Cremation incident in restaurant – Over Reacted?

[Bignate603]

You know, I've actually been to a bar that had the cremated remains of a jazz musician stored in an urn in the bar. The health department didn't seem to care about that.

 

[nageov3t]

my t-bone steak had a bone in it... I should sue the restaurant for serving me this biohazardous waste.

 

[Lifted]

I went to a funeral and everyone was wearing HazMat suits.

The deceased must have been cremated before the funeral.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Here's where public school has failed so many in the US.

Had the OP's wife been educated correctly, she'd realize her entire body was composed of atoms and molecules that were once a cosmic cloud of dust, T Rex shit, the elbow scab of Jesus, the boil of an immigrant's ass, the snot of a springbok, and Caesar's urine.

From that enlightened point of view, she would have understood that what was going on with the people in the next table was about them finding closure in their own way and that to be kind to our fellow man in these circumstances is what makes us better people and makes the world a better place.

I pity the OP, because sooner or later, his wife's going to decide she wants to be free of him because she's a selfish, narcissistic moron, I'd say about age 38-44 is about the age she'll demand a divorce so she can "enjoy life". Unfortunately the op and his wife have or will reproduce and their BS hatred of things that scare them will likely pass down to others.

Everyone knows this

 

[CZroe]

I'm still trying to find a way to bring up The Dude's coffee can, but I'm at a loss.

1) A dead body CAN have things that makes it dangerous and it requires protective measures to avoid exposing yourself to diseases.
2) Long term effects of breathing ANY form of fine particulate causes disease. I know guys that do carpentry and wear a mask to avoid inhaling sawdust day after day. Is sawdust a biohazard too?
3) Of course they go nuts cleaning it up. Even if its safe, people don't want to touch a powdered up dead body. If somebody spills it of course they're going to stop and clean everything out very carefully. It would be a publicity nightmare for a business to have customers touching and sitting in somebody's ashes.

This. I was going to say the same thing. Sounds like how you would deal with any particulate matter you work with.

 

[mrjminer]

I ate a spoon of cremated remains once when I was drunk. It's no different than eating wood ash, except you can find someone that will buy you a case of beer if you do it.

So, yes, you overreacted.

 

[TheVrolok]

I pity the OP, because sooner or later, his wife's going to decide she wants to be free of him because she's a selfish, narcissistic moron, I'd say about age 38-44 is about the age she'll demand a divorce so she can "enjoy life". Unfortunately the op and his wife have or reproduce and their BS hatred of things that scare them will likely pass down to others.

A little much, maybe?

 

[Pliablemoose]

A little much, maybe?

Nah

 

[x-alki]

OP and his wife are ignorant asses (at least in this case) and pussies.

Slicksnake is also an ignorant ass a troll and a pussy.

 

[William Gaatjes]

I think the op over reacted as well but i also understand the point but primarily from the perspective of the manager. If those people wanted to show the last honors, then the urn could have been kept in a closed bag as well to not upset other customers. But i would not have called the manager for this if those people maintained to be respectful which i would expect in such a situation.

If i would use the perspective of the manager, i would allow it (teeth grinding) for the first time i ever see it happen. The next time i would see anybody at all with an urn i would ask them to keep it in the car or in a bag on a chair. I would ask this because i have a restaurant to run and the customers pay my bills. I do not have the desire to become the owner of the restaurant with the nickname "Graveyard" or "The morgue". It would be bad for business. I know it is hypocrisy, when thinking of serving meat, but that is properly cleaned animal meat(i assume) not human meat or any other human or not remains.

Some people point out mortuaries , in all honesty to compare a mortuary with a restaurant is a bit obscene. A lot of corpses pass through each day in a mortuary. Thus the accumulation of dangerous pathogens is more possible. I think dangerous chemicals such as for example formaldehyde are used as well, but i do not have experience in this field. Of corpse when corpses get incinerated, heavy metals get left behind. I do not know if corpses are burned with clothes and false teeth, but in any case, it makes sense that metals and other products get separated from the to be returned ash.
When a contagious disease breaks out with victims that have died, i think it is pretty normal to wear hazmat suits because of the not yet incinerated corpses that may carry dangerous pathogens.

EDIT:
In a mortuary however, it is not always known what was the cause of death of the deceased...

 

[KaOTiK]

dick move

 

[preslove]

I would say that "douchebag" is an understatement. The OP is a fucking asshole. Just pathetic.

Srsly, op, fuck you.

These people wanted to have a dinner to commemorate their dead mother, and you RUINED IT!

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[xanis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation

Cremation may serve as a funeral or postfuneral rite that is an alternative to the interment of an intact body in a casket. Cremated remains, which are not a health risk, may be buried or immured in memorial sites or cemeteries, or they may be legally retained by relatives or dispersed in a variety of ways and locations.

