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K1052 said:
Willing to bet livestock medications already come with pretty strong disclaimers in the "not for human use" area..
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Ivermectin is considered one of the most important HUMAN drugs available by WHO: eEML - Electronic Essential Medicines List (essentialmeds.org)

And its creators won the Nobel Prize for it in 2015: Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - PubMed (nih.gov)

So its not just for livestock. It has plenty of human uses, too.
 
blackangst1 said:
Ivermectin is considered one of the most important HUMAN drugs available by WHO: eEML - Electronic Essential Medicines List (essentialmeds.org)

And its creators won the Nobel Prize for it in 2015: Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - PubMed (nih.gov)

So its not just for livestock. It has plenty of human uses, too.
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My comment was directed at the horse paste swilling morons of America who think it fights COVID.
 
K1052 said:
My comment was directed at the horse paste swilling morons of America who think it fights COVID.
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What I don't get is why ivermectin is even necessary as all the same morons have told us repeatedly that hydroxycholoquine destroyed the virus. What happened?

It is so depressing for my view of humanity that such a large portion of America continues to shove anything they can find into their bodies to defeat the virus except for the one thing clinically proven to defeat the virus.
 
fskimospy said:
What I don't get is why ivermectin is even necessary as all the same morons have told us repeatedly that hydroxycholoquine destroyed the virus. What happened?

It is so depressing for my view of humanity that such a large portion of America continues to shove anything they can find into their bodies to defeat the virus except for the one thing clinically proven to defeat the virus.
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Owning the libs by having slow painful preventable deaths is just too important.
 
KMFJD said:
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wtf Theo
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Seems like he already has CTE from his playing days.

fskimospy said:
What I don't get is why ivermectin is even necessary as all the same morons have told us repeatedly that hydroxycholoquine destroyed the virus. What happened?

It is so depressing for my view of humanity that such a large portion of America continues to shove anything they can find into their bodies to defeat the virus except for the one thing clinically proven to defeat the virus.
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I forget where I read it, but the line was that this whole ivermectin nonsense is like taking Cialis for a headache.
 
MtnMan said:
Well don't they know already because of the chip injected when they were vaccinated? Come on people, your fucking bullshit conflicts with your other bullshit.
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While posting on Twitter that has access to your location data, that the Feds can subpoena.
 
blackangst1 said:
Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - PubMed (nih.gov)
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So the authors of that "paper" include:
1) The main person that was pushing for hydroxychloroquine (Peter McCullough): https://thehill.com/opinion/healthc...researchers-need-access-to-hydroxychloroquine
2) A person who is selling Covid-19 treatments (Thomas Borody): https://topeliatherapeutics.com/team
3) And people who don't do research into respiratory diseases, other than to tout Ivermectin everywhere they can go.

The 7 studies they used include these three (I'm using the author's own words)
1) "One found no evidence of IVM efficacy"
2) "that compared IVM with two other drug treatment groups but not a placebo group and found no benefit"
3) "The study found no statistically significant symptom improvements with IVM treatment"
Then they did not include the other 13 studies that they found in this review, other than to mention that they exist.

They did include data that showed a winter dip of Covid-19 in Peru that corresponded with Ivermectin use. But, they failed to point out a winter dip occurred in many other countries at the same time and those countries did not use Ivermectin for Covid-19. Meaning at best, they show possible correlation at worst they ignored data from almost 200 countries that didn't support their theory.

Note: none of what I posted says Ivermectin should not be used and is not possibly an acceptable treatment. I'm just trying to point out how awful of a paper that was. I'd like some real papers with real statistically relevant numbers of patients and unbiased authors before I ever think Ivermectin is anything but a fad.
 
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dullard said:
So the authors of that "paper" include:
1) The main person that was pushing for hydroxychloroquine (Peter McCullough): https://thehill.com/opinion/healthc...researchers-need-access-to-hydroxychloroquine
2) A person who is selling Covid-19 treatments (Thomas Borody): https://topeliatherapeutics.com/team
3) And people who don't do research into respiratory diseases, other than to tout Ivermectin everywhere they can go.

