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Aimster

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Originally posted by: boggsie
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bill lied to prove his point

Bill lost

As O'Reilly suggested to Letterman in response to his "60% BS remark" - Let's talk specifics.

Interestingly, Letterman indicated a certain opinion of BOR, but admitted to having not watched the show. If Letterman doesn't watch the (an entire) show, how would he really know what goes on?

Do you own a bill o'reilly hat?

You do not need to watch the show to know what is going on.

This is not Friends or Family Guy. This is a guy who discusses the news and his opinions are published in various magazines, newspapers, etc.
 

AmdInside

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Only people who really can't stand Bill Oreilly would say he got pwnd. I thought Bill did pretty good overall given he was making politcal comments and was still receiving applauses from the crowd. I don't udnerstand why political commentators ever bother going on a late night tv program and start talking politics. Political discussions should stay on CNN and Fox and MSNBC stations. Obviously Dave was going to try and do anything to get laughs. He did not do much research on Bill because he does not want to get into a political debate with Bill.

Personally I can't stand David Letterman. Conan is much better. Even Jay Leno is better. If news and political commentators go on late night tv talk shows, they should just talk about funny stuff in their lives, not politics.

 
Jun 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bill lied to prove his point

Bill lost



Proof? Or have you just got diarrhea of the mouth again....

looks like it

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1772447&enterthread=y



OMG, you really are a dumb fvck aren't you??!! I thought you just ACTED ignorant as part of your persona here, but it appears it's part of your very core. Did you even watch the video in your link there friend? Did you even watch the Letterman video?

Before I go any further let me clarify one thing. I am not pro Bill or David in this issue, that's not my point here. My point is that dumb sh1ts like you propegate bs without even looking at/reading what you use as eveidence to back your self up.

Let me spell it out for you Aimster. Last night O' Riley said they were suing over the colors of the napkins being red and green. He made NO, and I repat NO mention of them suing about clothing of any kind or color.

Now, after following your link and seeing that video of O' Riley saying a "retraction" I feel compelled to ask you how that is considered lying. The video plainly shows that he made a MISTAKE and corrected it on air HIMSELF. It wasn't a matter of him making ****** up and someone else calling him a liar. HE CORRECTED HIMSELF.

From the article in the link you provided to prove me wrong.....:roll:

During the December 20 edition of The Factor, O'Reilly admitted that he "made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in the party dictum."

Sheesh, you're a douche.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: cubby1223
But I really think O'Reilly was getting a little too heated in his arguements, while Letterman was trying to add humor in to keep the discussion more light-hearted. It's funny to watch John Stewart do the same thing on the Daily Show when the guest starts talking seriously about current events - he's very quick to derail the discussion.
Because they know they dont know what they are talking about.
As well as that O'Reilly is more intelligent than they are.. hence Letterman admitting hes not intelligent enough to debate with Bill.
Two masters degrees and one from Harvard.. the guy is going to dominate someone like Jon Stewart or Letterman. Hes an intellectually honed mind.
They know this.. which is why they admit it.
I wasn't making any jab at anyone's intelligence, and wasn't even trying to compare Letterman to Stewart in those terms.

The comparison I was making was that neither the Late Show or the Daily Show are geared towards heated political debate - they both want the shows to be more light-hearted, easy to watch, and have comedy throughout the show. It doesn't matter who can debate who, it's instead a matter of what type of show Letterman & Stewart want to produce.

Even though I agree with all of O'Reilly's points, I thought he should have left them on the Factor, and talked about something different on the Late Show. That's all.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bill lied to prove his point

Bill lost



Proof? Or have you just got diarrhea of the mouth again....

looks like it

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1772447&enterthread=y



OMG, you really are a dumb fvck aren't you??!! I thought you just ACTED ignorant as part of your persona here, but it appears it's part of your very core. Did you even watch the video in your link there friend? Did you even watch the Letterman video?

Before I go any further let me clarify one thing. I am not pro Bill or David in this issue, that's not my point here. My point is that dumb sh1ts like you propegate bs without even looking at/reading what you use as eveidence to back your self up.

Let me spell it out for you Aimster. Last night O' Riley said they were suing over the colors of the napkins being red and green. He made NO, and I repat NO mention of them suing about clothing of any kind or color.

Now, after following your link and seeing that video of O' Riley saying a "retraction" I feel compelled to ask you how that is considered lying. The video plainly shows that he made a MISTAKE and corrected it on air HIMSELF. It wasn't a matter of him making ****** up and someone else calling him a liar. HE CORRECTED HIMSELF.

