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Fx1

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Good for you, but PC games have consistently been more than that to start. Sure they come down with sales but I can't think of a AAA release title that didn't match the console 59.99 price point.

I'm going to wait for it to drop in price, but I'm not gonna complain and bitch about the price in a graphics thread. GL pirating it.

Sounds like your retailers are screwing you.

PC games should always be cheaper than console.
 

sze5003

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Sounds like your retailers are screwing you.

PC games should always be cheaper than console.

Depends where you are from. In US most stores still put a pc game at 60 bucks if it's a major title. Normally consoles are $60 and Pc version is $50.
 

Fx1

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They are not and have not been for years.

Yes they are.

PC has no gate fees which consoles do. This is why PC games are cheaper because your not funding the hardware.

If you pay console prices then your being screwed. Fact.
 

sze5003

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That extra 10 your paying for is the name and marketing. For it being brand new and a big title. I suppose you just don't buy them then until months to a year later ?
 

blackened23

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Yes they are.

PC has no gate fees which consoles do. This is why PC games are cheaper because your not funding the hardware.

If you pay console prices then your being screwed. Fact.

Your confusing price depreciation (which happens on all platforms) with brand new MSRP retail price. Guess what, for multi platform games - the price for all platforms is the same whether you buy an xbox 360 version or PC. I'm referring to brand new MSRP launch prices, not depreciated steam sale prices. Regardless of your opinion, there is no excuse for your discussion of piracy on this forum. Keep that stuff to yourself, if you don't like a price then don't buy it.
 

sze5003

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I dunno maybe just me but when I was younger I had to have a game that came out new and it looked good to me. Lately, by the time I get to that game, price has changed drastically. Part of getting older I guess and keeping busy with lots of stuff. I'd love to sit and game more but that's a no go. I constantly get shit for being on the pc on weekends from my gf.

Console prices depreciate as well but you ever notice if its a major title your not going to get it for less than 30-40 bucks unless you scrounge up a good sale.
 

Fx1

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Your confusing price depreciation (which happens on all platforms) with brand new MSRP retail price. Guess what, for multi platform games - the price for all platforms is the same whether you buy an xbox 360 version or PC. I'm referring to brand new MSRP launch prices, not depreciated steam sale prices. Regardless of your opinion, there is no excuse for your discussion of piracy on this forum. Keep that stuff to yourself, if you don't like a price then don't buy it.

No im not talking about steam.

You clearly dont understand the console software pricing model. Which is not surprising given that you often talk about things you have no idea about on here.

Every game on the PS3 and Xbox has a fee which goes to the console makers to fund the loss making consoles.

Since there is no PC hardware to fund anyone can make a game for the PC and they dont have to pay anyone. This is why PC games have always been cheaper RRP and cheaper in general.

This is why Skyrim was cheaper on PC than PS3 and dishonored also.

EA is screwing its PC players by keeping prices level with consoles.

Here is a clear example of how it should be http://www.shopto.net/product/searc...L01,XB2AL04,DWNLD28742,PCAL13,XB2AL13,PS3AL13
 
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sze5003

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No im not talking about steam.

You clearly dont understand the console software pricing model. Which is not surprising given that you often talk about things you have no idea about on here.

Every game on the PS3 and Xbox has a fee which goes to the console makers to fund the loss making consoles.

Since there is no PC hardware to fund anyone can make a game for the PC and they dont have to pay anyone. This is why PC games have always been cheaper RRP and cheaper in general.

This is why Skyrim was cheaper on PC than PS3 and dishonored also.

EA is screwing its PC players by keeping prices level with consoles.

I think they have to pay the devs, the head company sponsoring them, the marketing, ads..etc. Whatever hardware costs are eliminated, are now replaced with other costs. They always find a way to justify it.

I don't play many ea games anyway. Let's wait and see some games coming out for example if the new splinter cell comes out for console and pc well see if the price is more or less. It will be 59 for console and 49 for pc if its expected to be a big game.
 

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So if groover is getting those frames at 2560, then I should expect better at 1080p with two 670's. Looks like i'll be picking it up as it looks good and i'll have a full report on Blackened23's desk first thing in the morning (but morning on which planet?)
 

Fx1

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I think they have to pay the devs, the head company sponsoring them, the marketing, ads..etc. Whatever hardware costs are eliminated, are now replaced with other costs. They always find a way to justify it.

I don't play many ea games anyway. Let's wait and see some games coming out for example if the new splinter cell comes out for console and pc well see if the price is more or less. It will be 59 for console and 49 for pc if its expected to be a big game.

Im not putting up with it. Other companies are being fair.

Tomb Raider
Bioshock http://www.shopto.net/product/search?platform=&search=bioshock
Aliens Colonial Marines

then EA games are same price or maybe 2-3 GBP less if your lucky.
 

blackened23

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So if groover is getting those frames at 2560, then I should expect better at 1080p with two 670's. Looks like i'll be picking it up as it looks good and i'll have a full report on Blackened23's desk first thing in the morning (but morning on which planet?)

Nice. Then we'll go to war in BF3 and maybe some crysis 3 multiplayer :p
 

Grooveriding

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So if groover is getting those frames at 2560, then I should expect better at 1080p with two 670's. Looks like i'll be picking it up as it looks good and i'll have a full report on Blackened23's desk first thing in the morning (but morning on which planet?)

