Crysis Warhead crippled with DRM

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911paramedic

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Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT
 

nitromullet

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from: http://crymod.com/thread.php?t...d6bddd1feb58a058a193e4

Introduction
As you will be aware by now we released an F.A.Q. explaining far more details about the DRM that is used on Crysis Warhead. Following on from the information we gave you last night we're also pleased to be able to tell you that EA have sent us the following message to pass on to you guys:

quote:
"EA is expediting development of a system that will allow consumers to de-authorize machines and move authorizations to new machines. This system will effectively give you direct control to manage your authorizations between an unlimited number of different machines without having to contact EA customer service."


Conclusion
Please keep in mind that we cannot commit to a specific time frame or give you a date on when this will be available, but it is definitely being worked on.

We hope that this will really keep you guys happy and that you can understand that we have been listening to your concerns and are trying to make as much progress as possible to help you all out as best we can.


Related Links:
- Crysis Warhead Copy Protection F.A.Q.
- Crymod Team & EA

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-Eddy
Lead Community Manager
Crytek

If they implement something like that (soon), I think I could live with that. I have no qualms with EA/Crytek trying to protect their intellectual property. Although, it still requires me to manage my activations and essentially prove that I'm not a thief just because I paid for their game.
 

AdamK47

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: AdamK47
I'm not totally against DRM. What I'm against (along with many many others) is the limit on the number of installs that can be done. I have hundreds of games and like to keep them installed and ready for play. Perhaps EA will do as 2K has done with BioShock. 2K removed this limitation caused by SecuROM not too long ago.

You have a link to this?

EA has said they intend to release a 'deactivation' tool for Spore to allow the customer to remove activations without calling EA, but there's no release date yet. And it won't make a difference if EA shuts down the activation servers. What they need is a patch, preferably a re-release, with no DRM at all.

Link
 

Beev

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I swear to god that SecuROM screen didn't pop up for my Steam installation. I wonder if it snuck it's way in...
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wow, so you get Steam DRM AND EA DRM.
FREAKING SWEET DEAL MAN.

Yea, quite the value-add for the consumer there. 3 pieces of software (or two pieces and one piece of malware) for the price of 1!!!

Edit: Bonus! We get Gamespy Comrade and Punkbuster too! Although I think Punkbuster is actually a descent piece of software and most folks have it installed anyway.

Is Gamespy Comrade optional like I've seen it on most game installs, or is it mandatory for MP?
 

drebo

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.
 

Qbah

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As a side note, as with Crysis, low 20ish is ok - I guess. I don't have problems aiming etc. The hickups aren't very frequent (mostly during turning or heavy firefights - those are very frequent though :p) and the game's a lot of fun. So I don't regret buying it in the end, however I want to be informed about the things that are required in order to play a game (ie. SecuROM, GameSpy, Punkbuster) as it leaves a bad taste in the end. It's not that it was a print or w/e, it was a Steam page... Ohh and no pre-ordering for me for future Steam games, to that I will stick.

So, if you want cool gameplay and can digest all the other crap, Crysis Warhead won't disappoint :)
 

extra

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I bought the game, it plays great, i'm having a blast (i bought it over steam). It's very unfortunate about the drm, i dont like having a rootkit on my machine.. so here's the deal

1. buy the game, enjoy it.
2. when a pirated copy comes out with a crack that no longer has drm, i will download and install that one instead.
 

ViviTheMage

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Originally posted by: extra
I bought the game, it plays great, i'm having a blast (i bought it over steam). It's very unfortunate about the drm, i dont like having a rootkit on my machine.. so here's the deal

1. buy the game, enjoy it.
2. when a pirated copy comes out with a crack that no longer has drm, i will download and install that one instead.

hehehe, got my copy already.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

Your an idiot.

Reformatting is THE best way to improve PC performance. Even Cleaning out all the crap even from surfing the web is almost impossible without a reformat. I say YOUR an total moron for thinking formating is such a big deal, because any true PC enthusiast knows reformatting is nearly always a good and smart thing to do regularly.
 

imported_apocalypse

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Steam is not secure enough for them? Or are they worried that everyone is going to share out their precious steam accounts with many purchased games, to all their 100 trusted friends so everyone can play in offline mode? :confused:
 

Martimus

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Originally posted by: sticks435
Originally posted by: duragezic
You should've posted this in the thread where there is already a discussion going on, keep it all in one place I mean. Anyway unlike what a lot of people for some reason think, formatting your computer monthly (which sounds like they have other issues to deal with) isn't going to count for more than one activation. Although it is surprising to see the same thing with Steam. Is that a first?

I thought about that, but then I also thought that someone who didn't read the other thread would want this front and center, since it was such a major question. Mods, feel free to merge it if you like.

I prefer it this way. I hate the 50 page long threads that have all of the information in them. Breaking them out by major points like this is much better. (You can actually get something out of it.)
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

actually no

5 reformats caused by hardware failure ( 2HDDs a Mobo, and 2 Vid cards)
1 caused myself trying to OC my CPU too much go go corrupted system files
1 when i decided to go from windows XP- windows vista 64 and then again because vista SP1 would not install and i had to reformat to get it to go

the only 1 of those 8 that was truly my own fault was trying to OC the CPU more then i should have

all 5 hardware failures just happened randomally

 

mb

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

Your an idiot.

