Originally posted by: Mucho
You mean the end is near?
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Humans are de-evolving. Too many people in the shallow end of the gene pool.
Exactly! It seems like we are de-evolving into a state of "whats best for me" and not "whats best for us" which is being driven by todays popular society.
Actually, I was thinking about it more from a anthropology point of view. My wife has a degree in it, after all, and we discuss it a lot. When the human race started eating so much mess, and less berries, it was the worst decision. And the way that genetic diseases are treated now, keeps them in the gene pool.
Who is "us" but a collection of "me's"? That is the fallacy in the OP's reasoning. He falsely assumes that the collective operates independent of the indiviudals that comprise it.Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Zolty
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Humans are de-evolving. Too many people in the shallow end of the gene pool.
Exactly! It seems like we are de-evolving into a state of "whats best for me" and not "whats best for us" which is being driven by todays popular society.
Actually, I was thinking about it more from a anthropology point of view. My wife has a degree in it, after all, and we discuss it a lot. When the human race started eating so much mess, and less berries, it was the worst decision. And the way that genetic diseases are treated now, keeps them in the gene pool.
You know who else shared your point of view....
the Nazis.
What?!?
Kindly begin with yourself.Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.
We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
And miss the show?!Originally posted by: Vic
Kindly begin with yourself.Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.
We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
Are you saying that you are not part of the human race? That you are not one of those "every man, woman and child" that you want to see "laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool"?Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
And miss the show?!Originally posted by: Vic
Kindly begin with yourself.Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
What the human race needs is obliterating with disease, famine and nuclear weapons. All at once.
We've lost our way, and I reserve the right to complain until every man, woman and child is laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool.
I'll gladly go, when I can rest knowing that most of them went before me.Originally posted by: Vic
Are you saying that you are not part of the human race? That you are not one of those "every man, woman and child" that you want to see "laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool"?
:roll:
Because it is disgusting. You're externalizing your own self-hatred and suicidal desires onto the rest of humanity (either that or you're trolling). How can be so detached and ignorant that you can't see that?Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
I'll gladly go, when I can rest knowing that most of them went before me.Originally posted by: Vic
Are you saying that you are not part of the human race? That you are not one of those "every man, woman and child" that you want to see "laying dead in their own decaying corpse pool"?
:roll:
Why does my opinion bother you so much?![]()
I don't hate myself, I just hate most people, and I most certainly am not trolling.Originally posted by: Vic
Because it is disgusting. You're externalizing your own self-hatred and suicidal desires onto the rest of humanity (either that or you're trolling). How can be so detached and ignorant that you can't see that?
Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
I don't hate myself, I just hate most people, and I most certainly am not trolling.Originally posted by: Vic
Because it is disgusting. You're externalizing your own self-hatred and suicidal desires onto the rest of humanity (either that or you're trolling). How can be so detached and ignorant that you can't see that?
But I am entitled to my opinion, and one opinion shouldn't bother you anyway. Just rest assured that your moral compass is so much more accurate than mine is, and feel good about yourself.
Originally posted by: mobiblu
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Humans are de-evolving. Too many people in the shallow end of the gene pool.
Exactly! It seems like we are de-evolving into a state of "whats best for me" and not "whats best for us" which is being driven by todays popular society.
Communism FTW!!!
What is utopia but an opinion? For example, your opinion of utopia might involve a harem of beautiful women servicing you constantly, but would that be the women's idea of utopia? Therefore, how could those 2 conflicting ideals ever merge into a single reality?Originally posted by: Excelsior
Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Originally posted by: jmdeathsquad
the earth dies screaming....
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Armitage
Are you suggesting that we're on a downward slope in that regard?
If anything, I'd say that we are probably at a high point historically.
I agree. If anything, things are better than ever.
How so?
Take a look historically - the mass slaughter of the two world wars, the holocaust and russian purges, mass slavery and oppression of the colonial era. Europe alone was in a constant cycle of wars for centuries. I could go on. Historically speaking, the world is largely at peace and more people are freer and more prosperous then possibly at any time in history.
Ahh, the dillusions of not living in 3rd world countries.
While Europe & north america may be in better condition and at peace, the other 65% of the world:South & Central America, The middle and far east, asia, & africa are still under great deals of poverty, war, famine, and disease.
Technology has improved, but we are no closer to a worldwide utopia than we were 2 centuries ago.
You make a very good point, I must hate myself somewhat if I hate most people as I am after all a person. That doesn't change my view though, sorry.Originally posted by: Vic
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).
I don't claim not to be one, I even said that I'll go gladly when I know many more go before/with me. If anyone's being defensive it's you, because you immediately decided to jump all over my opinion as if it actually harms you in some way.Originally posted by: Vic
Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
Originally posted by: Vic
What is utopia but an opinion? For example, your opinion of utopia might involve a harem of beautiful women servicing you constantly, but would that be the women's idea of utopia? Therefore, how could those 2 conflicting ideals ever merge into a single reality?Originally posted by: Excelsior
Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
You make a very good point, I must hate myself somewhat if I hate most people as I am after all a person. That doesn't change my view though, sorry.Originally posted by: Vic
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).
I don't claim not to be one, I even said that I'll go gladly when I know many more go before/with me. If anyone's being defensive it's you, because you immediately decided to jump all over my opinion as if it actually harms you in some way.Originally posted by: Vic
Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
Like I said; Just give yourself a pat on the back, you're obviously a shining example of morality and I am obviously just disgusting.
Originally posted by: Vic
What is utopia but an opinion? For example, your opinion of utopia might involve a harem of beautiful women servicing you constantly, but would that be the women's idea of utopia? Therefore, how could those 2 conflicting ideals ever merge into a single reality?Originally posted by: Excelsior
Yep. Which is precisely why mankind will never have a utopia.Originally posted by: Platypus
I don't believe human nature will EVER work on a 'what's good for us' instead of 'what's good for me' system.. just not possible.
Originally posted by: lyssword
Originally posted by: Ulfhednar
You make a very good point, I must hate myself somewhat if I hate most people as I am after all a person. That doesn't change my view though, sorry.Originally posted by: Vic
Who are those "most people" that you hate if not a personal representation? Exactly what is it that you hate about that does not represent self-hatred? More to the point: can a human being feel hatred without self-hatred? The answer to that last one is no (of course).
I don't claim not to be one, I even said that I'll go gladly when I know many more go before/with me. If anyone's being defensive it's you, because you immediately decided to jump all over my opinion as if it actually harms you in some way.Originally posted by: Vic
Which must explain your defensiveness. I'm not bothered by your own opinion. Just like your asshole, you're entitled to have and keep it. I certainly wouldn't want to take it away when it's so fun to ridicule it. Nor am I expressing morality. This is logic. You said you wanted every human being to die as though you weren't one.
Like I said; Just give yourself a pat on the back, you're obviously a shining example of morality and I am obviously just disgusting.
You hate all the people, but think about it, without other people you WOULD NOT EXIST. not even talking about conception, I mean after birth you would die from starvation. You would not learn a language. Without other people you would be simply.. nothing