Critical Race Theory Is The Left’s QAnon

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woolfe9998

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If they were inaccurate more than once and with the intent of creating a false narrative I would agree with you. Do you have any more examples that highlight this false narrative?

It's hardly a minor point. Saying that we fought the War of Independence to protect slavery is a mirror of the south's fallacy that the Civil War wasn't fought over slavery.

In any event, there are many more criticisms. There's about three dozen articles which can be found through google. No one of them addresses all the issues. You have to read a bunch to get the full picture. Here's one:

 
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It's hardly a minor point. Saying that we fought the War of Independence to protect slavery is a mirror of the south's fallacy that the Civil War wasn't fought over slavery.

In any event, there are many more criticisms. There's about three dozen articles which can be found through google. No one of them addresses all the issues. You have to read a bunch to get the full picture. Here's one:


I didn't say it was minor. I asked if it was intentional. The link you provided cited three examples, one of which we already covered and despite the inaccuracies your article says it supports the project and only wants it to be accurate.

Your claim that the 1619 project and CRT want white supremacy to be the founding ideal of this country is false. What it wants to do is show that a central theme of this country's birth/growth lies in racism. Whether that racism was overt, systemic, or simply glossed over, the fact remains that racism is deeply intertwined in our country's making. Its through that lense that we must be willing to acknowledge and understand in order to move forward and not simply make laws and policies less obvious of their racist intent (see modern day voter restriction laws for example).
 

HomerJS

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Except I am married. With 2 kids lol. Also the wife works. Sorry that your incel self can't manage in life.





lol the 1619 project has been critiqued and invalidated by many many many reputable sources and historians. It's a joke at this point.

The author is an absolute giant massive fucking moron - and idiots are propping her up out of pure stupidity.


No it hasn't and citing opinion pieces penned by people who want to maintain the version of history written by white people that eliminates the things they don't want to talk about. Such as

Texas trying to strike Martin Luther King's contributions from history
Refusing to teach Tulsa OK students about their own race massacre until 2002. That's why adults in the city were unaware of it until the recent 100 year anniversary.
 

cytg111

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So, are they for or against preexisting conditions this day?
This shit is so confusing.
They change their story like some tiktok libs change gender or something.
 

woolfe9998

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The irony of the right linking CRT to Marxism is that most of the Marxists don't like CRT one bit. Yesterday when running searches for historical criticisms of 1619 in response to another poster's request, I ran across this on the World Socialist Website, which is, if I'm not mistaken, a group of Trotskeist Marxists.


A scathing critique of 1619, citing criticisms from historians and adding many of their own.

The thing about Marxists is that they're not that interested in racism, and tend to be actively opposed to the left's preoccupation with it. Because they think it divides the working class and weakens our struggle against capitalism. Marxists want to frame things in terms of class, not race.
 
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The thing about Marxists is that they're not that interested in racism, and tend to be actively opposed to the left's preoccupation with it. Because they think it divides the working class and weakens our struggle against capitalism. Marxists want to frame things in terms of class, not race.

It's not a marxist thing or capitalist thing - it's what our liberal elite truly want.

Like I've mentioned before - Companies like Target will have their stores looted in BLM protests - and the general public is in uproar for obvious reasons: Violent behavior, breaking into businesses, and stealing should be condemned. So what does Target do? They donate $1m to BLM.

Keeps the peasants fighting amongst the peasants.



Now what would happen if black Target workers talked about unionizing? Well, we saw what happened when it was tried with Amazon....
 

HomerJS

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Except I am married. With 2 kids lol. Also the wife works. Sorry that your incel self can't manage in life.





lol the 1619 project has been critiqued and invalidated by many many many reputable sources and historians. It's a joke at this point.

The author is an absolute giant massive fucking moron - and idiots are propping her up out of pure stupidity.


How did you get a license to marry your Trump blowup doll? You have a great lawyer. Hope you wash that thing after performing your marital duties.
 

UNCjigga

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No it hasn't and citing opinion pieces penned by people who want to maintain the version of history written by white people that eliminates the things they don't want to talk about. Such as

Texas trying to strike Martin Luther King's contributions from history
Refusing to teach Tulsa OK students about their own race massacre until 2002. That's why adults in the city were unaware of it until the recent 100 year anniversary.

Add this to the “Institutional racism doesn’t exist” file:


Officials in the Wilson County town of Lucama are working to recover a decade’s worth of public documents they say were buried in a field outside of town.

Some town leaders are suing the town, accusing them of burying the documents to hide a history of racially discriminatory billing practices.


[Town Commissioner Patricia] Uzzell and three other town employees are suing, accusing the town of destroying public records to cover up discrimination in how non-white residents were billed for and received utilities.


