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DAMNIT! My genetics professor just posted the grades for our final...

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Originally posted by: interchange
I once needed a 54 on a final to keep my A in DiffEq. It was the last of my 6 finals, and I was too burnt out to study hard for it. The prof made a killer exam in which I got a 52 (ouch). He would not bump up my grade at all, despite that my lowest grade on the exams (we dropped our lowest one) was an 80, etc., etc. The kicker? When he tabulated the final grades, the distribution was too low due to his horrendous final. So he decided to give anyone who got a legit B on the final an overall A in the class regardless of any of their previous grades. This was a totally unstated policy.

Moral of the story:
Life isn't fair. You shouldn't expect to be awarded something you earned more than another. However, what you failed to achieve was within your grasp in the first place. Work harder if you truly want something.

most univs have some policy on what a prof can/cannot do. i guess in this case he made a deviation from the policy that favored the student (not you unfortunately, but other students). so i guess he was still within his/her limits. otherwise i am sure you could have caused problems for him/her.
 
Take some consolation in knowing that this grade won't matter much once you are out in the real world. I remember working my ass off in my multi-variable Calculus class, which I took a year earlier than everyone in the class. I got 89.7% as my total grade and 90.0% was an A-. I spoke to the professor about it.

Professor: is 89.7% equal to 90.0%?
Me: No, it's off by 0.3%
Professor: Then you earned a B+, have a good spring break.
 
In high school most teachers had a policy where 89.5 and 79.5 round up.

So 0.5 is the cuttoff.

Ok, so I pulled some random crap where I got a 79.4985 according to my Ti-89. The problem with the grading program is it only shows the tenths digit, so it showed up as a 79.5 which was subsequently rounded to that B-. Whew. My worst class ever. I hated Spanish.
 
If something on the test was actually marked wrong, then you should get the points. But you shouldn't get points because you asked the prof for a "favour". That is what pisses me off -- I do all the work, and I don't ask for special favours, yet people whine and bitch about "special circumstances" to try and get ahead. The onus is on you to do well, not the prof. If you didn't get the 90, then you didn't deserve it... simple.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...
He narrowly missed an A in a course where a certain amount of points are based on a subjective determination of presentation. It's one thing to complain about getting an 89.4% in, say, a math course with cut-and-dry questions on all homework and tests, but this is a case of falling less than a full percentage short of a grade based, in part, on a subjective determination made by the professor. There is nothing wrong with asking the professor to reconsider in that instance.
 
This is the exact reason I dont like the GRADE Point system.
89% gets a B while 90% gets an A. Makes a lot of difference in your overall GPA
(81% gets a B and 89% gets a B also - how can anyone really differentiate when looking at grades ?)

One thing that I like about the Asian Education system is that they use PERCENTAGE grading scale. Your grades are reported as Percentage on transcripts etc.
89% gets reported as 89% and 90% gets reported as 90% (shows the true scores achieved)
 
I remember I had a prof for Algorithm Analysis who loved to give these impossible tests that only vaguely used things we went over. And on one test he gave us a 4x4 matrix. Up to then we'd only done 2x2 matrices and there was nothing but 2x2 matrices in the book. I did what I thought was logical, I worked it as 4 separate 2x2 matrices and combined those answers into a single 2x2 matrix and worked that. I provided and answer and that's all I could do. Well we get the test back and no one even got close on it. A couple people in the class argued that the problem technically never told you to solve anything and lobbied for partial credit on work done even though they only vaguely worked it and never came to an answer, they got 17 out of the 20 pts the question was worth. They worked it out in the same way I did, but I came to an answer though it was apparantly the wrong one. I talked to the teacher and asked for partial credit as well. He said my answer was wrong so no. So he gave people with no answer more credit than someone with a wrong answer despite the same work done. The difference is he didn't like and I knew it but he was the only professor teaching that class.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Does it feel good to get something you did not earn?

:roll:
:roll: right back at you. You didn't score the required number of points for an A and got it by doing the academic equivalent of crying to mommy. It's not like you objected to a subjective grading of a paper or claimed points you weren't awarded in error...

As long as the policy is applied to everyone equally, I don't see a problem.

Did you ever get a grade curved up, per chance?
 
Anyway, glad you got your prof to round up. As I said, I am one point away from an A in a presentation-based French course and I didn't get it. Nor did I get the one point necessary to give me an A in physics.

I royally got the shaft this semester.
 
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
I agree with Mwilding on this one. If an A is 100% - 90%, and you scored anything lower than 90%, you don't get an A. I applaud the professor if your grade stays what you earned.

better not applaud the prof then...

I won't then.

ok then
 
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
I agree with Mwilding on this one. If an A is 100% - 90%, and you scored anything lower than 90%, you don't get an A. I applaud the professor if your grade stays what you earned.

better not applaud the prof then...

I won't then.

ok then

How childish. I should have known not to come here with an opinion that is different than "taking advantage of everything in life".

It is amazing how a generation can change how people view the world. I am not old by any means, but even as I grew up I didn't expect to be coddled like all of you are today.

I guess it is true that most college students are left-wingers until they hit real life and see the truth.
 
Originally posted by: Shawn
I got an 83. I needed an 84 on the final to get an A in the class. My final grade is an 89.4%. FVCK!!!!!!

I just sent my professor an e-mail telling him that I had 3 finals on the same day and that that was my lowest grade yet. I usually do better on the tests. I went to every single class and even did most of the extra credit opportunities. Hopefully he'll show mercy and bump me up 0.1%. 🙁

next time, get an 84....how hard is it?
 
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Originally posted by: snoopdoug1
Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
I agree with Mwilding on this one. If an A is 100% - 90%, and you scored anything lower than 90%, you don't get an A. I applaud the professor if your grade stays what you earned.

better not applaud the prof then...

I won't then.

ok then

How childish. I should have known not to come here with an opinion that is different than "taking advantage of everything in life".

It is amazing how a generation can change how people view the world. I am not old by any means, but even as I grew up I didn't expect to be coddled like all of you are today.

I guess it is true that most college students are left-wingers until they hit real life and see the truth.

im 21 and share your opinion. it isnt as much my generation as it is the morons representing it. i cant stand it when people lobby for an A when they are very close. WORK HARDER. if you earned an A, you will get an A. if you didnt, then you shouldnt get an A no matter which strings you pull.
 
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
im 21 and share your opinion. it isnt as much my generation as it is the morons representing it. i cant stand it when people lobby for an A when they are very close. WORK HARDER. if you earned an A, you will get an A. if you didnt, then you shouldnt get an A no matter which strings you pull.

I wish .01% of my students had your attitude instead of threatening law suits or "taking it to the dean."
 
generally professors will have percentages of that class that will receive a certain grade 10% A, 30% B etc.. etc.. they just order the final results of the class then the they find where the cutoff points are, in which case grubbing doesn't help alot.

the worste are pre-med (aka pre burger king) whose grades are so overinflated and pointgrubbed due to med school admission requirements.

why is it 80% of premed classes will get A's, but in say a hardcore engineering class maybe 10% or less might get A's.
 
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