Dave Matthews Speaks Out About the War

[JellyBaby]

While Matthews should stick to creating imagery in front of a mic he makes valid points. There will be consequences for an Iraqi invasion and Bush hasn't been honest with us about it. There is little to no talk of what will happen after the conquest. Would disclosing that information also compromise national security? I don't believe there is an exit strategy to this one. There is to be a permanent Western...influence in Iraq for perpetuity. After all, can the West allow...the Iraqi people to ever become threatened again? I don't think so.

It is truly about oil in part though you can argue the weight of that part of the equation. I wouldn't go so far as Moonbeam did a couple of posts ago but to deny it is foolish.

 

[pulse8]

For all those using Dave Matthew's South African roots for the basis of your argument, you should probably know that the artist left South Africa at the ripe old age of 2 years old.

 

[Konigin]

Who is Dave Matthews? Is he kin to those Baldwin boys?

No, not the Baldwins, the Osmonds.

 

[DerProfi]

Originally posted by: Feanor727

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All the old farts up in Washington (and on this board) can sit and talk about how great war would be all day long, but it's today's generation of 18-24 year olds who are gonna take it straight up the @$$.

This argument (along with Charles Rangel's "Our military is racist because minorities outnumber white male Ivy League grads on the front lines" rhetoric) always makes me scratch my head. If folks enlist in the U.S. armed forces, I think it's a pretty safe assumption that they don't expect to be picking daisies all day.

Seriously, I think there's pretty strong support for the Bush administration within the military, and most seem quite confident (as they should) that our amazing air/ground superiority will minimize U.S. casualties. Heck, going strictly by the numbers, we probably lose more soldiers in random helicopter crashes and training accidents than we ever did in the Gulf War (148). If you want to feel sorry for a soldier, pray to your deity of choice for the poor Iraqi cannon-fodder who will most likely be stuck in the middle. Last time around, those poor slobs fell over themselves surrendering, yet they still lost over 100,000.

PS, I really kick myself every time I let myself get caught up in a political or religious debate on ATOT! Time to start hanging out in Hot Deals again...

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle
It's amazing how people just seem to forget 9/11. Bomb the S.O.B. now. If not, I'm sure we'll regret it later.

its amazing how Hussein has nothing to do with 9/11 yet people bring that up as an excuse.

It's amazing how people feel a need to state something that has been posted twice before their post. Read the whole thread first, eh?

no, i won't read every fckin post, eh? some of these threads are just too long for me to do so. consider it as support of their argument if it says the same thing.

 

[sandorski]

He has every right to state his opinion, just as those of us here have the right to state ours. Just because the media plasters his opinion on the frontpage or as a story on TV, don't hate him for that.

 

[althor27]

ummm... where exactly did this "Dave Matthews Quote" come from. Not that I have reason to doubt it but, just curious?

 

[Descartes]

I wonder if he was doing that little foot dance he does when he wrote this?

 

[Feanor727]

Originally posted by: DerProfi

Originally posted by: Feanor727

<snip>
All the old farts up in Washington (and on this board) can sit and talk about how great war would be all day long, but it's today's generation of 18-24 year olds who are gonna take it straight up the @$$.

This argument (along with Charles Rangel's "Our military is racist because minorities outnumber white male Ivy League grads on the front lines" rhetoric) always makes me scratch my head. If folks enlist in the U.S. armed forces, I think it's a pretty safe assumption that they don't expect to be picking daisies all day.

Seriously, I think there's pretty strong support for the Bush administration within the military, and most seem quite confident (as they should) that our amazing air/ground superiority will minimize U.S. casualties. Heck, going strictly by the numbers, we probably lose more soldiers in random helicopter crashes and training accidents than we ever did in the Gulf War (148). If you want to feel sorry for a soldier, pray to your deity of choice for the poor Iraqi cannon-fodder who will most likely be stuck in the middle. Last time around, those poor slobs fell over themselves surrendering, yet they still lost over 100,000.

PS, I really kick myself every time I let myself get caught up in a political or religious debate on ATOT! Time to start hanging out in Hot Deals again...

ok... scratch away, but I refer to the resolution going through congress to reinstate the draft. It's not a matter of voluntary service, it's one of forced conscription.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: MooseKnuckle

Originally posted by: CFster
And they have the biggest oil fields. I'm sure those other countries are in line...

Oil is good, we could use it. Unlike Saddam, we could you use it to feed the poor in 3rd world countries. And maybe I could buy my SUV, because gas prices will be like 60 cents a gallon and not $1.75.

Now that is a wonderful reason to go to war...

 

[SlowSS]

I don't even like Dave Matthews band so what he has to say has no bearing on my beliefs.:Q

 

[tcsenter]

Bottom line: this war is wrong and this war is un-American.

Peacefully submitted,

Dave Matthews

Hmm, I don't see a date for this letter, am I missing it?

I can't tell if Matthews wrote this in response to when the Clinton administration was advocating that Hussein be removed by military action or to the Bush adminstration advocating that Hussein be removed by military action.

If it is that latter, it only begs the question, where can I find a copy of the open letter he wrote opposing the war and calling it 'un-American' when Clinton was talking of removing Hussein?

Huh? What's that you say? I can't? Because Matthews never wrote one?

Well, imagine that.