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Missouri: where Republicans don't believe in Delta but where Delta believes in them

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article252675203.html

Low vax parts of the country are poised for disaster but Rs can't bring themselves to take it seriously because they are too deep in the cult.
Parents balk at mask mandates in schools, the R dominated state legislature opposes vaccination mandates for health workers. Leaders waffle on vax advice to constituents.
As the rest of the country keeps a wary eye on Missouri, the state offers a grim prophecy for other regions where vaccination rates remain low.

“It looks to me as though Missouri is the tip of delta’s spear,” said William Schaffner, a professor of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee.
 

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Covid will be endemic, US is not trying to eradicate Covid unlike some countries.

We could have eradicated it except for all of the people like you who weren't getting vaccinated when it became available because the gubbmint wasn't going to tell them what to do, because they didn't need it seeing as how they were young and strong, because the vaccine was rushed, because there might be side effects later, because they didn't give a damn about everybody else - all of which you used as arguments at one time or another for not getting vaccinated.

I know you said eventually you did get the vaccine but if everyone like you had just gotten vaccinated as soon as possible, we would be home free now. So if you're looking for someplace to put blame, just look in your mirror.
 

UNCjigga

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Who is ready for your 3rd dose?


If insurance covers it, I’ll gladly take it—though probably not until November/December (timed for maximum effectiveness over holiday travel.)

By then I’m guessing we’ll also have more data on effectiveness of the first 2 doses vs. risks of a 3rd dose and info on the dominant strains at that time. Pfizer may be jumping the gun, but glad they’re filing the paperwork early to ensure an adequate supply over winter.
 
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This thread needs more Kristi Noem, the SD Gov who took a victory lap at CPAC and called out other GOP governors like DeWine and Hogan for their lockdowns.

Never mind that her state had the 3rd worst rate of infections and one of the highest per capita death rates in the country. And here she is essentially screaming “YOU’RE WELCOME!!!”

 

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Missouri: where Republicans don't believe in Delta but where Delta believes in them

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article252675203.html

Low vax parts of the country are poised for disaster but Rs can't bring themselves to take it seriously because they are too deep in the cult.

This pandemic, It seems has allowed the Republicans/Religious right, etc. to actively harm themselves and their loved ones in pursuit of identity politics. They’ve made COVID denial into their identity,

It's actually more than just identity politics - That’s sort of a dressed-up way of describing the more fundamental thing that’s actually happening.

To wit: “I would rather die than give those people power over me.”

That’s all it’s ever been. And that’s why current events are not surprising. The reactionary right rejects the authority of people over whom they have moral or tribal objections — in this case, scientists with their “anti-God agenda,” and "lefty types" who insist that we pull together as equals - and they refuse to allow their own self-perceived authority to be eroded or compromised by those enemies. And it’s such an imperative that they’re willing to die for it.

Naturally, this leads to a whole secondary conversation about how these people’s perception of their diluted power is actually correct, but that it’s the result of economic concentration and they’ve been hoodwinked into blaming the wrong people. But the key takeaway is that this is an existential conflict about power.
 

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MtnMan

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From a very remote, sparsely populated county.
Population 8,500 vaccinated 2,800.
Trump carried the county with 79.6% of the vote, out of 4600 votes cast.

and...
 

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From a very remote, sparsely populated county.
Population 8,500 vaccinated 2,800.
Trump carried the county with 79.6% of the vote, out of 4600 votes cast.

and...
This is such a weird right winger thing, they fail to face reality until it affects them personally. You see it with plenty of other things too, like abortion, healthcare, welfare, views on gay people etc..
 
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Also, Rob Schneider is a covidiot. Of course his intelligence wasn't ever really in question after the career choices he's made.

That's not even noteworthy as he's been saying stupid (think he's a rabid anti-vaxxer in general) shit for years.

This is such a weird right winger thing, they fail to face reality until it affects them personally. You see it with plenty of other things too, like abortion, healthcare, welfare, views on gay people etc..

Hell even then they don't face reality. They make up other fantastical bullshit to believe instead, which is why there's so many reports of people dying from COVID still saying its a hoax until they flatline.
 

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This is such a weird right winger thing, they fail to face reality until it affects them personally. You see it with plenty of other things too, like abortion, healthcare, welfare, views on gay people etc..

It's not real till it comes crashing through their front door.
 
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Missouri: where Republicans don't believe in Delta but where Delta believes in them

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article252675203.html

Low vax parts of the country are poised for disaster but Rs can't bring themselves to take it seriously because they are too deep in the cult.

They don't refer to it as Misery for no reason.

LOTS of dumb people that are proud of how dumb they are there. And racism is integral to it as well.
 

MtnMan

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This is such a weird right winger thing, they fail to face reality until it affects them personally. You see it with plenty of other things too, like abortion, healthcare, welfare, views on gay people etc..
This county is also the leader in the state for unemployment rate, hitting 25% in the last decade. Betcha all them need no vaccine trump supporters didn't hesitate to suck off the teat.
 

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they cheered at CPAC at vaccination rate goals being missed https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...-hear-cpac-crowd-cheering-missed-vaccine-goal

it's time to recognize these people are not just idiots, but straight up evil.


Aren't these the people thinking COVID-19 was a Chinese bioweapon? How do those work as weapons? Only when the home team is vaccinated and the enemy population is not and gets wiped out. So by their logic, liberals and blue states will benefit.

Honestly, of these people are that anxious to remove themselves from the gene pool and voter rolls, do I really need to be that upset if they are doing this voluntarily?
 
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Should probably add Boris Johnson and his entire government to this category.

