Crazy hand of poker I played last night

[Doggiedog]

P.S. Did you take his money later anyways? 😀

Yes I did 🙂

He bluffed a flush with 4 hearts showing. I had a pocket Jacks with a heart. Took him out easy

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen

Originally posted by: jst0ney
If you had more chips you should have stayed in. That is a classic bluff. You had a king kicker and most likely would have won or at worst split the pot. Bad move doggiedog.

Um no. A lot of people stay in with A-anything. It's very likely that one of the callers had the last A on the flop.

Its very unlikely.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen

Originally posted by: jst0ney
If you had more chips you should have stayed in. That is a classic bluff. You had a king kicker and most likely would have won or at worst split the pot. Bad move doggiedog.

Um no. A lot of people stay in with A-anything. It's very likely that one of the callers had the last A on the flop.

Its very unlikely.

So what? Besides an A, there is a ton of hands that dominate a K8 in this situation. You're not worried only about an A; you are worried about any PP and a K w/ a better kicker. I'd say these are all strong possibilities, especially when someone calls the all-in in front of you.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen

Originally posted by: jst0ney
If you had more chips you should have stayed in. That is a classic bluff. You had a king kicker and most likely would have won or at worst split the pot. Bad move doggiedog.

Um no. A lot of people stay in with A-anything. It's very likely that one of the callers had the last A on the flop.

Its very unlikely.

So what? Besides an A, there is a ton of hands that dominate a K8 in this situation. You're not worried only about an A; you are worried about any PP and a K w/ a better kicker. I'd say these are all strong possibilities, especially when someone calls the all-in in front of you.

And this is why the bluff works.

There are some, but not a ton of better hands. Most of the possible hands fall below the K 8 (i would guess that at least 80% of the possible hands are below the OP's K - 8). The odds of a bluff are much higher than a winning hand. He obviously didn't have a fool-proof hand, but still, he had a pretty good hand and there were still two more cards to come out.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Stark
back in college i once played poker with a girl who got 4 aces.

the only problem is, I had a Royal Flush. I think I won over $60 from her (not bad for "change jar" poker). We started dating soon afterwards. 🙂

She wanted her money back 😉


Ausm

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen

Originally posted by: jst0ney
If you had more chips you should have stayed in. That is a classic bluff. You had a king kicker and most likely would have won or at worst split the pot. Bad move doggiedog.

Um no. A lot of people stay in with A-anything. It's very likely that one of the callers had the last A on the flop.

Its very unlikely.

So what? Besides an A, there is a ton of hands that dominate a K8 in this situation. You're not worried only about an A; you are worried about any PP and a K w/ a better kicker. I'd say these are all strong possibilities, especially when someone calls the all-in in front of you.

And this is why the bluff works.

There are some, but not a ton of better hands. Most of the possible hands fall below the K 8 (i would guess that at least 80% of the possible hands are below the OP's K - 8). The odds of a bluff are much higher than a winning hand. He obviously didn't have a fool-proof hand, but still, he had a pretty good hand and there were still two more cards to come out.

you have to remember there is already an all in and a caller ahead of him

why be the second caller with a marginal hand because if the all in might not have had it chances are

that either the caller or the better had it


it was just mere luck the A fell
and also K 8 is not very strong either

there is no way to expect the A on the turn and also if it came down to 5th street and all you have is K 8

if a 9 and a Q fell down instead of the A

you cannot bet or call with confidence with a K 8 kicker all the way through

the only situation i could image the call is good is if you are very short stacked like the person that went all in had much more money so it would be cheap to call ( your entire stack which is 1/3 or 1/4 the size of the original better) or if the all in was so small that the pot odds justify the call

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Stark
back in college i once played poker with a girl who got 4 aces.

the only problem is, I had a Royal Flush. I think I won over $60 from her (not bad for "change jar" poker). We started dating soon afterwards. 🙂

She wanted her money back 😉


Ausm

ZING!

 

[silverpig]

I had a single K and got 3 more Ks in the draw in hold 'em... Then about 10 games later I had 2 Ks and got 2 Ks in the draw... 2x 4 of a kind with kings in the same session! It was great 🙂

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
And this is why the bluff works.

There are some, but not a ton of better hands. Most of the possible hands fall below the K 8 (i would guess that at least 80% of the possible hands are below the OP's K - 8). The odds of a bluff are much higher than a winning hand. He obviously didn't have a fool-proof hand, but still, he had a pretty good hand and there were still two more cards to come out.