From the article in the link you provided to prove me wrong.....:roll:

During the December 20 edition of The Factor, O'Reilly admitted that he "made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in the party dictum."

Sheesh, you're a douche.

Hi,

The article in the link I provided?

I posted a thread created by another member.

If you wish to object to the information in that thread then post in there

Stop trying to get my attention. I will never love you, ok?
 
Jun 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bill lied to prove his point

Bill lost



Proof? Or have you just got diarrhea of the mouth again....

looks like it

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1772447&enterthread=y



OMG, you really are a dumb fvck aren't you??!! I thought you just ACTED ignorant as part of your persona here, but it appears it's part of your very core. Did you even watch the video in your link there friend? Did you even watch the Letterman video?

Before I go any further let me clarify one thing. I am not pro Bill or David in this issue, that's not my point here. My point is that dumb sh1ts like you propegate bs without even looking at/reading what you use as eveidence to back your self up.

Let me spell it out for you Aimster. Last night O' Riley said they were suing over the colors of the napkins being red and green. He made NO, and I repat NO mention of them suing about clothing of any kind or color.

Now, after following your link and seeing that video of O' Riley saying a "retraction" I feel compelled to ask you how that is considered lying. The video plainly shows that he made a MISTAKE and corrected it on air HIMSELF. It wasn't a matter of him making ****** up and someone else calling him a liar. HE CORRECTED HIMSELF.

From the article in the link you provided to prove me wrong.....:roll:

During the December 20 edition of The Factor, O'Reilly admitted that he "made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in the party dictum."

Sheesh, you're a douche.

Hi,

The article in the link I provided?

I posted a thread created by another member.

If you wish to object to the information in that thread then post in there

Stop trying to get my attention. I will never love you, ok?


You know what I mean numb nuts, the article linked in the link you provided. You're just back peddaling now.

Get out of this thread and throw up another fake pic of yourself to garner attention.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bill lied to prove his point

Bill lost



Proof? Or have you just got diarrhea of the mouth again....

looks like it

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1772447&enterthread=y



OMG, you really are a dumb fvck aren't you??!! I thought you just ACTED ignorant as part of your persona here, but it appears it's part of your very core. Did you even watch the video in your link there friend? Did you even watch the Letterman video?

Before I go any further let me clarify one thing. I am not pro Bill or David in this issue, that's not my point here. My point is that dumb sh1ts like you propegate bs without even looking at/reading what you use as eveidence to back your self up.

Let me spell it out for you Aimster. Last night O' Riley said they were suing over the colors of the napkins being red and green. He made NO, and I repat NO mention of them suing about clothing of any kind or color.

Now, after following your link and seeing that video of O' Riley saying a "retraction" I feel compelled to ask you how that is considered lying. The video plainly shows that he made a MISTAKE and corrected it on air HIMSELF. It wasn't a matter of him making ****** up and someone else calling him a liar. HE CORRECTED HIMSELF.

From the article in the link you provided to prove me wrong.....:roll:

During the December 20 edition of The Factor, O'Reilly admitted that he "made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in the party dictum."

Sheesh, you're a douche.

Hi,

The article in the link I provided?

I posted a thread created by another member.

If you wish to object to the information in that thread then post in there

Stop trying to get my attention. I will never love you, ok?


You know what I mean numb nuts, the article linked in the link you provided. You're just back peddaling now.

Get out of this thread and throw up another fake pic of yourself to garner attention.

Haha I think you are too scared to post in P&N

:)
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Aimster
Bill lied to prove his point

Bill lost

Proof? Or have you just got diarrhea of the mouth again....

looks like it

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1772447&enterthread=y



OMG, you really are a dumb fvck aren't you??!! I thought you just ACTED ignorant as part of your persona here, but it appears it's part of your very core. Did you even watch the video in your link there friend? Did you even watch the Letterman video?

Before I go any further let me clarify one thing. I am not pro Bill or David in this issue, that's not my point here. My point is that dumb sh1ts like you propegate bs without even looking at/reading what you use as eveidence to back your self up.

Let me spell it out for you Aimster. Last night O' Riley said they were suing over the colors of the napkins being red and green. He made NO, and I repat NO mention of them suing about clothing of any kind or color.

Now, after following your link and seeing that video of O' Riley saying a "retraction" I feel compelled to ask you how that is considered lying. The video plainly shows that he made a MISTAKE and corrected it on air HIMSELF. It wasn't a matter of him making ****** up and someone else calling him a liar. HE CORRECTED HIMSELF.

