Crysis 3.....

[sigurros81]

Yeah thats not the way a bow works. For instance, If you took an average joe, and the hulk, and had them both fire the same bow, the impact force is going to be identical between them. The one way what you say could work is if the bow itself was far heavier. But then it would always require more strength to pull it back. But more power behind the arrow would only help so much as the ballistics of the arrow itself is its biggest limiting factor in terms of speed and distance.

Thanks for the pro-tip brah.

 

[sigurros81]

What if this bow shoots lasers for arrows.

That's pulling into a bit too much into the realm of implausibility, you're just letting your imagination running wild now.

 

[Red Storm]

What if this bow shoots lasers for arrows.

Then it's even more outrageous.

"We have the technology to create laser ammunition! However, in the process we've lost the means to design triggers and so the lasers must be fired with a traditional bowstring. Badass!"

"Here is your other weapon. It's a missile! But not just any old missile, we removed the engine and replaced it with a sword handle. Maximum power!"

If a game incorporates zero gravity as part of the gameplay and it's actually fun, then hell yeah I'm all for it :awe:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/18110/

(I don't know if it's fun, but it has zero gravity)

 

[gothamhunter]

Yeah thats not the way a bow works. For instance, If you took an average joe, and the hulk, and had them both fire the same bow, the impact force is going to be identical between them. The one way what you say could work is if the bow itself was far heavier. But then it would always require more strength to pull it back. But more power behind the arrow would only help so much as the ballistics of the arrow itself is its biggest limiting factor in terms of speed and distance.

idk...if my wife and I both shoot the same bow, I have a feeling the force of impact will be different :awe:

 

[Anteaus]

idk...if my wife and I both shoot the same bow, I have a feeling the force of impact will be different :awe:

The power of the bow is based on how much potential energy can be stored. Regardless of who pulls the bow back, if both people pull the string back to the same position, the bow will transfer the same amount of energy to the arrow.

A stronger person can shoot and arrow farther by using a larger bow that is capable of more potential energy. If the bow is the same, the energy capability is the same.

The presumption in Crysis is that the powersuit would allow for using a much more powerful bow that the average person can't use, but my question is....why? If guns aren't effective enough to take down whatever he's shooting at, an arrow is laughable as it is slow and useless compared to a gun. If anyone uses explosive tipped arrows as an example its even stupider, because at that point I would just state the obvious...."Use a gun!"

 

[gorcorps]

idk...if my wife and I both shoot the same bow, I have a feeling the force of impact will be different :awe:

Depends on the bow. With a recurve bow, yes... the more you pull back the more energy is stored and ready to be released. But we're not talking recurve, it's a modern compound bow. Have you ever shot one? With any compound bow as soon as you get to that fully drawn point it's the same for anybody holding that bow.

 

[gothamhunter]

The power of the bow is based on how much potential energy can be stored. Regardless of who pulls the bow back, if both people pull the string back to the same position, the bow will transfer the same amount of energy to the arrow.

A stronger person can shoot and arrow farther by using a larger bow that is capable of more potential energy. If the bow is the same, the energy capability is the same.

The presumption in Crysis is that the powersuit would allow for using a much more powerful bow that the average person can't use, but my question is....why? If guns aren't effective enough to take down whatever he's shooting at, an arrow is laughable as it is slow and useless compared to a gun. If anyone uses explosive tipped arrows as an example its even stupider, because at that point I would just state the obvious...."Use a gun!"

This is what I was going with; I know how the mechanics of a bow work, I was implying I'd be able to pull it farther back than my wife

 

[ImpulsE69]

Aparently you guys haven't seen immortals, that was where my reference to "energy bow" came from. aka: laser arrows.

