Crysis 2 Retail Benchmarked

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MrK6

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Anyone play this game in 3D yet? Comment on the quality of Crysis 2's in-house stereoscopic 3D rendering? What eyewear were you using? Thanks.
NVIDIA 3D, worked fine, but I only played for 5 minutes. It looked the same as most 3D stereoscopic games - the 3D displays fine, it looks kind of fuzzy, and the crosshairs are never at the right depth. It'd be sweet if they had crosshairs (like STALKER) or the laser pointer that adjusts to distance like in the original Crysis, that would complement the 3D well.
 

MrK6

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On a side note, some press now that the game is released:

At HardOCP - beware coarse language
DasReviews

Of note, Metacritic still has it pegged at 89, although user reviews are at odds with that. Looks like you can't trust game review sites either, not that that's anything new. I'm still happy I cancelled my preorder.
 

dguy6789

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The IGN PC review was worthless too, very clearly just trying to promote the game and not criticize it
 

dust

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They must have put the 2 million they got to good use it seems
 

Kingkazma

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im at lost at why they wont make higher textures for pc then dumb it down for consoles.

its like audio production, you start with lossless then go to mp3, why can't they do that? >< stupid crytek

personally im disappointed at the graphics... PC with that much power should always be ahead of consoles.

oh well, BF3 it is.
 

PingviN

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On a side note, some press now that the game is released:

At HardOCP - beware coarse language
DasReviews

Of note, Metacritic still has it pegged at 89, although user reviews are at odds with that. Looks like you can't trust game review sites either, not that that's anything new. I'm still happy I cancelled my preorder.

The forum link to "bitching and moaning" cracked me up :D
 

SHAQ

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I'm almost 2/3 through it and I like it so far. I enabled SLI with the Spaceforce tag and can force 4X Fosgamma AA which looks better to me than straight 32XQ. Framerate stays above 60 pretty much the whole time. They coded the mist/fog to use CPU cycles unfortunately and the framerate cuts down in half with GPU utilization dropping to 50&#37;. Fortunately that was a small area. I am happy that it is much better optimized than Crysis as that game will never run perfectly no matter how strong the hardware. The graphics do seem to be not quite as good but hopefully we'll get a DX11 patch with the ability to tweak the config files as well.

There are a bunch more enemies to make the game more challenging. Crysis was fairly easy on Delta when using the suit properly and Crysis 2 is a bit harder.
 

greenhawk

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And here is the rub. Too many PC gamers salivate over graphics rather than gameplay.

True, but then thinking back to the realse of the xbox360 and ps3, the upgraded graphics was one of the main selling points. I even remember one review for the xbox360 saying that id you did not have a HD monitor, no point getting the xbox360 as it did not show any difference in the graphics.

Graphics pushing advance the market. But that being said, it is the story that keeps people interested (which is lacking seriously in may game releases).

Releasing online only multiplayer games are too easy as they do not need a story. They also need limited content and so those I see as a bigger threat to future gaming more than developers focusing excusivly on graphics.
 

blastingcap

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And here is the rub. Too many PC gamers salivate over graphics rather than gameplay.

Graphics aren't unimportant. If a girl (or guy for that matter) does not have a good personality, she sure as heck better have good looks, to attract suitors. If a video game does not have good gameplay, then it should at least have good graphics, to attract buyers.

I think this is a case of overblown expectations, where people are comparing C2 to C1, rather than games in general. From what I'm hearing, Crysis 2 has worse gameplay AND worse looks than the original Crysis, and yet if you look at Crysis 2 compared to other games out there today, it doesn't fare as badly in comparisons.

And then of course there is the ever-popular console bashing, another reason for Crysis 2 discontent. I hate consoles too, but I'm not going to burn Crytek in effigy over it... they have to make money like any other business. I do hope they come out with the upgraded graphics and stuff on PC really soon, though.
 

