Dave Matthews Speaks Out About the War

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Dave Matthews Speaks Out About the War
I hope this letter finds you all well and that in these uncertain times you find moments to be joyful.

I want to speak my mind about this war with Iraq, or I will choke on my conscience.

What is the motivation? Regime change? Shouldn't that be up to the people of the region and the people of Iraq? The only real threat from Saddam Hussein is to his neighbors and none of them support a U.S. invasion. Is it to stabilize the Middle-East? Wouldn't it only do the opposite by causing further death and suffering in a country that has had more than its share?

Is it to weaken Al Qaeda? Saddam Hussein is a genocidal maniac but he is not Al Qaeda. He is certainly more visible though. Is he our target because he is easier to identify than the illusive terrorist network? Surely it is more likely that an attack on Iraq would only strengthen Al Qaeda by feeding Anti-American sentiment. Putting out the fire with gasoline, so to speak. It is certainly not to liberate the people of Iraq who suffer under Hussein's rule, unless we call killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis liberation.

Saddam Hussein is a barbaric murderous dictator. I wish the world were free of him. But the answer is not to bomb this great culture of Iraq out of existence to stop him. Why must the children of Iraq die by the thousands to stop a tyrant? It is not justice. And if we kill him what will we achieve? We will have taken the most unpopular leader in the Middle East and turned him into the greatest martyr radical Islam has ever had. The U.N. weapons inspectors must be allowed to do their job thoroughly and any military action should be internationally agreed upon. We must not allow our government to turn us into a rogue nation.

I fear that our true motivation is about oil and our own flailing economy; about the failure to destroy Al Qaeda and about revenge. It is criminal to put our servicemen and women in harm's way and to put the lives of so many civilians on the line for the misguided frustrations of the Bush administration.

Bottom line: this war is wrong and this war is un-American.

Peacefully submitted,
Dave Matthews
 

MooseKnuckle

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It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.
 

Desslok

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Bottom line: this war is wrong and this war is un-American
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Guess being from South Africa he didn't study American History that much in school.

How did we "open up" the west?

How did we gain control of the Panama Canal?

Anyone remember T.R.'s charge up San Juan Hill?

 

KK

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And we should care what he says anymore than any person on this board.

KK
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: KK
And we should care what he says anymore than any person on this board.

KK

But he is a major recording artist with millions of dollars. Surely his opinion has more strength than yours does.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

want to bomb anyone else who has nothing to do with it?
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Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

It's amazing that so many people have this weird fetish that forces them to connect the WTC and Saddam.
 

MooseKnuckle

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

want to bomb anyone else who has nothing to do with it?
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That's funny, I saw on MSNBC that Saddam provided medical care for a top Al-Qeda henchman. Why he didn't seek medical treatment in the US or Britain. Answer cuz he's a F@@@@@@ terrorist and it's know that Saddam supports them. Like Bush said, You're either with us or not.
 

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Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

want to bomb anyone else who has nothing to do with it?
rolleye.gif


That's funny, I saw on MSNBC that Saddam provided medical care for a top Al-Qeda henchman. Why he didn't seek medical treatment in the US or Britain. Answer cuz he's a F@@@@@@ terrorist and it's know that Saddam supports them. Like Bush said, You're either with us or not.
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edt.
Does Chile have enough reason to bomb Brittain because they provided medical treatment for Pinochet?
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

There is evidence that Al Qaeda are being trained in half a dozen other middle eastern countries as well - what makes Iraq special?

 

MooseKnuckle

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

There is evidence that Al Qaeda are being trained in half a dozen other middle eastern countries as well - what makes Iraq special?

There not special, they just happen to be first.

 

CFster

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And they have the biggest oil fields. I'm sure those other countries are in line too...



 

MooseKnuckle

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Originally posted by: CFster
And they have the biggest oil fields. I'm sure those other countries are in line...

Oil is good, we could use it. Unlike Saddam, we could you use it to feed the poor in 3rd world countries. And maybe I could buy my SUV, because gas prices will be like 60 cents a gallon and not $1.75.
 

CFster

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Maybe we should be putting our money and effort into taking care of our own borders. While we're off on a wild goose chase something tragic is going to happen again on our very own soil.

Poor MooseKnuckle. Cretin. If everybody thought in the same black and white terms we would all be dead by now. "we could you use it to feed the poor in 3rd world countries." - do you really believe that would happen? How old are you anyway?

I agree with Desslok - this war is un-American. There is no logical reason for it - except the for the reason Bush won't admit to. And he is so egotistical he won't turn back now, so thousands of innocent people are going to die.
 

Tominator

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

There is evidence that Al Qaeda are being trained in half a dozen other middle eastern countries as well - what makes Iraq special?


If you cannot answer that yourself, you have your head stuck in a bag!
 

T2T III

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The only real threat from Saddam Hussein is to his neighbors and none of them support a U.S. invasion.
Initially, Hitler was only a threat to his neighbors. If he had not been stopped, he would have been a threat to the whole World.
 

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To all you naysayers, suppose it's true and Saddam does have weapons of mass destruction. And he launches on Israel. Then they retaliate with full force. Thousands won't die, hundreds of thousands will. Now how long do we allow a madman to continue. Does the name Hitler ring a bell? And oil, yes the it's important, but mostly to the countries that oppose action against Iraq. Think France is protecting the world? Try TotalFinaElf!!