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DAMNIT! My genetics professor just posted the grades for our final...

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Mwilding
since when is telling the professor that you went to every class an extenuating circumstance?

The extenuating circumstance was the scheduling of multiple exams on the same day.

If he lied about his attendance, then his actions were reprehensible. If he told the truth, however, then the onus is on the professor to adjust his grade or leave it as is. I don't see how this is any different from any other discretionary adjustments such as curves.

Give me a break.
 
I got a C in my calc 1 class in college. The grades in the class were all based on 30 since we never had tests and we had a weekly quiz that was 30 points. The final counted as 4 quizes. I had a 24.3 out of 30 at the end of the class. That comes out to an 81, but the professor had his version of a curve, and to him that was a C. I was pissed needless to say.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Mwilding
since when is telling the professor that you went to every class an extenuating circumstance?

The extenuating circumstance was the scheduling of multiple exams on the same day.

If he lied about his attendance, then his actions were reprehensible. If he told the truth, however, then the onus is on the professor to adjust his grade or leave it as is. I don't see how this is any different from any other discretionary adjustments such as curves.

Give me a break.

I'm playing devil's advocate here. The truth is that he received a grade above what he actually earned, but if you want to fault anybody fault the professor for bending the rules.
 
Wow, listen to all the whiny "I got a B by 0.00000000000001%" B1tches in here.

GET OVER IT, IT IS JUST SCHOOL, IT REALLY DOESN'T MEAN SH!T.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Mwilding
since when is telling the professor that you went to every class an extenuating circumstance?

The extenuating circumstance was the scheduling of multiple exams on the same day.

If he lied about his attendance, then his actions were reprehensible. If he told the truth, however, then the onus is on the professor to adjust his grade or leave it as is. I don't see how this is any different from any other discretionary adjustments such as curves.

Give me a break.

I was once unlucky enough to get all 4 finals from the classes I was taking on the same day..... and it was Monday. I didn't have the typical study week most people get during finals. I was forced to study like a madman the last real week of class to be prepared. I wouldn't really say I deserved I higher grade on any of the finals because of that, but by the time I started my night class final I was about spent. However, I still did well on it (I actually got a better score on it than all the others), and I got to leave 3 days early.
 
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Wow, listen to all the whiny "I got a B by 0.00000000000001%" B1tches in here.

GET OVER IT, IT IS JUST SCHOOL, IT REALLY DOESN'T MEAN SH!T.

Agreed, I had a teacher in high school who really hated me because I slept through his class everyday and still got an A. One day he pulled me aside and showed me that I had gotten a 90.00004% in that quarter and he REALLY wanted to give me a B, but the school wouldn't let him (if you hadn't guessed it was a math professor, no English professor would have done the math to 5 decimal places). So if you don't want them lowering scores based on personal opinions then don't let them raise either.
 
I agree with Mwilding on this one. If an A is 100% - 90%, and you scored anything lower than 90%, you don't get an A. I applaud the professor if your grade stays what you earned.
 
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
I agree with Mwilding on this one. If an A is 100% - 90%, and you scored anything lower than 90%, you don't get an A. I applaud the professor if your grade stays what you earned.

better not applaud the prof then...
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

What's the big deal? He didn't go about it in a belligerant way, he presented his case, and got a favorable outcome. I guess you live in a world of black and white, with no grey areas.

 
Originally posted by: Shawn
My teacher replied:

Dear Shawn,
You ended up with 447 points.
I didn't take roll, so I don't know of your attendance officially,
but if you say you came to every class, then that counts for
something & I will trust you. I found two fill in the blanks
where you could earn a partial credit of 1 pt each, which
would bring your grade to 449. That's still technically
a B on the 500 point system outlined in the syllabus.
In these cases (which are B's that would round up
to an A using a 2 significant digit system), I can
assign an A-.
I will do that for you based on your good attendance record.
H Bass

YAY! 😀

That's a worthless professor. Anyone in my department would be laughed out of the office if they did that.
 
I was off 1 point out of like 2000 in a freshman econ class and the woman wouldn't budge. I sifted through all the homeworks and I compared the grading to one of my classmate's (who had a different TA) and I noticed that on one question, we had the same answer but he had more points than I did. She still wouldn't budge and even accused me of cheating on the homework. That ticked me off so I escalated to the department head and got my grade bumped from B+ to A-.
 
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
I agree with Mwilding on this one. If an A is 100% - 90%, and you scored anything lower than 90%, you don't get an A. I applaud the professor if your grade stays what you earned.

better not applaud the prof then...

I won't then.
 