I beginning to question how much experience you have. Assuming the payers were somewhat competent, they would be likely not to play the bottom 80% of possible hands. That leaves the OP with a hand near the bottom of possible playable hands, not the top as you suggest. In fact, the OP has a hand so mediocre that is was only played b/c the OP was in the BB. I admit we could use complete details as to how the betting began and player position, but this is a relatively easy fold every time assuming you don't have a read on the all-in player. Now, couple this with the fact that someone else called the all-in and it is an EASY fold almost every single time.

 

[95SS]

Am I the only one who senses something wrong with this?

Since I was big blind I stayed in.

I think someone felt he was bluffing so he called him but since I was the last one to decide and someone else called, I figured it wasn't worth it.

How can there be two or more people to act before you after the flop when you are the BB? You are in second position, only one player acts before you (SB). Just my skeptical nature, I guess.

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: 95SS
Am I the only one who senses something wrong with this?

Since I was big blind I stayed in.

I think someone felt he was bluffing so he called him but since I was the last one to decide and someone else called, I figured it wasn't worth it.

How can there be two or more people to act before you after the flop when you are the BB? You are in second position, only one player acts before you (SB). Just my skeptical nature, I guess.

could have been checked around and someone after him went all in

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: 95SS
Am I the only one who senses something wrong with this?

Since I was big blind I stayed in.

I think someone felt he was bluffing so he called him but since I was the last one to decide and someone else called, I figured it wasn't worth it.

How can there be two or more people to act before you after the flop when you are the BB? You are in second position, only one player acts before you (SB). Just my skeptical nature, I guess.

Well, umm if 3 aces come out wouldn't you check?

 

[Leejai]

Nevar! At least bet the pot (since it sounds like a small pot if he was allowed to stay in at BB). Esp. w/ a K-8 kicker..only hand that could beat you really is pocket rockets, but i doubt they'd allow you to see the flop for free...

 

[SoylentGreen]

Originally posted by: Leejai
Nevar! At least bet the pot (since it sounds like a small pot if he was allowed to stay in at BB). Esp. w/ a K-8 kicker..only hand that could beat you really is pocket rockets, but i doubt they'd allow you to see the flop for free...

Wow, where is your school of poker? I want to join especially since there's 3 Aces on the board I want to know how I can have pocket rockets.

Please teach me.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
And this is why the bluff works.

There are some, but not a ton of better hands. Most of the possible hands fall below the K 8 (i would guess that at least 80% of the possible hands are below the OP's K - 8). The odds of a bluff are much higher than a winning hand. He obviously didn't have a fool-proof hand, but still, he had a pretty good hand and there were still two more cards to come out.

I beginning to question how much experience you have. Assuming the payers were somewhat competent, they would be likely not to play the bottom 80% of possible hands. That leaves the OP with a hand near the bottom of possible playable hands, not the top as you suggest. In fact, the OP has a hand so mediocre that is was only played b/c the OP was in the BB. I admit we could use complete details as to how the betting began and player position, but this is a relatively easy fold every time assuming you don't have a read on the all-in player. Now, couple this with the fact that someone else called the all-in and it is an EASY fold almost every single time.

I agree completely. Calling in this situation is just reckless and stupid. I've seen so many players get trapped in betting wars with sh!t hands that I can't imagine what was going through their heads.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen

Originally posted by: Leejai
Nevar! At least bet the pot (since it sounds like a small pot if he was allowed to stay in at BB). Esp. w/ a K-8 kicker..only hand that could beat you really is pocket rockets, but i doubt they'd allow you to see the flop for free...

Wow, where is your school of poker? I want to join especially since there's 3 Aces on the board I want to know how I can have pocket rockets.

Please teach me.

He's plays with deuces wild I think.

 

[95SS]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: 95SS
Am I the only one who senses something wrong with this?

Since I was big blind I stayed in.

I think someone felt he was bluffing so he called him but since I was the last one to decide and someone else called, I figured it wasn't worth it.

How can there be two or more people to act before you after the flop when you are the BB? You are in second position, only one player acts before you (SB). Just my skeptical nature, I guess.

Well, umm if 3 aces come out wouldn't you check?

