system should have taken it to step 2 by now.:(
 

CrazyGamer

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Originally posted by: RedShirt
Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why

Because this socket is being phased out. Because the motherboard is based on a chipset that does not lock speeds for higher overclocks. Because you can get a NF7-S With a Mobile 2500+ that would perform as well if not better overclocked for a lot less money.

But it is still gives you good performance for the money, and Farcry is cool.

This deal posted is for the Abit mobo and 64bit 2800+ without farcry, for $198. An NF7-S with a mobile 2500 = $173 at newegg. $25 more for this combo seems hot to me. The 754 socket will not be phased out for a while, currently they are only phasing out the 940 socket. You could turn around and resell the Abit mobo for a decent amount and pickup an nforce3 chaintech board for $69+shipping from mwave which is a decent overclocker. Maybe not worthwhile for an upgrade from a 2500+ or higher but that doesnt change the fact it is a hot deal. Basically your getting the Cpu for $185 then paying $13 for the abit mobo how is that not hot?
 

gsethi

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Originally posted by: CrazyGamer
Abit mobo back in stock, for now at least...

Credit to Gsethi for update in another post.

thanks for the credit...lets let the other post die so that we dont have to track 2 threads here...lets just keep this one alive.
 

RedShirt

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Originally posted by: CrazyGamer
Originally posted by: RedShirt
Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why

Because this socket is being phased out. Because the motherboard is based on a chipset that does not lock speeds for higher overclocks. Because you can get a NF7-S With a Mobile 2500+ that would perform as well if not better overclocked for a lot less money.

But it is still gives you good performance for the money, and Farcry is cool.

This deal posted is for the Abit mobo and 64bit 2800+ without farcry, for $198. An NF7-S with a mobile 2500 = $173 at newegg. $25 more for this combo seems hot to me. The 754 socket will not be phased out for a while, currently they are only phasing out the 940 socket. You could turn around and resell the Abit mobo for a decent amount and pickup an nforce3 chaintech board for $69+shipping from mwave which is a decent overclocker. Maybe not worthwhile for an upgrade from a 2500+ or higher but that doesnt change the fact it is a hot deal. Basically your getting the Cpu for $185 then paying $13 for the abit mobo how is that not hot?


I thought Farcry was manditory... I was lead to believe that the $198 was a temp price until Newegg found their mistake. If they board and proc can be had for that price than yeah, that is hot.
 

CrazyGamer

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Originally posted by: RedShirt
Originally posted by: CrazyGamer
Originally posted by: RedShirt
Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: lizardboy
Still no auto-notify e-mail from Newegg that it's back in stock - I think they're just torturing people at this point.


its in stock right now get it while you can.


and to the 14 people who voted its not a hot deal give me a reason why

Because this socket is being phased out. Because the motherboard is based on a chipset that does not lock speeds for higher overclocks. Because you can get a NF7-S With a Mobile 2500+ that would perform as well if not better overclocked for a lot less money.

But it is still gives you good performance for the money, and Farcry is cool.

This deal posted is for the Abit mobo and 64bit 2800+ without farcry, for $198. An NF7-S with a mobile 2500 = $173 at newegg. $25 more for this combo seems hot to me. The 754 socket will not be phased out for a while, currently they are only phasing out the 940 socket. You could turn around and resell the Abit mobo for a decent amount and pickup an nforce3 chaintech board for $69+shipping from mwave which is a decent overclocker. Maybe not worthwhile for an upgrade from a 2500+ or higher but that doesnt change the fact it is a hot deal. Basically your getting the Cpu for $185 then paying $13 for the abit mobo how is that not hot?


I thought Farcry was manditory... I was lead to believe that the $198 was a temp price until Newegg found their mistake. If they board and proc can be had for that price than yeah, that is hot.

Newegg removed this board from the farcry bundle promotion, and did not alter the discount. Everybody at first assumed it was a temporary mistake but the removal from the farcry bundle promotion page and the number of days it has ran so far more than likely means its not a mistake. Still it probably is a limited time offer. Farcry is still mandatory with the Chaintech via k8t800 board/cpu combo at $223.
 

imported_nitrus

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I understand your concerns redshirt, all points were indeed valid.

1) 754 will eventually become phased out i agree, but didnt we all get "obsolete" 865, 875, nforce2 MBs like 1.5 yrs ago? We will also have to fight the dual core upgrade itch (intel and amd) next year anyways. The computer industry is a vampire that will suck us all dry. You just have to bargain hunt.

2) Slowest proc and unoverclockable is a good point, however It can still beat a 3.0ghz Intel, any AMD XP, or XP-m for the price of just the 3.0ghz Intel proc or the XP 3200+ proc + $25.

3) With Intel getting on the 64bit bandwagon, it solidified 64bit processing. We ARE getting software and drivers by as early as next year (even though i say that optimistically). So early next year when i look for a new CPU and MB, the 64bit revolution will be in full swing. This will leave Northwood, Prescott, XP, XP-m with at least a 5 - 20% disadvantage, all for $200............

cmon out there, give me some reasons this aint a good deal. nuthin against you redshirt jus my POV.