 

[gorcorps]

This is what I was going with; I know how the mechanics of a bow work, I was implying I'd be able to pull it farther back than my wife

Well then I don't think you DO know how it works, because that's still not right. A pulled back bow is pulled back... you do not pull it back more just because you're a man, that's not how they're designed. If a bow is set up for a 28" draw then it's a 28" draw. You CAN adjust the overall draw length to fit the shooter, but that is for arm span not strength. The peep sight and bow string need to end up at a certain spot for you to accurately and comfortably shoot. This is a function of arm length, not because of how strong anybody is.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Maybe the opening scene is him using the bow, laughing, then proceeding to pick up a car and throw it just as far. who knows!

 

[Veliko]

Star Wars had melee weapons yet no-one had a heart attack about it.

Relax and wait and see.

 

[Red Storm]

Star Wars had melee weapons yet no-one had a heart attack about it.

Relax and wait and see.

Melee weapons will always have a place in combat. A bow? Not likely.

Unless an EMP goes off or something...

 

[gorcorps]

Star Wars had melee weapons yet no-one had a heart attack about it.

Relax and wait and see.

Well... duh, it's the universe that contains the lightsaber. I don't understand your point.

 

[gothamhunter]

Well then I don't think you DO know how it works, because that's still not right. A pulled back bow is pulled back... you do not pull it back more just because you're a man, that's not how they're designed. If a bow is set up for a 28" draw then it's a 28" draw. You CAN adjust the overall draw length to fit the shooter, but that is for arm span not strength. The peep sight and bow string need to end up at a certain spot for you to accurately and comfortably shoot. This is a function of arm length, not because of how strong anybody is.

Bows still have draw weights...so strength does factor in. If my bow is set at a 60LB weight I doubt my wife can pull it back as far as I can.

Edit! - just noticed before when we were discussing that you referring to compound bows. We can stop this silly discussion then

 

[Veliko]

Well... duh, it's the universe that contains the lightsaber. I don't understand your point.

Relax and wait and see.

 

[Broheim]

I seriously hate this "argument." Just because the situations are unrealistic doesn't mean we shouldn't expect any realism at all. Why is there any gravity then? Fuck realism, we should all float!

erm, parts of crysis WAS zero gravity...

 

[ImpulsE69]

Now that I think about it, I don't understand why this is even an issue. No one plays Crisis for the game, they play it to bitch about the graphics.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Star Wars had melee weapons yet no-one had a heart attack about it.

Two things. First, a bow is not a melee weapon. Second, the melee weapons in Star Wars could deflect the shots from a blaster (the Star Wars equivalent of the firearm). That's like having a broadsword that deflects bullets (very slow moving bullets based on the speed of the blaster shots in Star Wars).

Clearly we need a lightsaber in Crysis.

 

[Stringjam]

It kind of looks like he's in London, where nobody is allowed to have guns.

He's just obeying the law.

 

[gorcorps]

Now that I think about it, I don't understand why this is even an issue. No one plays Crisis for the game, they play it to bitch about the graphics.

good point

 

[Regs]

The max speed, max power, max armor....never had much use for it. After the tutorial level it became another duck and cover game.

 

[TechBoyJK]

The max speed, max power, max armor....never had much use for it. After the tutorial level it became another duck and cover game.

I guess you didn't follow the tutorial.
By not using the suit, you created a duck and cover game.
Don't disregard the instructions and say it's a shitty game because you didn't play it right.

derp derp

 

[TechBoyJK]

my guess is it's stealth related (like having a knife)

 

[CottonRabbit]

The presumption in Crysis is that the powersuit would allow for using a much more powerful bow that the average person can't use, but my question is....why? If guns aren't effective enough to take down whatever he's shooting at, an arrow is laughable as it is slow and useless compared to a gun. If anyone uses explosive tipped arrows as an example its even stupider, because at that point I would just state the obvious...."Use a gun!"

I'm guessing you aren't a fan of the Green Arrow or Hawkeye.

It's already been mentioned, but a bow will probably let you shoot while cloaked. Traditionally in Crysis, when you shoot while stealthed, you immediately break stealth and lose your suit's remaining energy reserves, a pretty hefty penalty for one shot. If a bow let's you stay cloaked after the shot, it'll be an interesting new game mechanic.

 

[MustangSVT]

Turok returns!