Allegedly the town has historically been run by a racist family that includes the Mayor’s office, fire chief and other commissioners. Fire chief has been known to use n word in his official capacity with zero repercussions, and has allegedly refused to provide black residents with 911 service. Mayor now runs his office out of the fire station and refuses to work with the town council. Basically they still run Lucama like a sundown town.
 

Amol S.

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No, I was clearly making a distinction between founding ideals and the reality of the time.



Oh, no doubt. In the south, they've been pushing lost cause revisionism which tries to argue that slavery didn't cause the civil war. And they've been teaching it in their schools.

The problem is that you don't correct inaccurate history by posing another form of inaccurate history. History class isn't a court room where two advocates push biased versions and the class is like a jury who gets to decide where the truth lies. There is only one way to teach history: straight. The problem with 1619 is that its authors see it as an antidote to whitewashed history, but what they are doing is trying to cure the problem by posing a new version which is biased in the opposite direction.

And ironically, 1619 was the impetus for some of these republicans laws which are trying to censor classroom discussion.
If they were inaccurate more than once and with the intent of creating a false narrative I would agree with you. Do you have any more examples that highlight this false narrative?

The 1619 Project never referenced anything nor even discussed about White Slavery, and what it was in reality. No wonder there are very few people today who do know there was White Slavery, but majority of the few who know about it, incorrectly think it as White people being forced to work on farms, when in reality White Slavery was a term used for Sex Slavery.

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I didn't say it was minor. I asked if it was intentional. The link you provided cited three examples, one of which we already covered and despite the inaccuracies your article says it supports the project and only wants it to be accurate.

Your claim that the 1619 project and CRT want white supremacy to be the founding ideal of this country is false. What it wants to do is show that a central theme of this country's birth/growth lies in racism. Whether that racism was overt, systemic, or simply glossed over, the fact remains that racism is deeply intertwined in our country's making. Its through that lense that we must be willing to acknowledge and understand in order to move forward and not simply make laws and policies less obvious of their racist intent (see modern day voter restriction laws for example).

I do not think we would be having this problem if we taught about White Slavery in the US as well in schools. The only problem is, it would have to have been after students understood what prostitution is, which is something many conservatives consider as a sin.
 
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This is pretty much exactly how far woke the left has gone - Asians have always been the exception to the "oppression olympics" that lefties here love to keep dancing around.




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fskimospy

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For something that doesn't exist, they sure seem like they have a bunch of information to hide when a public information request was put in....

Look at the dummy who doesn’t know how freedom of information laws work. Lol. Yet another total self owning by the dumbest guy on the forum.

I’m not sure who is stupider, the moron who wrote that tweet or you for not realizing they are a moron.
 

Panino Manino

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Look at the dummy who doesn’t know how freedom of information laws work. Lol. Yet another total self owning by the dumbest guy on the forum.

I’m not sure who is stupider, the moron who wrote that tweet or you for not realizing they are a moron.

Wait, "freedom of information" in murrica is not free? It's payed?
I mean, they can give you the information you request, but you have to pay for every hour that a public servant spends working on delivering the information to you?
I understand the logic, makes sense in a lot of ways, but this may limit a little by the accessibility of the information. Isn't there anywhere only where relevant information is public accessible and you yourself can put the work on finding the information you wants?
 

fskimospy

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Wait, "freedom of information" in murrica is not free? It's payed?
I mean, they can give you the information you request, but you have to pay for every hour that a public servant spends working on delivering the information to you?
I understand the logic, makes sense in a lot of ways, but this may limit a little by the accessibility of the information. Isn't there anywhere only where relevant information is public accessible and you yourself can put the work on finding the information you wants?
There are plenty of datasets that are public but for obvious reasons governments can't be expected to curate and post any and all information or answer any random request someone has so in those cases it has to be paid for. This is a feature that's often abused by governments where they quote ridiculous fees to look up even simple requests, and it's entirely possible that's the case here.

Doesn't change the fact that the person who tweeted it seemed to think they had $15,000 worth of records when all they were saying was that a search would cost $15,000, which is stupid. It also is entirely unsurprising that @s0me0nesmind1 was too stupid to understand this either and just repeated the moron's tweet.
 

fskimospy

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The obvious indication that race is a social construct is that Irish, Italians, and Swedes were once not considered white and now they are. Their genetics didn’t change, society did.
 

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If race is a social construct and we are all homo sapiens of the same genes, explain White and Black hair differences...

There are genetic differences between people, but "race" has never been about genes, it is, indeed, a social construct. Hence even racial categories and concepts differ between different societies and eras.
 
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