Vic
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Well... evil begins with the objectification of other human beings for the sake of selfish intentions, i.e. "the ends justify the means," etc.
Anyway, it's amusing that you're trying to blow off my disgust for your outspoken personal desire for the death of every man, woman, and child of the human race as pretentious morality on my part.
How am I trolling? I've said just that since the beginning, that I would happily go if most/everyone else did too. It's an opinion, and it might be a crap one to you and you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is crap, but leave the infantile trolling rubbish out thanks.
I'm not just trying to "blow it off," you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is disgusting. I just don't see why it's such a problem for you.Originally posted by: Vic
Anyway, it's amusing that you're trying to blow off my disgust for your outspoken personal desire for the death of every man, woman, and child of the human race as pretentious morality on my part.
Isn't there a saying that goes; "I might not like what he says, but I'll defend his right to say it"?
Vic
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The only way you would not be trolling would be if you could admit that simple logic demands -- in order to support your argument -- that you be willing to go first as well as last. Otherwise, you're just chickensh!t.
To be clear here, I am not trying to push you into committing suicide. Quite the opposite. I'm just trying to show you how ridiculous your argument is. Externalizaton does not exist. What exists, exists, and nothing else besides. You cannot view as though from outside something that you are a part of. Humanity's evil is matched solely by its goodness, and vice versa, for such is how good and evil are defined. That you choose to judge humanity solely by its evil, and proclaim the sentence of death for all upon it, is the fault of your own perception and nothing more.
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
How am I trolling? I've said just that since the beginning, that I would happily go if most/everyone else did too. It's an opinion, and it might be a crap one to you and you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is crap, but leave the infantile trolling rubbish out thanks.
I'm not just trying to "blow it off," you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is disgusting. I just don't see why it's such a problem for you.Originally posted by: Vic
Anyway, it's amusing that you're trying to blow off my disgust for your outspoken personal desire for the death of every man, woman, and child of the human race as pretentious morality on my part.
Isn't there a saying that goes; "I might not like what he says, but I'll defend his right to say it"?
Well, if you're not trolling, i hope you don't go committing mass murder or cause mass suicide. You have serious issues.
I'm not trolling, I assure you, but you have to understand that I never said my opinion was logical in the first place. This isn't debate club, it's ATOT.
It's not an argument, it's an opinion. I know you don't like it, but I don't know why you feel so threatened by it that you must challenge it at every turn and even try to take it into the realms of "logical debate" when my opinion is not the slightest bit logical.
Oh, I am aware.
Vic
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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
How am I trolling? I've said just that since the beginning, that I would happily go if most/everyone else did too. It's an opinion, and it might be a crap one to you and you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is crap, but leave the infantile trolling rubbish out thanks.
I'm not just trying to "blow it off," you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is disgusting. I just don't see why it's such a problem for you.Originally posted by: Vic
Anyway, it's amusing that you're trying to blow off my disgust for your outspoken personal desire for the death of every man, woman, and child of the human race as pretentious morality on my part.
Isn't there a saying that goes; "I might not like what he says, but I'll defend his right to say it"?
Well, if you're not trolling, i hope you don't go committing mass murder or cause mass suicide. You have serious issues.
Nah. That's not it. Having had his teenage angst ridiculed, he now thinks that that the right to be entitled to his own opinion includes the right to not have that opinion ridiculed no matter how ridiculous it might be.
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
How am I trolling? I've said just that since the beginning, that I would happily go if most/everyone else did too. It's an opinion, and it might be a crap one to you and you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is crap, but leave the infantile trolling rubbish out thanks.
I'm not just trying to "blow it off," you're entitled to your opinion that my opinion is disgusting. I just don't see why it's such a problem for you.Originally posted by: Vic
Anyway, it's amusing that you're trying to blow off my disgust for your outspoken personal desire for the death of every man, woman, and child of the human race as pretentious morality on my part.
Isn't there a saying that goes; "I might not like what he says, but I'll defend his right to say it"?
Well, if you're not trolling, i hope you don't go committing mass murder or cause mass suicide. You have serious issues.
Nah. That's not it. Having had his teenage angst ridiculed, he now thinks that that the right to be entitled to his own opinion includes the right to not have that opinion ridiculed no matter how ridiculous it might be.
Ahh, makes sense now. Silly kids these days, seems like they were never taught consequences.
Since you're so uppity about turning this into logical debate, you might want to go and look up ad hominem fallacy.
AMDZen
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Mass enlightenment?
Like, hallowed are the Ori Ascension type enlightenment?
Most other cultures are happy the way they are, killing their women for kissing another man or some douche for stealing his neighbors sheep are customs of people who refuse to change. That certainly doesn't inspire any kind of enlightenment. Your own lifestyle is condemned in any country that isn't westernized. Hell you might of even been decapitated.
It isn't our fault just because they say it is. Maybe some things can be blamed on the west, but thats opening up a whole new can of worms.
Vic
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Who said I was "threatened" by your own opinion? Now, considered that you said you wanted to see all of humanity killed, I'm sure most people would believe that I could be justified in feeling threatened (for obvious reasons), but as you're just some whiner on the internet, it would be stupid to do so. You're really grasping at straws now, aren't you? What I am doing is making an example of you for educational purposes (and personal sadistic amusement, it's true). Your inherent and irrevocable right to hold an opinion does not include the right to not have to defend it if it's idiotic.
Ok this isn't the borg. For us to reach the next step we can't operate independent of each other, that is the problem now. We need to work together twords the greater good, which would benefit all of us in the end but most people are too self-consumed to care.
If you want to make an example of me, you might want to try leading by example. On the one hand you try to make a logical debate out of my illogical opinion, and now you resort to ad hominem type logical fallacies. Make your mind up.
Let's see, you've called me "chickensh!t" and a "whiner" with "teenaged angst." You can't back up those attacks as fact, so your concession is accepted.
Don't be a hypocrite. I have an opinion you don't like and you feel some need to attack it, get over it.
Good read. Thanks for the link. Now the puzzle fits together in my mind, it was too early in the morning earlier.
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Vic
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What is this "greater good" which would benefit all of us if it does not benefit at least one of us?
Who's talking about operating independent of each other? Obviously to help one is to help all. What's being exposed here is that some people have ultra-selfish desires for some personal vision of utopia and then try to lie to others (as they have lied to themselves) about their personal opinion being for the "greater good" of all. It's this delusion that leads to the arguments of the "greater good" involving weeding out undesirables (i.e. eugenics) or for all the humanity to be exterminated.
Vic
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Huh? I backed up every one of those with fact and sound argument. You need to check yourself.
Your "opinion" is that you want every man, woman, and child to die and that you will be able to die happy only after you've gotten to witness that. That's what you're defending. These are your own words.
Wow... just... wow. What people will argue and defend behind the anonymity of the internet never ceases to amaze me, not even after all these years...
You resorted to name-calling, you can't back those up as fact which makes them ad hominem attacks. You're a hypocrite. Try to back out of it now, but you're a hypocrite.
Maybe you should also follow your own advice, and actually read the quote you've put in your signature instead of acting like some kind of thought police.
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