DevilsAdvocate : yeah the rockets kick a$$
 

zaph

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Just ordered a combo, called newegg, complained about game & the csr credited me the 25.00, so for 200.99 (I got the 2.99 expedite order)
I got a A64 2800+, a CHAINTECH "SK8T800" K8T800 mobo and a copy of farcry.

Sounds like a deal to me.

Anyone want to buy a copy of farcry cheap ? ;)
 

coolred

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currently they are only phasing out the 940 socket.


Say what, While I admit I may be wrong, I don't think they will be getting rid of socket 940 any time in the near future. Socket 940 is thier server socket, supporting the opterons. Although you probablly meant that they were gonna stop using socket 940 for the mainstream market.
 

CrazyGamer

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Originally posted by: coolred
currently they are only phasing out the 940 socket.


Say what, While I admit I may be wrong, I don't think they will be getting rid of socket 940 any time in the near future. Socket 940 is thier server socket, supporting the opterons. Although you probablly meant that they were gonna stop using socket 940 for the mainstream market.

Tom's Hardware socket 754, 939, 940 plans

Technically yes it is not being totally phased out, it will remain as a server solution but unavaible for retail. Article talks about socket 754 remaining and the replacement of socket 940 to 939 for retail sales.
 

gibster

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Is the 2800 multiplier-unlocked? Can't find the answer anywhere. Since they say the chip runs at 1.8GHz, is the multiplier 9 at 200MHz? Or are the buses decoupled, and memory can run at whatever speed it can, and FSB is set to something (probably 200MHz)?

From what I've seen, people seem to everclock these things by FSB, which leads me to believe they are multiplier-locked. It seems the Abit board has another frequency divisor at 233MHz FSB for the AGP and PCI buses, so it seems overclocking this CPU to 2.1GHz *should* be feasible with good memory, or relaxed timings.

Hmmm.

Anybody has any information about the overclockability of these CPUs? It would seem the chances are much better with this one vs. the 3000 or 3200, thanks to the lower multiplier. I guess it all depends how they get binned, as there could be some nuggets among those CPUs, or they could all be unoverclockable dogs.
 

imported_nitrus

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Originally posted by: gibster
Is the 2800 multiplier-unlocked? Can't find the answer anywhere. Since they say the chip runs at 1.8GHz, is the multiplier 9 at 200MHz? Or are the buses decoupled, and memory can run at whatever speed it can, and FSB is set to something (probably 200MHz)?

From what I've seen, people seem to everclock these things by FSB, which leads me to believe they are multiplier-locked. It seems the Abit board has another frequency divisor at 233MHz FSB for the AGP and PCI buses, so it seems overclocking this CPU to 2.1GHz *should* be feasible with good memory, or relaxed timings.

Hmmm.

Anybody has any information about the overclockability of these CPUs? It would seem the chances are much better with this one vs. the 3000 or 3200, thanks to the lower multiplier. I guess it all depends how they get binned, as there could be some nuggets among those CPUs, or they could all be unoverclockable dogs.


I'm getting the combo in tomorrow, so i dont have any first hand knowledge of overclocking this proc. I can tell you that the multiplier can be lowered from 8 7 6 down to 4 i believe. The main thing ive heard about overclockable A64's is that Mobile version and the desktop versions with the CG stepping have great results. 1MB cache also is 5% faster as compared to a 512k one that is similiarly clocked. Be careful with mobiles if you decide to go that direction some motherboards have issues with recognizing them and HSF have compatability issues due to the nature of it being lidless. They can scale as high as 2.5Ghz.
 

gibster

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Originally posted by: nitrus
Originally posted by: gibster
Is the 2800 multiplier-unlocked? Can't find the answer anywhere. Since they say the chip runs at 1.8GHz, is the multiplier 9 at 200MHz? Or are the buses decoupled, and memory can run at whatever speed it can, and FSB is set to something (probably 200MHz)?

From what I've seen, people seem to everclock these things by FSB, which leads me to believe they are multiplier-locked. It seems the Abit board has another frequency divisor at 233MHz FSB for the AGP and PCI buses, so it seems overclocking this CPU to 2.1GHz *should* be feasible with good memory, or relaxed timings.

Hmmm.

Anybody has any information about the overclockability of these CPUs? It would seem the chances are much better with this one vs. the 3000 or 3200, thanks to the lower multiplier. I guess it all depends how they get binned, as there could be some nuggets among those CPUs, or they could all be unoverclockable dogs.


I'm getting the combo in tomorrow, so i dont have any first hand knowledge of overclocking this proc. I can tell you that the multiplier can be lowered from 8 7 6 down to 4 i believe. The main thing ive heard about overclockable A64's is that Mobile version and the desktop versions with the CG stepping have great results. 1MB cache also is 5% faster as compared to a 512k one that is similiarly clocked. Be careful with mobiles if you decide to go that direction some motherboards have issues with recognizing them and HSF have compatability issues due to the nature of it being lidless. They can scale as high as 2.5Ghz.

Yeah, I'm getting the combo soon as well (Friday), so I'll find out soon enough.
I don't think we are getting a mobile CPU, or one with 1MB cache, so it's a moot point.

I would be happy with 2.1GHz, crossing my fingers that my Kingston PC3500 can do 233MHz...