Critical Race Theory Is The Left’s QAnon

[fskimospy]

It's amusing here how the small govt free speech warrior Republicans want the govt to punish free speech in the classrooms.
Meanwhile, if system racism never existed, then what was the justification for slavery? How exactly shall a teacher explain the slavery of only one "race" of people without also discussing racism? It seems only inevitable that these fines will be imposed simply for teaching slavery in a negative light, thus forcing teachers to erase all that real history in favor of a revised history where slavery is only allowed to be viewed positively.

What's your opinion on this, @s0me0nesmind1 ?

I will be interested to see how they teach this without discussing systemic racism:

Cornerstone Speech - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

As wiki quotes, this part in particular:

our new government['s] foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

I dunno. Seems to me like their system of government was kinda racist.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It's amusing here how the small govt free speech warrior Republicans want the govt to punish free speech in the classrooms.
Meanwhile, if system racism never existed, then what was the justification for slavery? How exactly shall a teacher explain the slavery of only one "race" of people without also discussing racism? It seems only inevitable that these fines will be imposed simply for teaching slavery in a negative light, thus forcing teachers to erase all that real history in favor of a revised history where slavery is only allowed to be viewed positively.

What's your opinion on this, @s0me0nesmind1 ?

"Free speech in the classroom" ? Are you high or just incredibly stupid? "Free Speech" doesn't exactly apply when teaching curriculum to students that are REQUIRED TO BE THERE. The whole philosophy of free speech is that if you don't like what you hear you can walk away. Doesn't exactly work in a classroom, now does it?

I sincerely hope if you ever have kids that your kid gets a teacher that wants to use their "free speech" to teach your child the earth is flat.

 

[fskimospy]

"Free speech in the classroom" ? Are you high or just incredibly stupid? "Free Speech" doesn't exactly apply when teaching curriculum to students that are REQUIRED TO BE THERE. The whole philosophy of free speech is that if you don't like what you hear you can walk away. Doesn't exactly work in a classroom, now does it?

I sincerely hope if you ever have kids that your kid gets a teacher that wants to use their "free speech" to teach your child the earth is flat.

You should probably stop and learn how free speech for government employees works before humiliating yourself yet again.

 

[raildogg]

Thank you Overlords for dividing us further on race, religion, politics and sexuality. Thank you very much.

 

[MrSquished]

Thank you Overlords for dividing us further on race, religion, politics and sexuality. Thank you very much.

all it would take is for the party of the racists to just evolve

 

[fskimospy]

Thank you Overlords for dividing us further on race, religion, politics and sexuality. Thank you very much.

I agree, it only divides us further when the government bans teaching true things due to political correctness.

Funny how conservatives pretended to be against that sort of thing. Guess they are showing their true colors now, huh.

 

[Vic]

"Free speech in the classroom" ? Are you high or just incredibly stupid? "Free Speech" doesn't exactly apply when teaching curriculum to students that are REQUIRED TO BE THERE. The whole philosophy of free speech is that if you don't like what you hear you can walk away. Doesn't exactly work in a classroom, now does it?

I sincerely hope if you ever have kids that your kid gets a teacher that wants to use their "free speech" to teach your child the earth is flat.

So beyond your opposition to free speech, and your ongoing false equivalencies, are you going to address how teachers are going to explain to their classrooms how only one race of people were enslaved without speaking of the systemic racism that must have logically been involved? Or is that really the same as teaching flat eartherism to you?

And calling me names like high or stupid doesn't work when I've already bested you intellectually here more times than anyone can count.

 

[Vic]

Thank you Overlords for dividing us further on race, religion, politics and sexuality. Thank you very much.

I like it how teaching actual history on certain subjects is divisive to some people, just because it makes them feel uncomfortable.

 

[raildogg]

all it would take is for the party of the racists to just evolve

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Thank you for taking the most extreme example and portraying it as the norm to make your point. Thank you for your division. Your Overlords thank you.

 

[raildogg]

I like it how teaching actual history on certain subjects is divisive to some people, just because it makes them feel uncomfortable.

Yes, I want some of that real history myself. Real history > Fake history.

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, I want some of that real history myself. Real history > Fake history.

Well that real history is going to involve teaching a bunch of the things they just banned.

 

[Vic]

Yes, I want some of that real history myself. Real history > Fake history.

Real history in this case would mean teaching that the enslavement of only one race was racially motivated. Not just because of the obvious logic of that, but also because that's what the slavers themselves said. Repeatedly. And which is incredibly well-documented.
OTOH, fake history in this case would be teaching something other than that, which is what TN's new law requires.

 

[kage69]

Real history in this case would mean teaching that the enslavement of only race was racially motivated. Not just because of the obvious logic of that, but also because that's what the slavers themselves said. Repeatedly. And which is incredibly well-documented.
OTOH, fake history in this case would be teaching something other than that, which is what TN's new law requires.