One week till they lift all restrictions (no mask mandates, no social-distancing, no work-from-home - we're officially giving up). Apparently the plan now is we have to 'learn to live with the virus'. Letting it run riot in a population where about 50% have been fully vaccinated and 50% not (a proportion of the latter partially vaccinated with just the first shot), while gambling that it doesn't, in such conditions, mutate to a form that can evade the vaccine-produced antibodies.

Johnson famously idolizes Winston Churchill and very much wants to emulate him. But if Boris were in charge back in 1940 it seems he wouldn't have given that 'we shall fight them on the beaches' speech, he'd have held out for as long as his attention span could stand it, then cracked and taken the first opportunity to let them invade, while telling the population that 'we shall just have to learn to live with Nazism'
 
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This thread needs more Kristi Noem, the SD Gov who took a victory lap at CPAC and called out other GOP governors like DeWine and Hogan for their lockdowns.

Never mind that her state had the 3rd worst rate of infections and one of the highest per capita death rates in the country. And here she is essentially screaming “YOU’RE WELCOME!!!”

Yeah but Sturgis happened so she was able to export death to all of America. Thank god for the pro-life right.
 

brycejones

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Aren't these the people thinking COVID-19 was a Chinese bioweapon? How do those work as weapons? Only when the home team is vaccinated and the enemy population is not and gets wiped out. So by their logic, liberals and blue states will benefit.

Honestly, of these people are that anxious to remove themselves from the gene pool and voter rolls, do I really need to be that upset if they are doing this voluntarily?
We have to care because unfortunately the impact of their stupidity doesn’t end with them.
 

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I just do not get it.

3 professional golfers have had to drop out of the upcoming British Open due to positive tests. And I did not see where any of them claimed to have already been vaccinated. They are professional athletes and their income depends on their playing their sport. Why, this late in the game, they aren't vaccinated makes no sense. I know Zach Johnson has not 1, but 2 children who are currently not old enough to get vaccinated. Why would you even take the chance? It makes me sad.
 

K1052

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I just do not get it.

3 professional golfers have had to drop out of the upcoming British Open due to positive tests. And I did not see where any of them claimed to have already been vaccinated. They are professional athletes and their income depends on their playing their sport. Why, this late in the game, they aren't vaccinated makes no sense. I know Zach Johnson has not 1, but 2 children who are currently not old enough to get vaccinated. Why would you even take the chance? It makes me sad.

Watson had a confirmed close contact even though he's vaccinated I think he had to withdraw according to the rules. Golfers, as a group, are typically very conservative and I would not be surprised at all if their figures for vaccination were well below the general population.
 

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Watson had a confirmed close contact even though he's vaccinated I think he had to withdraw according to the rules. Golfers, as a group, are typically very conservative and I would not be surprised at all if their figures for vaccination were well below the general population.

Sorry. Was talking about Zach Johnson, Hideki Matsuyama and Louis de Jager. I should have specified.
 

hal2kilo

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Watson had a confirmed close contact even though he's vaccinated I think he had to withdraw according to the rules. Golfers, as a group, are typically very conservative and I would not be surprised at all if their figures for vaccination were well below the general population.
Look at their work environment. They live in a complete fantasy land. Not too many public golf courses on the PGA tour. Ever hear of country club Republicans.
 

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This is such a weird right winger thing, they fail to face reality until it affects them personally. You see it with plenty of other things too, like abortion, healthcare, welfare, views on gay people etc..
Some people believe that conservatives lack empathy for others as a result of their tendency to not believe something until it affects them personally, which is a statement that would likely get a lot of flack if it were asserted on conservative forums. Now, I don't necessarily believe that they lack empathy, but who they show empathy to is highly subjective. Veritasium did a video on "Is Success Luck or Hard Work?" and I believe that conservatives believe that success is primarily due to hard work while liberals believe that luck plays a more significant role. Therefore, if a person subscribes to the "hard work leads to success" world view, any faults or issues in someone else's life is a result of them making poor decisions or them not working hard enough. Conversely, when someone has success in their life, they believe that it must have been entirely due to their own decisions, regardless of what natural advantages were afforded to them purely due to factors outside of their control. This concept is what conservatives call "personal responsibility", that humans are in control of and decide their own outcomes.

Going back to the topic of empathy, when conservatives don't believe something is happening until it happens to them, it's because they believe that when it affects someone else, it's because of that other person's own fault, which is the "It's your problem, not mine" or "Fuck you, got mine" mentality. Conservatives don't believe that racism or other inequalities are an issue because they aren't negatively affected by it. However, any benefits granted to them by being white or privileged they associate with their own inherent "talent" or "hard work", even though it wasn't something they had control over to begin with. I believe that when conservatives are empathetic, it's usually to those who get a natural advantage taken away from them, i.e. when privilege is taken away from someone who enjoys that privilege, it feels like unfairness to the person because they "worked hard" and "didn't deserve it". You can apply this to taxes, healthcare, welfare, social rights, etc.

Conservatives feel like they shouldn't be taxed more because they worked hard to earn their money, even if it was made through accumulated generational wealth. Conservatives feel like they shouldn't have to pay for other's welfare because they don't see themselves as needing to rely on it, yet others are using it, even though the people who depend on it may not have the same privileges afforded to them, which would help them get off welfare. Conservatives feel like LGBTQ people shouldn't be granted the same protections because they believe that being LGBTQ is a choice and not something that was outside of that person's control. Anyways, the list goes on and on.
 

MtnMan

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Cleansing the gene pool, one idiot at a time.

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