From the article in the link you provided to prove me wrong.....:roll:

During the December 20 edition of The Factor, O'Reilly admitted that he "made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in the party dictum."

Sheesh, you're a douche.


From another story in the thread if you would happen to take the time to actually read before spitting your vinegar and water everywhere:

The issue of wearing red and green is mentioned in a lawsuit brought against the Plano ISD by four families challenging district policies they believe restrict their children's freedom of speech at school. The case stems from an elementary school student who was barred from handing out a religious story about the candy cane to fellow classmates during a 2003 winter break party.

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But Abernathy said the letter sent does not ban red, green, yellow or purple, but the letter asks students to bring items for a winter break party that reflect winter and snow, which is white. The letter asks for student contributions of white napkins, sugar cookies, juice boxes and Hershey's kisses for the parties.

Maybe if you, like Bill, would take the time to do a nanosecond's research, you would see the err of your ways.

Bill lied about the colors, whether they were the color of clothes as on his show or the color of plates and napkins as he stated on Letterman. Period. End of story.

The lawsuit that he referenced is about parents trying to pimp their elementary school child as a witness for Jesus to other elementary school children and being disallowed. He insinuates it is about "Christmas colors" because the parents say that it was. If he would have requested a copy of the letter that ASKED for them to bring only white items without denying them the right to bring any other color, he would have seen that for himself.

To summize, he was contacted by the district's lawyer with the corrected info. He still lied and misrepresented the case. If Letterman, Stewart, Conan or my dog would have been giving any of his talking points 15 minutes in advance, he would have been royally pwned. Since they weren't given them, he is merely owned for having to lie to sell snake oil when he clearly knows what he is saying is a falsehood. It is a very weak man that can't stick to the truth when confronted with a choice.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
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Bill lied
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Lie:
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression

O'Reilly was not trying to deceive or mislead anyone. If he wasn't aware of all the facts when he made his initial statement, then sorry, but that's not lying. I don't expect anyone to be able to know everything about everything, no one has that capacity. So atleast he was able to admit he reported something incorrectly, that's more than I can say for most people here.

It's only conserded a "lie" to someone who already hates O'Reilly.
 

ajf3

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Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Didn't see Bill get "owned", if anything Dave did what he does best (talk and joke) and challenge Bill. Bill responded with his point of view, Dave having nothing else to say attack Bill on a personal level ("60% of everything you say is BS") and Bill came out looking smarter.

Bill actually got more applause than Dave did in that segment (kinda sad since its Dave's home turf)


Same here... Dave come off as kinda of emotional without any facts to back up his opinion - basically he just came off like he didn't like Bill.

Bill on the other hand, pretty much countered point for point rationally & professionally...

They were pretty much in character - Dave an entertainer & Bill a respected journalist.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
<snip>
Bill lied
<snip>
Lie:
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression

O'Reilly was not trying to deceive or mislead anyone. If he wasn't aware of all the facts when he made his initial statement, then sorry, but that's not lying. I don't expect anyone to be able to know everything about everything, no one has that capacity. So atleast he was able to admit he reported something incorrectly, that's more than I can say for most people here.

It's only conserded a "lie" to someone who already hates O'Reilly.

Lie:
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression

There's a war on Xmas....these ba$tards in Plano are banning red and green plates. It's in court right now. O'Reilly on Letterman 1/3/06

Date of story where school district's attorney contacted O'Reilly and Fox to let them both know of his "mistake" the first time around: 12/14/05

So, he is told at least three weeks earlier that this is not true and states it anyway. When you ARE MADE AWARE of the facts and you still repeat an untrue statement, you are lying.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: ajf3
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Didn't see Bill get "owned", if anything Dave did what he does best (talk and joke) and challenge Bill. Bill responded with his point of view, Dave having nothing else to say attack Bill on a personal level ("60% of everything you say is BS") and Bill came out looking smarter.

Bill actually got more applause than Dave did in that segment (kinda sad since its Dave's home turf)


Same here... Dave come off as kinda of emotional without any facts to back up his opinion - basically he just came off like he didn't like Bill.

Bill on the other hand, pretty much countered point for point rationally & professionally...

They were pretty much in character - Dave an (liberal) entertainer & Bill a respected journalist.

Respected by whom? And a journalist? He hasn't been one since he left Hard Copy. He is a talking head parroting views that are fed to him. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

daniel49

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Just watched the clip linked in this thread.
If being owned is having the other side say they are not smart enough to debate you then Bill was owned.
Personally it would have been more entertaining and useful if they had brought a 3rd party in who was smart enough.