StinkyPinky

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I firmly believe that many of these gaming sites are totally corrupt. I don't trust many of them. It's hard not to be I suppose, when they're paying for your bandwdith with their ads and inviting you around half the world for press junkets.
 

RussianSensation

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I hope you aren't being serious. The fog, shadows, tessellation, makes a huge difference while the game is in motion. Screens don't do it justice. Going from DX9 to DX 11 was huge. Just look at the lighting indoor while driving through Bettersea and many tracks for Malaysia. DX11 made one of my favorite games even better.

Dirt 2 is one of my favourite games of all time. I have played it for > 1 year. I can't tell the difference between DX9 vs. DX11 at 8AA/16AF 1920x1080 at any track when racing. The most impressive DX11 "game" is Unigine Heaven Demo. DX11 implementation in Hawx 2, BFBC2, Dirt 2, AvP, Lost Planet 2 is a joke. None of those games make me want to own a DX11 graphics card over a DX10 one. The difference is, there is a 30&#37;+ performance hit in DX11 for no reason. I still remember the massive graphical improvements that came by going from DX7 to DX8 to DX9. DX11 at this time brings none of that "wow" factor. I imagine in 2-3 years from now future DX11 titles will start to wow us, but not for a while. Right now it's just a gimmick with Tessellation as the only selling point really.
 
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Raduque

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So you are willing to forego a game which potentially has great gameplay because its graphics are not industry leading? A true gamer would never do that.

See, that's the thing about "PC" gamers. They bitch and complain that consoles are "dumbing" down gameplay, but they are always hyping up graphics over everything else. Funny isn't it?
 

RussianSensation

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Graphics aren't unimportant. If a girl (or guy for that matter) does not have a good personality, she sure as heck better have good looks, to attract suitors. If a video game does not have good gameplay, then it should at least have good graphics, to attract buyers.

Not sure about that. You can have a good time with a pretty girl who doesn't have an amazing personality if you don't intend to be serious with her. But I sure as hell am not playing a good looking game that has horrible gameplay.

See, that's the thing about "PC" gamers. They bitch and complain that consoles are "dumbing" down gameplay, but they are always hyping up graphics over everything else. Funny isn't it?

It could be because gameplay is subjective, but graphics are much easier to compare. A PC gamer can always show that a PC game looks superior to a console game. So when a game doesn't look superior, perhaps they feel "cheated" that they have spent all this $$ on their $500 graphics card when they could have played the same game on a console which costs $200.

Still, this serious obsession over graphics is what's contributing to the decline of gameplay quality in PC games imho. At least Blizzard gets it for the time being. Their games have amazing gameplay, screw the graphics. Also look at Angry Birds. That game has sold millions of copies and looks like a**. Yet, the game is more fun than most PC games released last year (or console games for that matter). I mean really is someone going to debate that Crysis is a better game than Super Mario Bros? Sorry, even with 100x better graphics, Crysis will never be as good as Super Mario Bros....ever. And it's a shame to see so many people discount a game solely based on graphics.

Personally, I would have loved for Crysis 2 to be a better looking game to showcase what a modern PC can do. But there is no way I am going to discount it based on average graphics alone. I will at least give it a shot, maybe not at $60 though. I still play Starcraft 1 and that game is 2D. What about Fallout 3? That game is pretty fun and has avg. graphics at best.

I think the biggest disapointment is that Crytek themselves created too much hype around the game's engine/graphics. Had they not done so, we would have focused on discussing the gameplay. Yet, when they said they will take Crysis 1's graphics to the next level with Crysis 2 and didn't deliver, we are bound to be disappointed. Whether or not Crysis 2 on its own is a good game is another matter entirely. I think people are blurring the 2 in this thread by equating a good game with a requirement to have excellent graphics.
 
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load81

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See, that's the thing about "PC" gamers. They bitch and complain that consoles are "dumbing" down gameplay, but they are always hyping up graphics over everything else. Funny isn't it?

