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mect

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I feel bad for the intelligent portion of Idaho (it really is a beautiful state), but unfortunately is filled with idiots.


"Ashley Carvalho was a few hours into her night shift as a doctor in a Boise, Idaho, hospital earlier this month when she got a text from her fiancé asking how she was doing.

She thought about the COVID-19 patient, a man in his 40s, whose condition had deteriorated within an hour of her starting work that night. She thought of the conversation she’d had to have with his young family about switching to comfort care and then his death soon after.

She thought about the second person with COVID who'd died shortly after that, as well as the other patients filling up all 14 beds in the intensive care unit — all with the same disease, all unvaccinated — who required her attention.

She thought of the abuse she’d received from one man’s angry family members, who had berated her for not treating him with ivermectin, a deworming drug falsely promoted as a cure in conspiracy circles but that the FDA has warned against using in COVID patients. She thought of how police had to remove the man’s family after his son-in-law told her, “If you don’t do this, I have a lot of ways to get people to do something, and they’re all sitting in my gun safe at home.”

Her eyes welling with tears, she took a selfie and sent it to her fiancé: “It’s going like this,” she wrote."

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"Idaho is what a state looks like when it fails to flatten the curve. As in other Mountain States, beds are running out. In response to the crush of patients, which is not expected to slow anytime soon, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare (DHW) last week activated crisis standards of care. When implemented by hospitals, these plans, first formulated in April 2020 with the hope they would rarely need to be used, help guide overwhelmed medical workers on how to ration scarce resources.

The crisis standards apply to all patients — not just those with COVID-19. “There are already many patients who’ve had to delay surgery or other treatments, and if you end up in a hospital, you may receive treatment in a waiting room or a hallway,” said DHW Director Dave Jeppesen. “Each nurse and doctor will be taking care of more patients than usual. You may have to wait much longer than normal for care. You may even have to be transferred to a care facility that could be hours away.”

Last Thursday, the day the crisis standards were first activated, one older adult came into a hospital after she suffered a stroke. In normal times, she would be held overnight for monitoring, but instead she was discharged that same day."
 

RY62

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We're just not going to agree fully here. You keep mentioning "alternative prevention" when the current vaccines are effective and safe. If a new variant escapes vaccine immunity, then yeah we're fucked and strategies will certainly have to change. Treatments are important, but the key takeaway is that vaccinated people who contract the virus (infection) seldom develop severe COVID-19 (the disease). Again, vaccines don't stop transmission of delta cold, but they do a good job of limiting bad outcomes....

For some reason, you've already concluded that vaccines don't adequately prevent severe COVID-19 and deaths, but the data strongly refutes that. There's a massive disparity in outcomes from the most vaccinated states to the least vaccinated:

Yeah, I think we actually agree for the most part. Some people seem to think that the vaccines will end covid in much the same way as vaccines have done with smallpox, polio and measles. I see these vaccines more like the flu shots where, within a year, they'll become mostly ineffective. I think this fall and winter will let us know for sure.

I'm always reevaluating my opinion as more information becomes available but, right now, I don't see the current crop of vaccines being the answer for a return to normal. You think it's been tough getting people to take a vaccine in the first place, try getting a majority of the population to take one every year.
 

RY62

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On topic post:

A California mother of four who was “proudly” anti-vax, particularly anti-COVID-19 vaccine, died of complications due to the coronavirus.
Kristen Lowery, 40, was a figurehead on social media, proclaiming her anti-mask and vaccine views that garnered high praise. She died on Sept. 15



 

Heartbreaker

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KMFJD

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Yeah, every model showed them what would happen if they lifted the restrictions...(models were very accurate)

Imaging leaning into science, data, and modeling instead of thoughts and prayers.
 
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Heartbreaker

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Yeah, every model showed them what would happen if they lifted the restrictions...(models were very accurate)

Not only that, they delayed asking for aid until after the election, likely because they were hoping for a Conservative Federal Government, so they wouldn't have to ask Liberals for help... Meanwhile the health care workers were pleading for them to bring aid from anywhere: Army, Red Cross...

The Covid crisis has really brought into focus how dangerously detached from reality Right Wing politicians are.
 

hal2kilo

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DarthKyrie

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They are correct don't use hydrogen peroxide. The correct treatment is Clorox bleach. Since you're breathing it get the kind with the lemon scent so the treatment is pleasant.

I would prefer that they mix that bleach with ammonia and breathe in really deeply while their head is over the bucket.
 
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hal2kilo

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It's got to be thousand island (McDonalds Big Mac secret sauce). That will be the vehicle of dispersal. How devious.
 

manly

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I feel bad for the intelligent portion of Idaho (it really is a beautiful state), but unfortunately is filled with idiots.