Yea, I would. But I was wondering because you never said you had checked. That could change play a little, since the person who went all in didn't have the fourth A, he could have been in a world of hurt, since most people I know and play with would check-raise in that situation, if they held quads on the flop. Hell, I've held PP K's against a board of QQQ, check-raised big to see what would happen, one caller, turn comes rags, I bet & he calls, river A, I bet, he raises, I call (pot odds were too great), he turns A5 to beat me.

BTW, since I must have missed it, what did the pot winner end up having anyway?

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: 95SS

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: 95SS
Am I the only one who senses something wrong with this?

Since I was big blind I stayed in.

I think someone felt he was bluffing so he called him but since I was the last one to decide and someone else called, I figured it wasn't worth it.

How can there be two or more people to act before you after the flop when you are the BB? You are in second position, only one player acts before you (SB). Just my skeptical nature, I guess.

Well, umm if 3 aces come out wouldn't you check?

Yea, I would. But I was wondering because you never said you had checked. That could change play a little, since the person who went all in didn't have the fourth A, he could have been in a world of hurt, since most people I know and play with would check-raise in that situation, if they held quads on the flop. Hell, I've held PP K's against a board of QQQ, check-raised big to see what would happen, one caller, turn comes rags, I bet & he calls, river A, I bet, he raises, I call (pot odds were too great), he turns A5 to beat me.

BTW, since I must have missed it, what did the pot winner end up having anyway?

I think we were all taken aback by 3 As showing up.

I wasn't sure what to do so I checked. Then the next guy went all in. The rest of the people folded until the guy right next to me called. I folded.

The all-in guy won with king high and some other card.

 

[95SS]

Originally posted by: Leejai
Nevar! At least bet the pot (since it sounds like a small pot if he was allowed to stay in at BB). Esp. w/ a K-8 kicker..only hand that could beat you really is pocket rockets, but i doubt they'd allow you to see the flop for free...

K8 is a huge dog to K9,KT,KJ,KQ,KK,A*,22,33,44,55,66,77,88,99,TT,JJ,QQ. And that's just after the flop. If the turn misses him, he also now trails any hand that holds the turn card.

 

[95SS]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: 95SS

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: 95SS
Am I the only one who senses something wrong with this?

Since I was big blind I stayed in.

I think someone felt he was bluffing so he called him but since I was the last one to decide and someone else called, I figured it wasn't worth it.

How can there be two or more people to act before you after the flop when you are the BB? You are in second position, only one player acts before you (SB). Just my skeptical nature, I guess.

Well, umm if 3 aces come out wouldn't you check?

Yea, I would. But I was wondering because you never said you had checked. That could change play a little, since the person who went all in didn't have the fourth A, he could have been in a world of hurt, since most people I know and play with would check-raise in that situation, if they held quads on the flop. Hell, I've held PP K's against a board of QQQ, check-raised big to see what would happen, one caller, turn comes rags, I bet & he calls, river A, I bet, he raises, I call (pot odds were too great), he turns A5 to beat me.

BTW, since I must have missed it, what did the pot winner end up having anyway?

I think we were all taken aback by 3 As showing up.

I wasn't sure what to do so I checked. Then the next guy went all in. The rest of the people folded until the guy right next to me called. I folded.

The all-in guy won with king high and some other card.

But what was the other card? If it was better than an 8, you were drawing almost dead to a win after the flop.

BTW, it was a very good fold. :beer:

 

[Doggiedog]

I think it was a jack. I'm not sure though. The guy that called had a jack too I believe but that was his high card.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Leejai
Nevar! At least bet the pot (since it sounds like a small pot if he was allowed to stay in at BB). Esp. w/ a K-8 kicker..only hand that could beat you really is pocket rockets, but i doubt they'd allow you to see the flop for free...

Too bad you're on the other coast, otherwise I'd invite you to our next poker game.:evil:

 

[amoeba]

lots of poker noobs on ATOT it seems, at least those who advocated the call.

 

[Ketteringo]

Originally posted by: amoeba
lots of poker noobs on ATOT it seems, at least those who advocated the call.

Yup. I hope they all have party poker accounts 🙂

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: Ketteringo

Originally posted by: amoeba
lots of poker noobs on ATOT it seems, at least those who advocated the call.

Yup. I hope they all have party poker accounts 🙂

Anyone who advocated the call, please inform me of your geographic location. Perhaps I may invite you to my next game. 🙂