I once needed a 54 on a final to keep my A in DiffEq. It was the last of my 6 finals, and I was too burnt out to study hard for it. The prof made a killer exam in which I got a 52 (ouch). He would not bump up my grade at all, despite that my lowest grade on the exams (we dropped our lowest one) was an 80, etc., etc. The kicker? When he tabulated the final grades, the distribution was too low due to his horrendous final. So he decided to give anyone who got a legit B on the final an overall A in the class regardless of any of their previous grades. This was a totally unstated policy.

Moral of the story:
Life isn't fair. You shouldn't expect to be awarded something you earned more than another. However, what you failed to achieve was within your grasp in the first place. Work harder if you truly want something.
 
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

What's the big deal? He didn't go about it in a belligerant way, he presented his case, and got a favorable outcome. I guess you live in a world of black and white, with no grey areas.

I would prefer to live in a world where people don't get special treatment because they bitch. Wah wah wah, I want an A, wah wah wah, I want free money from the government for not working and having 6 children.

Where does it end? What if I had an 89.3%? The next guy 89.2%, the next 89%? You get the idea.

The big deal is everyone feels they are entitled to everything. I am entitled to an A because I came to every class and had 3 finals, wah wah.
 
the skills he used to get that A- are more valuable in life that half the stuff he learned in that class.

unless he's gonna clone fish or something.
 
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

What's the big deal? He didn't go about it in a belligerant way, he presented his case, and got a favorable outcome. I guess you live in a world of black and white, with no grey areas.

I would prefer to live in a world where people don't get special treatment because they bitch. Wah wah wah, I want an A, wah wah wah, I want free money from the government for not working and having 6 children.

Where does it end? What if I had an 89.3%? The next guy 89.2%, the next 89%? You get the idea.

The big deal is everyone feels they are entitled to everything. I am entitled to an A because I came to every class and had 3 finals, wah wah.


I never got the feeling that the OP felt he was entitled to an A, just that he was sad he missed the grade by a very slim margin and he brought up some good points with the prof that swayed the prof's mind. The real world works that way, whether you like it or not. I don't see anything wrong with him trying to get a better grade, as opposed to being a sheep and letting things be. Learn to work the system 🙂
 
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

What's the big deal? He didn't go about it in a belligerant way, he presented his case, and got a favorable outcome. I guess you live in a world of black and white, with no grey areas.

I would prefer to live in a world where people don't get special treatment because they bitch. Wah wah wah, I want an A, wah wah wah, I want free money from the government for not working and having 6 children.

Where does it end? What if I had an 89.3%? The next guy 89.2%, the next 89%? You get the idea.

The big deal is everyone feels they are entitled to everything. I am entitled to an A because I came to every class and had 3 finals, wah wah.


I never got the feeling that the OP felt he was entitled to an A, just that he was sad he missed the grade by a very slim margin and he brought up some good points with the prof that swayed the prof's mind. The real world works that way, whether you like it or not. I don't see anything wrong with him trying to get a better grade, as opposed to being a sheep and letting things be. Learn to work the system 🙂

^ Exactly.

No scamming / trickery involved... he asked for a favor and was granted it.
 
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

What's the big deal? He didn't go about it in a belligerant way, he presented his case, and got a favorable outcome. I guess you live in a world of black and white, with no grey areas.

I would prefer to live in a world where people don't get special treatment because they bitch. Wah wah wah, I want an A, wah wah wah, I want free money from the government for not working and having 6 children.

Where does it end? What if I had an 89.3%? The next guy 89.2%, the next 89%? You get the idea.

The big deal is everyone feels they are entitled to everything. I am entitled to an A because I came to every class and had 3 finals, wah wah.


I never got the feeling that the OP felt he was entitled to an A, just that he was sad he missed the grade by a very slim margin and he brought up some good points with the prof that swayed the prof's mind. The real world works that way, whether you like it or not. I don't see anything wrong with him trying to get a better grade, as opposed to being a sheep and letting things be. Learn to work the system 🙂

Pay taxes, then encourage others to "work the system".

Better yet, own your own business.
 
This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read on ATOT. What a joke you guys are that are giving the OP a hard time.

WAY TO GO OP!
 
I hope Jack Ryan never needs anything done for him. There exists such a thing as courtesy in this world. Get off your fvcking high horse and realize that.
 
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Pay taxes, then encourage others to "work the system".

Better yet, own your own business.

I do pay my taxes, I know how to work the system there too, itemize ftw! 🙂 You seem like you have a bone to pick. Lighten up!
 
Originally posted by: benchiu
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

What's the big deal? He didn't go about it in a belligerant way, he presented his case, and got a favorable outcome. I guess you live in a world of black and white, with no grey areas.
no, i just come from a time and place where people did not lobby teachers for better grades.
 
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