I'll bet Letterman would never have the guts to go on Bills show.

Didn't get to see the Christmas part but I don't know how anybody with any intelligence at all can say that there has been no pressure on the Holiday.
One of my house guests last week was my mom a dem( thats ok I still love her)
She drives a school bus. She was wearing a sweatshirt when she visited that said Merry Christmas on it . Somehow in the conversation in her talking about being warm as she drives it came out that she used to wear this shirt to work around Christmas but she can't anymore its against the rules.

I said now wait mom, you are telling me that they came right out and said you can not wear a sweatshirt to work that says Merry Christmas?
Her answer was Yes.
The fact is school districts all over this country are doing similar illegal things because they are intimidated and advised by the aclu.
Of course she is not going to complain or fight this because she needs the income...isn't it odd that we feel its so important to protect certain types of free speech like porn but we can intimidate people from freely saying Merry Christmas?
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: daniel49

Just watched the clip linked in this thread.
If being owned is having the other side say they are not smart enough to debate you then Bill was owned.
Personally it would have been more entertaining and useful if they had brought a 3rd party in who was smart enough.

I'll bet Letterman would never have the guts to go on Bills show.

Didn't get to see the Christmas part but I don't know how anybody with any intelligence at all can say that there has been no pressure on the Holiday.
One of my house guests last week was my mom a dem( thats ok I still love her)
She drives a school bus. She was wearing a sweatshirt on it when she visited that said Merry Christmas. Somehow in the conversation in her talking about being warm as she drives it came out that she used to wear this shirt to work around Christmas but she can't anymore its against the rules.

I said now wait mom, you are telling me that they came right out and said you can not wear a sweatshirt to work that says Merry Christmas?
Her answer was Yes.
The fact is school districts all over this country are doing similar illegal things because they are intimidated and advised by the aclu.
Of course she is not going to complain or fight this because she needs the income...isn't it odd that we feel its so important to protect certain types of free speech like porn but we can intimidate people from freely saying Merry Christmas?

I'm calling shens on your Moms.

I would like to see a policy in writing that she can't wear that shirt. If they don't have one and she wore it and was fired or anything else, I bet you anything that the ACLU would be fighting for her. Also, I would like to see a single example of the ACLU advising anyone to do this.

Bet you can't on either account.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: daniel49

Just watched the clip linked in this thread.
If being owned is having the other side say they are not smart enough to debate you then Bill was owned.
Personally it would have been more entertaining and useful if they had brought a 3rd party in who was smart enough.

I'll bet Letterman would never have the guts to go on Bills show.

Didn't get to see the Christmas part but I don't know how anybody with any intelligence at all can say that there has been no pressure on the Holiday.
One of my house guests last week was my mom a dem( thats ok I still love her)
She drives a school bus. She was wearing a sweatshirt on it when she visited that said Merry Christmas. Somehow in the conversation in her talking about being warm as she drives it came out that she used to wear this shirt to work around Christmas but she can't anymore its against the rules.

I said now wait mom, you are telling me that they came right out and said you can not wear a sweatshirt to work that says Merry Christmas?
Her answer was Yes.
The fact is school districts all over this country are doing similar illegal things because they are intimidated and advised by the aclu.
Of course she is not going to complain or fight this because she needs the income...isn't it odd that we feel its so important to protect certain types of free speech like porn but we can intimidate people from freely saying Merry Christmas?

I'm calling shens on your Moms.

I would like to see a policy in writing that she can't wear that shirt. If they don't have one and she wore it and was fired or anything else, I bet you anything that the ACLU would be fighting for her. Also, I would like to see a single example of the ACLU advising anyone to do this.

Bet you can't on either account.


Yeah , I am going to go over to the other side of the state and demand that they produce it in writing because I don't believe what my mother said..that way I could prove it to you......please get real.
Problem is you are going to believe what you want to believe no matter what.
You know something doesn't have to be in writing to prove its true nor is it written in blood that something is true because someone put it on paper.

But any court of law puts an awful lot of creedence in eye witnesses how many eye witnesses would it take for you...I wonder?
 

Rebasxer

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As much as I hate Bill, he in no way got owned, he was getting beaten back pretty early, but came back towards the end and saved himself.
 

TheShiz

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i wanna see Noam Chomsky vs Bill O'Reilly

then we could talk about some pwnage.