Exactly.

Anyone who can't bring themselves to accept this basic fact has nothing germane to add on the topic. More projection and some cherries will not cover this deficit. Snowflakes enraged about political correctness are weaponizing the school system so that they may enforce political correctness. What is your malfunction here? Failure to comprehend this means the best thing you can do to support your side is to keep your ignorant, 'party before country' cockholster firmly shut. Continued embarrassment will be appreciated by some though.

 

[MrSquished]

Thank you for taking the most extreme example and portraying it as the norm to make your point. Thank you for your division. Your Overlords thank you.

Extreme? The fucking cult leader president of the USA, GQP party master, not some obscure politician, defended those symbols, and made it a point to, and attacked BLM as a total symbol of hate.

I don't even think nobodysmind exposed themselves as such a disengenuous deplorable so quickly as you have. You people are intellectual trash.

 

[amenx]

I\ll bet 99% of racists or confed flag die-hards are repubs, Trumpers or right-wingers. The OP searches long and hard to find freak exceptions to that rule to present them as equivalents that exist equally on both sides.

 

[HomerJS]

"Free speech in the classroom" ? Are you high or just incredibly stupid? "Free Speech" doesn't exactly apply when teaching curriculum to students that are REQUIRED TO BE THERE. The whole philosophy of free speech is that if you don't like what you hear you can walk away. Doesn't exactly work in a classroom, now does it?

I sincerely hope if you ever have kids that your kid gets a teacher that wants to use their "free speech" to teach your child the earth is flat.

Like I was taught Columbus discovered America.

Oh that's right since white guys write history those premises are fine.

 

[darkswordsman17]

It's amusing here how the small govt free speech warrior Republicans want the govt to punish free speech in the classrooms.
Meanwhile, if system racism never existed, then what was the justification for slavery? How exactly shall a teacher explain the slavery of only one "race" of people without also discussing racism? It seems only inevitable that these fines will be imposed simply for teaching slavery in a negative light, thus forcing teachers to erase all that real history in favor of a revised history where slavery is only allowed to be viewed positively.

What's your opinion on this, @s0me0nesmind1 ?

You could just bypass the horse's ass and go straight to the horses mouth. In other words, ask what does Charles Barkley think about this?

 

[HomerJS]

Real history in this case would mean teaching that the enslavement of only one race was racially motivated. Not just because of the obvious logic of that, but also because that's what the slavers themselves said. Repeatedly. And which is incredibly well-documented.
OTOH, fake history in this case would be teaching something other than that, which is what TN's new law requires.

If you started a poll that asked which is closest to the truth what would you get?

The country was founded on racism
The country was founded on equality

 

[Vic]

If you started a poll that asked which is closest to the truth what would you get?

The country was founded on racism
The country was founded on equality

The truth is that this country was founded on an ideal of equality within a legacy of racism that persists to this day.

 

[woolfe9998]

If you started a poll that asked which is closest to the truth what would you get?

The country was founded on racism
The country was founded on equality

The country was also founded on many things which do not qualify in either category. It's a false dichotomy to suggest that ideas of equality or inequality were the sole or even primary driving factors of American history.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The country was also founded on many things which do not qualify in either category. It's a false dichotomy to suggest that ideas of equality or inequality were the sole or even primary driving factors of American history.

Shhhh, why use facts when you can just go on FEELINGS instead?

 

[ivwshane]

Shhhh, why use facts when you can just go on FEELINGS instead?

Why don’t you enlighten us on that question since you are always about the feels.

 

[blackangst1]

You should probably stop and learn how free speech for government employees works before humiliating yourself yet again.

Teachers in general have limited free speech in the classroom. They dont enjoy the same 1st Amendment rights citizens do.

Academic Freedom – Education (uslegal.com)

Teachers in public schools have limited freedoms in the classroom to teach without undue restrictions on the content or subjects for discussion. These freedoms are based on rights to freedom of expression under the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. However, the concept of academic freedom is quite limited. The content taught by a teacher must be relevant to and consistent with the teacher’s responsibilities, and a teacher cannot promote a personal or political agenda in the classroom. Factors such as the age, experience, and grade level of students affect the latitude in which a court will recognize the academic freedom of a teacher.

 

[fskimospy]

Teachers in general have limited free speech in the classroom. They dont enjoy the same 1st Amendment rights citizens do.

Academic Freedom – Education (uslegal.com)

Exactly. The idea that the legislature could ban even the discussion of clearly relevant topics definitely falls within the first amendment protections of public employees.

These bans will get slaughtered by the courts but of course their point is to virtue signal (or in this case vice signal) to the Republican base.

 

[fskimospy]

The state has a lot of control over what teachers and districts can include in their curriculum but it seems to me that a lot of these bans are so insanely broad they will be struck down.

I think we can all agree that even if they aren’t they should be immediately repealed.