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/general/cremation_ashes.html

Because the body is cremated at such a high temperature all micro-organisms are destroyed. Remaining ashes are inert. There are therefore, no public health risks associated with handling ashes.

http://deadbodies.uslegal.com/cremation/

Cremated remains, which are not a health risk, may be buried or immured in memorial sites or cemeteries, or they may be legally retained by relatives or dispersed in a variety of ways and locations.

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SlickSnake - Keep on trollin' champ.

 

[Imp]

I'd have been more worried about the cook who jerked off or wiped his ass before touching your food. Or the waiter with Hep-B, all the patrons with HIV, more Hep, teh herp, etc. that used the can without washing their hands.

If they spilled the ashes or opened the damn urn/plastic bag to let mom take in a whiff of the food, I'd be pissed. Otherwise, way to go OP...

 

[waggy]

That was a douche move on you and your wife's part, you just had to fuck things up for those folks.

If I were the manager I would've told you uptight assholes to leave.

/this

way to over react and be a dick.

 

[waggy]

Gross, and I hope not. I don't want to dine with the dead unless I'm a zombie.

I also hate it when people dump them into rivers and lakes people might drink from. The ocean is one thing, but you better not do that in MY water supply. Good thing I drink well water.

lol i have private well too. you do know there is far more dead stuff in the well then in city tap water right?

 

[OlafSicky]

You and your wife are both pricks. It was just carbon no health concerns and it's nice to have ones last wishes fulfilled. You prevented a persons last request and added more grief to a grieving family.
Pricks

 

[zinfamous]

ghoulish?

you overreacted, OP. there is nothing dangerous about cremated remains. why are you so afraid of death?

 

[zinfamous]

You and your wife are both pricks. It was just carbon no health concerns and it's nice to have ones last wishes fulfilled. You prevented a persons last request and added more grief to a grieving family.
Pricks

haha. x100.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm still trying to find a way to bring up The Dude's coffee can, but I'm at a loss.

 

[kranky]

I see SlickSnake is truly sticking to his position even in the face of overwhelming opposing viewpoints. I hope somebody somewhere can find some proof regarding whether it's a health code violation to have cremation remains in a restaurant. I'd like to know for sure either way.

That said, I would not have objected to it if I was at the adjacent table, nor called anyone's attention to it - whether I felt it was ghoulish or not. If it's not a health code violation, then maybe I would leave, or ask to be reseated elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't cause a grieving family to be tossed out if they hadn't done anything wrong.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Aren't you the same dumbass that lives in a mobile home but also owns and praises Monster Cable?

Is this true? If so, I'm not surprised. At all.

 

[ahenkel]

I mean if they where flinging the ashes around I might have an issue, or if they tried to weasel in on another 2 for 20 special. Other than that dick move to have em kicked out.

 

[zinfamous]

I have seen the cremation process at several large funeral homes before myself, which I seriously doubt any of you ever have.

When you see all the safety precautions they take while handling the cremated remains, such as full body aprons, gloves, surgical style mouth and nose protection or breathing masks and even eye protection, you would understand how utterly stupid these posters are to think these remains are somehow completely inert and harmless. They are not. And you certainly don't want to be regularly breathing it or covered in it without protection of some sort. And you internet geniuses are completely nuts if you think otherwise.

And I have even been called before after they shut down a supermarket where some careless woman spilled some relative on the floor by the cash registers and the health department considered it a biohazard and we were called to come clean the shit up. Because that's the kind of stuff fire departments do, like it or not.

I also have heard about all kinds of other stuff closed down and hazmatted after people accidentally or on purpose spilled ashes, even the Pirates of the Caribbean ride was shut down before because someone wanted to take them on one last ride and it ended up covering the riders and the cars and the ride.

I'm done here. Stupid is stupid and having mods pile on that should be setting the bar higher just for shits and giggles does not make it any less stupid.

overreacting idiots. no other explanation. this is the culture we live in now. just because people are stupid, Slick Snake, does not point their reaction towards some example of truth.

I've held my brothers ashes in my hands. It didn't make me sick.

Do you know what the fuck an autoclave is? consider that cremation is far more sterile.

 

[zinfamous]

I see SlickSnake is truly sticking to his position even in the face of overwhelming opposing viewpoints. I hope somebody somewhere can find some proof regarding whether it's a health code violation to have cremation remains in a restaurant. I'd like to know for sure either way.

That said, I would not have objected to it if I was at the adjacent table, nor called anyone's attention to it - whether I felt it was ghoulish or not. If it's not a health code violation, then maybe I would leave, or ask to be reseated elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't cause a grieving family to be tossed out if they hadn't done anything wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is, honestly. The FDA mandates expiration dates even though they are inherently meaningless. You have to fill out a few slips and go through a little BS just to carry some ashes on a plane--and this is pre 9-11.

Health code's tend to opt for the extreme side of safety, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The problem is that John Q dumbass doesn't understand the reasoning behind any of this, so he willingly accepts all of it as necessity predicated by truth.