Awesome reporting, I was going to post it but you beat me to it. The comparison to Vietnam War vets is chilling.
 
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I feel bad for the intelligent portion of Idaho (it really is a beautiful state), but unfortunately is filled with idiots.


"Ashley Carvalho was a few hours into her night shift as a doctor in a Boise, Idaho, hospital earlier this month when she got a text from her fiancé asking how she was doing.

She thought about the COVID-19 patient, a man in his 40s, whose condition had deteriorated within an hour of her starting work that night. She thought of the conversation she’d had to have with his young family about switching to comfort care and then his death soon after.

She thought about the second person with COVID who'd died shortly after that, as well as the other patients filling up all 14 beds in the intensive care unit — all with the same disease, all unvaccinated — who required her attention.

She thought of the abuse she’d received from one man’s angry family members, who had berated her for not treating him with ivermectin, a deworming drug falsely promoted as a cure in conspiracy circles but that the FDA has warned against using in COVID patients. She thought of how police had to remove the man’s family after his son-in-law told her, “If you don’t do this, I have a lot of ways to get people to do something, and they’re all sitting in my gun safe at home.”

Her eyes welling with tears, she took a selfie and sent it to her fiancé: “It’s going like this,” she wrote."

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"Idaho is what a state looks like when it fails to flatten the curve. As in other Mountain States, beds are running out. In response to the crush of patients, which is not expected to slow anytime soon, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare (DHW) last week activated crisis standards of care. When implemented by hospitals, these plans, first formulated in April 2020 with the hope they would rarely need to be used, help guide overwhelmed medical workers on how to ration scarce resources.

The crisis standards apply to all patients — not just those with COVID-19. “There are already many patients who’ve had to delay surgery or other treatments, and if you end up in a hospital, you may receive treatment in a waiting room or a hallway,” said DHW Director Dave Jeppesen. “Each nurse and doctor will be taking care of more patients than usual. You may have to wait much longer than normal for care. You may even have to be transferred to a care facility that could be hours away.”

Last Thursday, the day the crisis standards were first activated, one older adult came into a hospital after she suffered a stroke. In normal times, she would be held overnight for monitoring, but instead she was discharged that same day."
They're finally going to get their death panels.
If things truly reach their worst in Idaho, the crisis standards guide doctors in triaging which patients receive care and which won’t.
 

Bitek

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The Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America is warning Covidiots that breathing in Hydrogen Peroxide is bad, mmmkay! Good lord! Is there any dangerous, non-approved chemical they won’t try?

https://community.aafa.org/blog/danger-don-t-nebulize-hydrogen-peroxide-and-breathe-it-to-try-to-treat-or-prevent-covid-19?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+asthma-allergy+(Asthma+and+Allergy+Foundation+of+America:+Blog+Posts)

Can't help but think of this

And Trump is a less fit immortan joe who doesn't know how to drive
 

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The latest conspiracy theory is that Covid doesn’t kill, hospitals do. Apparently hospitals are killing people maliciously by putting them on ventilators instead of deworming them.

Stressed Healthcare Workers Face Another Threat: Harassment | MedPage Today

Healthcare workers across the country, already strained by the demands of caring for COVID-19 patients, face another threat in the workplace: medical conspiracy theorists harassing them with phone calls, and even showing up at their hospitals.
Last week, a Chicago hospital treating known anti-vaxxer and QAnon supporter Veronica Wolski for COVID became the target of such threats.

Conspiracy theories, Qanon and the pandemic have caused a Parkland shooting survivors Dad to believe that the massacre was a hoax and his son was a paid crisis actor.

I’m a Parkland Shooting Survivor. QAnon Convinced My Dad It Was All a Hoax. (vice.com)
 

brycejones

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how in the hell do they come up with this insanity, brain damage, sniffing petrol ? wtf
Facebook, conservative media outlets, twitter, etc. Basically the technologies that were supposed to propel us to a new age of enlightenment and shared knowledge are instead turning us into a nation of angry, ignorant, dumb asses.
 

dawp

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how in the hell do they come up with this insanity, brain damage, sniffing petrol ? wtf
I would bet the bulk of misinformation originates in Russia to damage us and then spread on FB by conservatives.
 
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Dave_5k

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how in the hell do they come up with this insanity, brain damage, sniffing petrol ? wtf
It will certainly free up critical space in the ICUs for those actually wanting to live ~ if the anti-vaxxers will all just kick themselves out of the ICU. Better yet anti-vaxxers, just stay away from the hospital in the first place.