Reformatting is THE best way to improve PC performance. Even Cleaning out all the crap even from surfing the web is almost impossible without a reformat. I say YOUR an total moron for thinking formating is such a big deal, because any true PC enthusiast knows reformatting is nearly always a good and smart thing to do regularly.

The ironing is delicious.

 

KeithTalent

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Merged the Crysis Warhead DRM threads.

PC Gaming Moderator
KeithTalent
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

Actually, if you keep your machine in order, it is often faster to reinstall than it is hunting down remnants of viruses, etc. Not to mention you know you have a clean install after the fact. I reinstall maybe every 4 months or so.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

actually no

5 reformats caused by hardware failure ( 2HDDs a Mobo, and 2 Vid cards)
1 caused myself trying to OC my CPU too much go go corrupted system files
1 when i decided to go from windows XP- windows vista 64 and then again because vista SP1 would not install and i had to reformat to get it to go

the only 1 of those 8 that was truly my own fault was trying to OC the CPU more then i should have

all 5 hardware failures just happened randomally

You don't need to reformat due to hardware failure...unless your OS drive is the one which goes obviously.
And assuming your dead components were within warranty, I would assume they got replaced like for like, which means you definitely don't need to reformat (and they wouldn't count as hardware changes either I'd assume since it's the same hardware).
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

actually no

5 reformats caused by hardware failure ( 2HDDs a Mobo, and 2 Vid cards)
1 caused myself trying to OC my CPU too much go go corrupted system files
1 when i decided to go from windows XP- windows vista 64 and then again because vista SP1 would not install and i had to reformat to get it to go

the only 1 of those 8 that was truly my own fault was trying to OC the CPU more then i should have

all 5 hardware failures just happened randomally

You don't need to reformat due to hardware failure...unless your OS drive is the one which goes obviously.
And assuming your dead components were within warranty, I would assume they got replaced like for like, which means you definitely don't need to reformat (and they wouldn't count as hardware changes either I'd assume since it's the same hardware).


my luck is so good the HDD failures ONLY happen to the OS drive
and windows is not that smart, i had to call and reactivate windows because i updated sound card drivers :/

formatted after the 1st card died got the same card back, when it failed i changed brands and formatted again, did i have to do that no not really however ive had shit luck when going from ATI-nvidia before and its just easier to reinstall
 

911paramedic

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Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

Reformatting cleans the registry and allows my machine to run the way it should. There are too many software vendors that create buggy installs and bad code that, simply put, craps out your box. I, unlike you apparently, like to have a clean system that is optimized fully. Updating drivers over time also mucks up the registry, I never said anything about viruses or the like. (And I missed the HAD to part, I reformat about two or three times a year.)

Thanks for your totally uninformed criticism though, greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:
 

Modelworks

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You guys that are reformatting and installing the OS over and over need to look at making backup images.
 

flashbacck

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Originally posted by: drebo
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: Anubis
lol i love how the 2nd post says 5 activations should last 2 years.... ive had to reformat more times then that in the past 8 months

QFT

You had to reformat? No, the only thing forcing you to reformat was your own stupidity. What, did you get a virus that you were too lazy to clean out? Spyware? The only reason you HAVE to reformat is because you screwed something up, and if you're doing that more than 5 times in 8 months, it might be time for you to ditch the computer, as you're obviously incapable of running the damn thing.

While I don't support DRM in computer games, you should not be blaming EA for your own stupidity.

oh SNAP
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Any game I've considered worth buying I've installed more than 5 times since I bought it. Not even going to consider buying a game that implements this junk since I have to assume that even if it's worth the money it won't be worth the hassle years down the line. I'm just now getting the cash to throw into some games of questionable worth, but this junk irks me the wrong way.
 

drebo

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Reformatting cleans the registry and allows my machine to run the way it should. There are too many software vendors that create buggy installs and bad code that, simply put, craps out your box. I, unlike you apparently, like to have a clean system that is optimized fully. Updating drivers over time also mucks up the registry, I never said anything about viruses or the like. (And I missed the HAD to part, I reformat about two or three times a year.)

Thanks for your totally uninformed criticism though, greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:

If you are careful about the way you use your computer, run a good antivirus application, and, in general, are not a moron, your registry will not get "mucked up". It doesn't do that on its own. Your computer will only get messed up if you do something that allows it to get messed up (go to porn sites and get crapware installed on your computer, etc). Everyday operation of your system will NOT screw with the registry.

As for drivers, check out drivercleaner.

I've been running the same hardware for 2.5 years now, and have only reformatted once, which was entirely my own fault. I screwed my video codecs up to the point where the Zune software (crappy as it is) would not allow me to transfer any video to my Zune. Before and after that, my computer runs just as well, gets just as high framerates, and runs just as smooth as it did the day I installed it.

As I said: the only reason you will ever NEED to reinstall Windows is because you screwed something up. You may want to reinstall because of some sort of masochistic desire or placebo effect that makes you think reinstalling solves world hunger. But you definitely do not need to reinstall your operating system.