On an avarage day I usualy play some 360, Wii, Snes or N64 on Wii, and Pc games. Im dissabled with back problems and I have alot of time when wife is at work and kids are playing. I dont know what kind of gamer you would call me but I hate that my consoles hold back PC games. We dont see many anymore but a good true PC game makes any console game like childs play. Consoles cant touch the graphics, sound, controls, gameplay, mod-ability, and replay value of a true PC game done from ground up for PC. Its not only about graphics.
 

RussianSensation

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Consoles cant touch the graphics, sound, controls, gameplay, mod-ability, and replay value of a true PC game done from ground up for PC. Its not only about graphics.

Glad to see that you enjoy a variety of games (consoles, PC, etc.) :thumbsup:

I agree with what you have said. However, by discounting the game solely based on avg. graphics is implicit that the aggregate utility/value of all the other factors which you have mentioned is less important than having the best graphics. This is exactly what some PC gamers have done in this thread - they have simply concluded that the game is inadequate based on graphics alone. This to me is a little unfair unless they have actually beaten the game and were dissatisfied with gameplay, level design, sub-par A.I., etc.

I wonder if Crysis 1 would be as 'respected' if it was released as a cross-platform game in 2007.
 
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Annisman*

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Again, I want to stress that there are developers that have given us the best of both worlds (graphics and gameplay) they should be commended and encouraged, while the other developers who have the capability (obviously not an Indie dev. for example) should be avoided and criticized.

The perfect example is, of course, Crysis 2, we have seen their own footage of Cryengine 2 and 3 with mind blowing graphics, now why has this never materialized for us in game form ? The original Crysis was an excellent attempt at that, the second however, is a lazy port that had SO much potential go down the toilet when multi-platform was tacked on.
 

Dribble

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Gameplay > all. I have a high end machine yet my favourite games are currently UT2004, killing floor and monday night combat, none of which have uber graphics but they are fun to play.

Wonder how crysis 2 looks in 3D? - haven't got the game yet but I suspect DX9 + 3D will look better then DX11 in 2D.
 

nemesismk2

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I just don't get the negative comments about Crysis 2. I've seen screenshots and it looks amazing. Dont really think much of DX11 anyway so lack of DX11 is not as issue for me. If Crysis 2 was Console only then I would be complaining but they have released it for the PC.
 

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Basically crytek just took a great game and just mess the whole thing up. I never knew crysis for its gameplay. I remember crysis for its visual. Perfect example thats like being with a supermodel And then yu down grade to the ugliest woman on this world and then your telling me your satisfied. Crytek man up. Sell outs.i dont see the point of high performance gpu anymore.
 

Aristotelian

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Basically crytek just took a great game and just mess the whole thing up. I never knew crysis for its gameplay. I remember crysis for its visual. Perfect example thats like being with a supermodel And then yu down grade to the ugliest woman on this world and then your telling me your satisfied. Crytek man up. Sell outs.i dont see the point of high performance gpu anymore.

If the supermodel is just fun to look at, but the normal looking woman (Crysis 2 is far from the ugliest game in the world) is wild in the sack, I'd bet almost every interested person without erectile dysfunction would choose the normal looking woman over the model.

Yes, Crysis 2 isn't pushing the graphics envelope...but so what? Do Crytek have a moral duty to push the envelope? At the end of the day they're here to make games (and make money). Personally, I thought the demo was dumb (but I find any fps where you can 'level' and essentially instagib people who are new to the game, dumb).

Quake 3 needs to be remade with heavily updated graphics...ahh, the good old days.
 

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Valve seems to be one of the few companies innovating and that isn't saying much. Team Fortress 2 is still one of the best FPS games out there, but it was released quite awhile ago. Left 4 Dead 2 is original, but a pretty straight re-make of the original and the level design can get pretty boring. One path (with minor deviations) to the exit. Portal is probably the most original and we'll see what Portal 2 has in store.