I think your setup will be perfect for 1080p and deliver solid 60FPS. Probably can use some MSAA as well, which I can't use at all if I want it to play smoothly.

Didn't try any of the MP. The MP in C2 sucked hard and was full of hackers, hopefully it's better in this one.
 
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Insomniator

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This game, like many others is one that I'd only want to play on full details. I don't think I can upgrade my GTX 560 448 just for one game though...

Will wait until a few more like this come out and see what the GPU landscape looks like then :(
 

Tweak155

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You are completely wrong on this one. Those prices were the norm. Street Fighter 2 was 74.99 MSRP on release, Chrono Trigger was 79.99$. Final Fantasy 3 on release was also 84.99$ MSRP. Every store had it for that price including Toys R Us, Babbages, Software Etc, and Electronics Boutique. The only games that ever sold for 49.99 new were either used or heavily discounted from being old, no new SNES games were that cheap, the cheapest were 59.99$ for the absolute bargain bin titles. Most were more expensive, a lot more expensive.

Those prices were the norm. I can think of dozens of additional examples. You either weren't around then or just basing your post on false assumptions. SNES games were more expensive than modern games are, easily.

Aside from this, there is no excuse for open discussion of obtaining software illegally here. It isn't allowed.

Like I said, you can give me examples but I can outnumber your examples with many others. So many in fact I don't see the point in listing them. And yes I bought many SNES games and still have many of them. So yeah, you're wrong. You're just cherry picking to prove your point. You can name dozens out of how many total games?

The vast majority were near $50.

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That doesn't change the fact that is like $80-$90 in today's money accounting for inflation
 

SPBHM

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I think the Snes (console) price was a lot lower relative to games price,
also games used to sell a lot less I think, so it's probably not to relevant...
 

Tweak155

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I think the Snes (console) price was a lot lower relative to games price,
also games used to sell a lot less I think, so it's probably not to relevant...

The other thing to consider is population. There is a larger market now which helps them keep the price lower, as well as cheaper distribution methods such as downloading via the marketplace. I imagine it somewhat balances out with the increased production cost, but moreso in the developer's favor.

That said, if they couldn't produce a profitable game at $59.99, then we wouldn't be seeing any games at $59.99.
 

cmdrdredd

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Yes they are.

PC has no gate fees which consoles do. This is why PC games are cheaper because your not funding the hardware.

If you pay console prices then your being screwed. Fact.

Crysis 3 is $60 everywhere. Walmart, target, GameStop, amazon...except the discount online only sites. So your information is outright false. PC games cost just as much as console games at retail.


Most other titles are $60 at release even on steam. Look at the current steam price for Skyrim $59.99. Yeah they go on sale but not everyone will notice or they want the game day one.
 
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Tweak155

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Crysis 3 is $60 everywhere. Walmart, target, GameStop, amazon...except the discount online only sites. So your information is outright false. PC games cost just as much as console games at retail.

Not to mention the PC market is a lot smaller than console. So even if it were cheaper to distribute a PC game, less people are buying it.
 

Fx1

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Crysis 3 is $60 everywhere. Walmart, target, GameStop, amazon...except the discount online only sites. So your information is outright false. PC games cost just as much as console games at retail.


Most other titles are $60 at release even on steam. Look at the current steam price for Skyrim $59.99. Yeah they go on sale but not everyone will notice or they want the game day one.

Yes because EA are screwing you.

Bethesda and other publishers clearly dont charge the same for PC games. I have linked examples above as proof.

So my info isnt outright False
 

cmdrdredd

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Yes because EA are screwing you.

Bethesda and other publishers clearly dont charge the same for PC games. I have linked examples above as proof.

So my info isnt outright False

Did you even read a word? Steam right now is selling Skyrim for $60. No sale and no discount. You are trying to ignore the truth.

You link to a company outside the US that lists prices in British pounds and expect that to be the guideline that everyone looks at? Hardly ..especially from one single site.
 
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Fx1

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Did you even read a word? Steam right now is selling Skyrim for $60. No sale and no discount. You are trying to ignore the truth.

Steam LOL

Who buys from Steam? Steam is the biggest rip off merchant going. A game on a physical disk costs 19.95 GBP and digital download VIA STEAM purchased from Shopto.net is 18.95 GBP including 20% VAT.

Do the math.

$24.50 in your money

http://www.shopto.net/search/?platform=&newsearch=skyrim
 
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sze5003

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Did you even read a word? Steam right now is selling Skyrim for $60. No sale and no discount. You are trying to ignore the truth.

He's saying because it's a game developed by EA that they are the ones who set the price. I don't think that's true. In a couple of days maybe weeks we will see discounts on those other sites for at least 50 bucks.
 

cmdrdredd

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Steam LOL

Who buys from Steam? Steam is the biggest rip off merchant going. A game on a physical disk costs 19 GBP and digital download VIA STEAM purchased from Shopto.net is 18 GBP with 20% VAT.

Do the math

http://www.shopto.net/search/?platform=&newsearch=skyrim

I won't do the math because on steam there is no tax and I don't pay vat in the us...just admit you are wrong. One single site means zero especially when it is in a region outside where I can buy them. I don't run PAL format on my TV for console games either.
 
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