ColdFusion718
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spoken like a true noparent....
you know, the mom is right. if you coddle the kid every time they wimper, we end up with ATOT.
My 2yo daughter will scream that piercing scream, and we put her on a stool in the kitchen and let her sit there. She will scream for hours some days. There is NOTHING we can do to stop here, but putting her on ther makes the incidences less frequent. If we are in public, one of us will take her to a car, but if it's just her, what can she do?
Congrats, your friend is an ass.
you know, the mom is right. if you coddle the kid every time they wimper, we end up with ATOT.
My 2yo daughter will scream that piercing scream, and we put her on a stool in the kitchen and let her sit there. She will scream for hours some days. There is NOTHING we can do to stop here, but putting her on ther makes the incidences less frequent. If we are in public, one of us will take her to a car, but if it's just her, what can she do?
Congrats, your friend is an ass.
Your friend is a douche, and that mom equally so. Take your F-ing kids out of public if they're going to act that way. Same deal with those young "pissed off at the world" selfish parents who take their talking/crying baby to the movie theater because they can't afford/find a babysitter.
no, kids are brats because they get everything the want, when they want it. Had the lady grabbed some candy and shut her kid up, it would have been worse long term.
How is that any different? You still take the child to the car. If you try to justify not doing so, you're at the very least being completely inconsiderate of everyone else around you. At the VERY least, put the goddamn cell phone away, and hustle you and your screaming child's ass through the store to get what you need and get out of there.
my 2 year old cannot be reasoned with some days. Nothing works, not spanking, not talking, not treats, NOTHING. We just put her on a chair/stool and she gets to scream till shes done. That's why you don't go out to dinner much, no movies with kids etc while your kids are that age. You made great points here.
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
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Good job
As for all the other "parents" in this thread, if you can't tell your kid to shut up - someone else will have to. Also, if you can't control a bawling kid, what makes you think that you can kick my ass?
We need more people like the OP's friend and the aircrew who offloaded the mom & her "bye bye plane" brat.
yeah, cause if we can't beat the crap out of a kid to shut them up, then we aren't real men! :shocked:
3 under 5 is bad, but my Mother in law had 5 under the age of 3...try that one one for size. I have ONE under 5, and it's about all I can do some days not to scream like the OP's friend
hanoverphist
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Originally posted by: rh71
^ plus performing an act of violence in front of your own child would be another bulletpoint in the parental guidebook right ?
I agree with the embarrassment point. YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
I don't have kids yet, but if they are uncontrollable, I'd be embarrassed to bring them out in public. I can forget about eating out, etc. Find a sitter.
double edged sword there... how do you teach them proper public behavior if you never take them out in public? you need to expose them to the world to teach them both what not to do and things they can do. my kids arent perfect, but they do have a healthy dose of fearing the "wrath of dad" in those cases. i also got lucky with 3 great kids that listen fairly well.
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Put the merchandise down, go outside and handle it, and come back when the kid is calm?
my 2YO can scream at the top of her lungs for 2 hours until she looses her voice. NOTHING stops her once she gets going, except maybe giving in and giving her the candy she wanted, or getting her to sleep (she usually melts down if she didn't nap the day before/that day and/or didn't get much sleep that night).
My wife wouldn't do what that lady did. We usually tag team shopping just for this reason, or I shop on the way home from work, specifically because our 2YO can make thing really hard in a hurry.
hanoverphist
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mine are 12, 10 and 10. they have all acted that way in a store at one point or another in their younger days. all before they were 5 tho. now they know better. im more likely to get a bulleted list of reasons why they should be able to get what they want now than a whaaaaah fest.
my 7 year old would NEVER get away with that in public. NEVER. She doesn't get away with that at home.
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People have more tolerance for a 2 y/o than a 7 y/o, don't you think? Even still, you're an a$$hole if you feel its ok to let your kid scream for 2 hours in the store "b/c doing something about it is just giving them what you want"
Like I keep saying... if your child is not going to be reigned in under control relatively quickly (i'd say ~ 1min) then the child should be taken outside or home until it is ready to come back. I've left entire grocery baskets at the counter (with apologies) b/c my daughter wouldn't stop throwing a tantrum when she was much younger. Its not right to force EVERYONE to listen to it FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. Outburst happen, if they dont stop on their own in a short time do something about it before someone else loses their patience.
Then this wouldn't have happened to you, you got your kids in check. End of story. You've done well. :thumbsup:
if one minute of a tantrum is an extended period of time, then 10 lbs of beef must be bulk, the plane would take off, and .99999 must equal 1.
Leaving a cart at the stand (meaning you are done) is a dumb way to do things. If it's at the beginning of shopping, sure, leave and come back. If it's at the end, just push through, most people there are reasonable and have had kids.
What if the kid was sick and she was there to get medicine from the pharmacy? I know my wife has taken the 2yo into the store for that reason, screaming like a banshee. She had no other option, and had someone done what your friend had done, they would have gotten their head stomped in quickly. If your friend can't handle 3 minutes of a kid, then he needs to grow up himself. The world does NOT exist for his pleasure, and things aren't always going to be rosy, quiet, and easy.
I'm not going to read all of the thread, but why didn't your friend confront the manager of the store? If he decides to let this go on in his store, then your friend needs to STFU. If he doesn't like it, shop somewhere else.
Plain and simple, unless another person's child is putting someone else in a situation where they could cause grievous bodily harm, something extremely stupid possibly resulting in mass chaos or property destruction, or are conducting criminal activity (and this is even a stretch, because in many cases you should just call the police), you sure as hell don't discipline them.
Plain and simple, unless another person's child is putting someone else in a situation where they could cause grievous bodily harm, something extremely stupid possibly resulting in mass chaos or property destruction, or are conducting criminal activity (and this is even a stretch, because in many cases you should just call the police), you sure as hell don't discipline them.
Note that my opinion (in case anyone can't tell)
Bad parenting means call them out, they are tools and need to be told so. I have done so in the past.
Bad human tolerance for a normal thing (all kids do it eventually) means they are a tool, and should be called on it. I have stuck up for someone being an ass to a mother in the grocery store alone with a difficult child. It happens, deal with it and move on. Scream at anyones kid like that and I'll step up and call you on it, in public, in front of everyone.
I don't give a damn with either situation. Both often need someone to step up and tell the ADULT that something needs to change. Never yell at the kid, and don't back seat parent in your 3 minutes of seeing them. You have no idea about the past, what they are doing, or what they have done.
Bad parenting means call them out, they are tools and need to be told so. I have done so in the past.
Bad human tolerance for a normal thing (all kids do it eventually) means they are a tool, and should be called on it. I have stuck up for someone being an ass to a mother in the grocery store alone with a difficult child. It happens, deal with it and move on. Scream at anyones kid like that and I'll step up and call you on it, in public, in front of everyone.
I don't give a damn with either situation. Both often need someone to step up and tell the ADULT that something needs to change. Never yell at the kid, and don't back seat parent in your 3 minutes of seeing them. You have no idea about the past, what they are doing, or what they have done.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxuMKb5CKI0
Picture this, without the throwing stuff, for over 4 minutes. Kid was roughly about the same age, a bit younger.
Edit - skip the first 15 seconds
Picture this, without the throwing stuff, for over 4 minutes. Kid was roughly about the same age, a bit younger.
Edit - skip the first 15 seconds
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