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AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Humans are de-evolving. Too many people in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Exactly! It seems like we are de-evolving into a state of "whats best for me" and not "whats best for us" which is being driven by todays popular society.

Actually, I was thinking about it more from a anthropology point of view. My wife has a degree in it, after all, and we discuss it a lot. When the human race started eating so much mess, and less berries, it was the worst decision. And the way that genetic diseases are treated now, keeps them in the gene pool.

Are you talking about, say Chickens being locked up? Or are you just making some kind of Vegan argument?

Back to the topic at hand.

Personally, I agree that the state of the human race is better then its ever been. At the same time, it does seem like there are more stupid people in the world. But I've realized that our technological lifestyle has simply bred more idiots.

See, people are technologically lazy. They all want the newest and greatest Tech, cell phone, etc. but besides the techy's, people don't want to learn about that new tech or learn anything new to use it. Techy's like the new technology simply TO learn new things. Everyone else just wants to push button A, or button B and have it do everything for them. Tech people seem lazy in a sense too, but in reality we are mentally learning, constantly seeking knowledge. Where as the other 90% of the populace only cares that its got an easy button. Its just like those commercials, thats what I think everytime I see a Mac commercial - I think they need to get together and market with Staples. Together they could breed the world's most stupid and lazy people.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Who is "us" but a collection of "me's"? That is the fallacy in the OP's reasoning. He falsely assumes that the collective operates independent of the indiviudals that comprise it.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Zolty
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Humans are de-evolving. Too many people in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Exactly! It seems like we are de-evolving into a state of "whats best for me" and not "whats best for us" which is being driven by todays popular society.

Actually, I was thinking about it more from a anthropology point of view. My wife has a degree in it, after all, and we discuss it a lot. When the human race started eating so much mess, and less berries, it was the worst decision. And the way that genetic diseases are treated now, keeps them in the gene pool.



You know who else shared your point of view....



the Nazis.

What?!?

Eugenics
 

Ulfhednar

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What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.

We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.

We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
Kindly begin with yourself.
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.

We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
Kindly begin with yourself.
And miss the show?!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.

We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
Kindly begin with yourself.
And miss the show?!
Are you saying that you are not part of the human race? That you are not one of those "every man, woman and child" that you want to see "laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool"?

:roll:
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: Vic
Are you saying that you are not part of the human race? That you are not one of those "every man, woman and child" that you want to see "laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool"?

:roll:
I'll gladly go, when I can rest knowing that most of them went before me.

Why does my opinion bother you so much? :confused:
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Vic
Are you saying that you are not part of the human race? That you are not one of those "every man, woman and child" that you want to see "laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool"?

:roll:
I'll gladly go, when I can rest knowing that most of them went before me.

Why does my opinion bother you so much? :confused:
Because it is disgusting. You're externalizing your own self-hatred and suicidal desires onto the rest of humanity (either that or you're trolling). How can be so detached and ignorant that you can't see that?

edit: and who said I was bothered by you? I simply told you to do to yourself what you want to see done to everyone else. My suggestion was entirely unemotional. In response, you exposed your own inner emotions and cowardice that were certain to exist there.
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: Vic
Because it is disgusting. You're externalizing your own self-hatred and suicidal desires onto the rest of humanity (either that or you're trolling). How can be so detached and ignorant that you can't see that?
I don't hate myself, I just hate most people, and I most certainly am not trolling.

But I am entitled to my opinion, and one opinion shouldn't bother you anyway. Just rest assured that your moral compass is so much more accurate than mine is, and feel good about yourself.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.

Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.
 

lyssword

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I think it will be a race of human ingenuity, to expand to other planets other than earth. In the next 100 years, there will still be enough space to live comfortably on earth, but the humans better find interplanetary expansion soon after that :) Instead of looking at how we should kill each other off, we should look for ways to support more of us :)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Vic
Because it is disgusting. You're externalizing your own self-hatred and suicidal desires onto the rest of humanity (either that or you're trolling). How can be so detached and ignorant that you can't see that?
I don't hate myself, I just hate most people, and I most certainly am not trolling.

But I am entitled to my opinion, and one opinion shouldn't bother you anyway. Just rest assured that your moral compass is so much more accurate than mine is, and feel good about yourself.
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).

Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: mobiblu
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Humans are de-evolving. Too many people in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Exactly! It seems like we are de-evolving into a state of "whats best for me" and not "whats best for us" which is being driven by todays popular society.


Communism FTW!!!

Communism FTDeath
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.
What is utopia but an opinion? For example, your opinion of utopia might involve a harem of beautiful women servicing you constantly, but would that be the women's idea of utopia? Therefore, how could those 2 conflicting ideals ever merge into a single reality?
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Armitage
Are you suggesting that we're on a downward slope in that regard?
If anything, I'd say that we are probably at a high point historically.

I agree. If anything, things are better than ever.

How so?

Take a look historically - the mass slaughter of the two world wars, the holocaust and russian purges, mass slavery and oppression of the colonial era. Europe alone was in a constant cycle of wars for centuries. I could go on. Historically speaking, the world is largely at peace and more people are freer and more prosperous then possibly at any time in history.


Ahh, the dillusions of not living in 3rd world countries.
While Europe & north america may be in better condition and at peace, the other 65% of the world:South & Central America, The middle and far east, asia, & africa are still under great deals of poverty, war, famine, and disease.


Technology has improved, but we are no closer to a worldwide utopia than we were 2 centuries ago.

Ahh, the dillusions of not living 500 years ago...:roll:
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: Vic
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).
You make a very good point, I must hate myself somewhat if I hate most people as I am after all a person. That doesn't change my view though, sorry.

Originally posted by: Vic
Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
I don't claim not to be one, I even said that I'll go gladly when I know many more go before/with me. If anyone's being defensive it's you, because you immediately decided to jump all over my opinion as if it actually harms you in some way.

Like I said; Just give yourself a pat on the back, you're obviously a shining example of morality and I am obviously just disgusting.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.
What is utopia but an opinion? For example, your opinion of utopia might involve a harem of beautiful women servicing you constantly, but would that be the women's idea of utopia? Therefore, how could those 2 conflicting ideals ever merge into a single reality?

Because in my utopia, not only are the women servicing your every need and desire, but those women enjoy it and wouldn't have it any other way.

Which is further proof, actually, that Utopia as an idea altogether is rediculous.

But thats also what I feel about the whole Heaven and Hell argument. In fact, I think I stopped believing in God and going to church partly because of the way Heaven is portrayed.
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Vic
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).
You make a very good point, I must hate myself somewhat if I hate most people as I am after all a person. That doesn't change my view though, sorry.

Originally posted by: Vic
Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
I don't claim not to be one, I even said that I'll go gladly when I know many more go before/with me. If anyone's being defensive it's you, because you immediately decided to jump all over my opinion as if it actually harms you in some way.

Like I said; Just give yourself a pat on the back, you're obviously a shining example of morality and I am obviously just disgusting.

You hate all the people, but think about it, without other people you WOULD NOT EXIST. not even talking about conception, I mean after birth you would die from starvation. You would not learn a language. Without other people you would be simply.. nothing
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.
What is utopia but an opinion? For example, your opinion of utopia might involve a harem of beautiful women servicing you constantly, but would that be the women's idea of utopia? Therefore, how could those 2 conflicting ideals ever merge into a single reality?

72 virgins FTW!!! Islam here I cum!
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: lyssword
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
Originally posted by: Vic
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).
You make a very good point, I must hate myself somewhat if I hate most people as I am after all a person. That doesn't change my view though, sorry.

Originally posted by: Vic
Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
I don't claim not to be one, I even said that I'll go gladly when I know many more go before/with me. If anyone's being defensive it's you, because you immediately decided to jump all over my opinion as if it actually harms you in some way.

Like I said; Just give yourself a pat on the back, you're obviously a shining example of morality and I am obviously just disgusting.

You hate all the people, but think about it, without other people you WOULD NOT EXIST. not even talking about conception, I mean after birth you would die from starvation. You would not learn a language. Without other people you would be simply.. nothing

Thats not really true at all. Well, for most people it would be - but there are people who might like the idea of existing alone. And you certainly wouldn't die from starvation. I realize most people would because most people are lazy and stupid (as expressed in my first post of this thread) however there are people out there who can survive under such circumstances.