The 7 studies they used include these three (I'm using the author's own words)
1) "One found no evidence of IVM efficacy"
2) "that compared IVM with two other drug treatment groups but not a placebo group and found no benefit"
3) "The study found no statistically significant symptom improvements with IVM treatment"

They did include data that showed a winter dip of Covid-19 in Peru that corresponded with Ivermectin use. But, they failed to point out a winter dip occurred in many other countries at the same time and those countries did not use Ivermectin for Covid-19. Meaning at best, they show possible correlation at worst they ignored data from almost 200 countries that didn't support their theory.
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It’s really sad/weird how people would claim that both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments because that inherently means large quantities of doctors are letting their patients die instead of giving them cheap and easy treatments. Nobody seems to be able to adequately explain why doctors would do that.
 
blackangst1 said:
Ivermectin is considered one of the most important HUMAN drugs available by WHO: eEML - Electronic Essential Medicines List (essentialmeds.org)

And its creators won the Nobel Prize for it in 2015: Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19 - PubMed (nih.gov)

So its not just for livestock. It has plenty of human uses, too.
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When your paper needs to sell itself by leaning on "Nobel Prize!" then it's already a sign it's trying hard.

Actually, the entire first paragraph is really poorly written, and this is a review article... But I'll read and see where it goes
 
blackangst1 said:
You should do some research.
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What the fuck are you on about? People are literally going to their vet and getting the horse version.

Rather than waiting to get the drug through proper channels, people are instead getting equestrian prescriptions through their vets and using horse-sized doses on themselves, Julie Weber, president of the American Association of Poison Control Centers, told ABC News.
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I'm guessing a "who me" is coming up soon.

www.businessinsider.com

People are poisoning themselves trying to treat or prevent COVID-19 with a horse de-worming drug

Poison control is fielding calls from people using high doses of ivermectin obtained from veterinary offices in a flawed attempt to prevent COVID-19.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
fskimospy said:
It’s really sad/weird how people would claim that both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments because that inherently means large quantities of doctors are letting their patients die instead of giving them cheap and easy treatments. Nobody seems to be able to adequately explain why doctors would do that.
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hydroxychloroquine is not effective. Ive never thought so.
 
JD50 said:
What the fuck are you on about? People are literally going to their vet and getting the horse version.



I'm guessing a "who me" is coming up soon.

www.businessinsider.com

People are poisoning themselves trying to treat or prevent COVID-19 with a horse de-worming drug

Poison control is fielding calls from people using high doses of ivermectin obtained from veterinary offices in a flawed attempt to prevent COVID-19.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Dont underestimate the stupidity of people 🙂 Its available from a regular doctor.
 
People just love to bring up India to support it

Conspiracy theories about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine
A conspiracy theory going around at the moment is that India began treating people en masse with hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin and that was responsible for the fall in cases and deaths.

AAP fact checked the claim and found it was baseless.

"There is no evidence that new guidance on the use of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine led to a reduction in COVID-19 cases in India," they found.

"In fact, hydroxychloroquine was reported to be in widespread use well prior to the country's second-wave outbreak."

Experts — including the ivermectin's manufacturers — have repeatedly said there was no evidence the drugs were effective in treating COVID-19.

India may be reaching 'endemicity' after emerging from second COVID-19 wave - ABC News
 
desy said:
People just love to bring up India to support it

Conspiracy theories about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine
A conspiracy theory going around at the moment is that India began treating people en masse with hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin and that was responsible for the fall in cases and deaths.

AAP fact checked the claim and found it was baseless.

"There is no evidence that new guidance on the use of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine led to a reduction in COVID-19 cases in India," they found.

"In fact, hydroxychloroquine was reported to be in widespread use well prior to the country's second-wave outbreak."

Experts — including the ivermectin's manufacturers — have repeatedly said there was no evidence the drugs were effective in treating COVID-19.

India may be reaching 'endemicity' after emerging from second COVID-19 wave - ABC News
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in other news, water is wet
 
fskimospy said:
It’s really sad/weird how people would claim that both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments because that inherently means large quantities of doctors are letting their patients die instead of giving them cheap and easy treatments. Nobody seems to be able to adequately explain why doctors would do that.
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The guys I work with would say it's because the doctors and hospitals get paid more for treating patients in the ICU than they get for quick and easy cures.

This is also why they won't manufacture the cure for cancer which is just a powder that costs pennies and cures you in 4 days.
 
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