Court rules for NBC in George Zimmerman defamation case

[Londo_Jowo]

Article where it says that there will be an appeal? Or is this a case of 'it's only been on the ground for a few minutes! It's still good! It's still good!'?

When this whole case started, I knew it was going to get thrown out because... 1st amendment. Darn pesky constitution, gettin in the way of everything!

Hey, you were wrong about me being someone trying to hide his identity, Londo. Think about it.

I still think you're user/possibly previously banned that created a new account just post in this thread.

You can bet that Zimmerman's lawyers will seek an appeal in this case as his rights entitle him to do.

 

[fskimospy]

I still think you're user/possibly previously banned that created a new account just post in this thread.

You can bet that Zimmerman's lawyers will seek an appeal in this case as his rights entitle him to do.

Can you? Who is going to pay for it?

 

[Newell Steamer]

Thousands of people want to kill him because of the improper way they presented things from the start ("in cold-blood," "Didn't have a scratch on him," etc) but "Oh, they apologized and fired the people who edited the 911 call. Problem solved. Everything is fixed. He doesn't deserve anything."

He chose to expose himself by being part of the neighborhood watch.

He could have just stayed home and lured waited for some kid to break in and then gun him down.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

 

[Sc0rp]

Make-believe. They asked if he was following, he confirmed, they said they didn't need him to do that, he said "OK" and was presumably heading back to his vehicle when the encounter happened exactly like he says. With not witnesses you have only your MSNBC-tainted imagination to fill in the blanks.

And the people I personally know who want him dead do not want him dead for the “100% correct" reasons given to me. They are all from people who insisted that Zimmerman was never attacked and was on top thanks to a 911 caller who only witnessed the aftermath AND what MSNBC said. I didn't pull that out of my ass. They don't think it escalated because they drank the Kool-aid and still think it was a racist hunting and gunning down a poor boy who ran and never threw a punch.

Ten seconds after leaving his truck, the operator said 'we don't need you to do that' he stayed out there walking about for how many minutes after that?

I didn't get any of my info from NBC. I don't watch tv. So try again on that one.

That witness only saw SIX SECONDS of the altercation and even he admitted that it was dark and he couldn't really tell what was going on.

Trayvon did not have a duty to retreat, he had a right to ask Zimmerman why he was being followed and he had a right to use force if he believed Zimmerman was going to harm him. Based on what Zimmerman himself said of the incident, I would have probably shot Zimmerman and walked in that situation because he admitted that he reached behind his back for something. What was he reaching for? Is anyone obligated to wait and see? Are we somehow obligated to have mind-reading powers?

 

[Sc0rp]

I still think you're user/possibly previously banned that created a new account just post in this thread.

You can bet that Zimmerman's lawyers will seek an appeal in this case as his rights entitle him to do.

Ok, ask a mod then. I've been on my present IP address for years and I'm not using a proxy or anything. I'm telling you that it is a fact that you're wrong, but if you want to drive yourself insane or assume crazy things that are untrue based on no evidence, be my guest.

All it does is convince me that I'm more and more right in this exchange.

 

[Sc0rp]

Can you? Who is going to pay for it?

Yeah, nobody wants to think about it. He and his lawyer tried a fast one and got shut down. The man has been trying get rich schemes and AstroTurf PR stunts back to back since so many RWNJ's donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to him on the run up to his murder trial. It's time for Zimmerman to just go away. And stop wasting everyone's time with his antics.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Don't worry, I did ask them. New member 14 posts in only one thread isn't the normal posting pattern for a new user.

As for it making you right, keep on dreaming.

GZ lawyers will file for an appeal as per his rights, the 5th DCA will make a ruling one way or the other. Should the rule in GZ's favor they can also require that Judge Nelson recuse herself from this case as well.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Can you? Who is going to pay for it?

Who is going to pay for what? The appeal? GZ has the right to appeal and should be able to exercise his right the laws of the US and Florida provide to him.

 

[Sc0rp]

Don't worry, I did ask them. New member 14 posts in only one thread isn't the normal posting pattern for a new user.

As for it making you right, keep on dreaming.

GZ lawyers will file for an appeal as per his rights, the 5th DCA will make a ruling one way or the other. Should the rule in GZ's favor they can also require that Judge Nelson recuse herself from this case as well.

I said from jump street in my FIRST post that I felt compelled to sign up to respond to a post that was made earlier in this thread. I made no illusions to hide anything. Fact is I usually lurk the forums, but this is a subject that I know a lot about, so deal with it.

Call me when there is an official word on there being a successful appeal. I'll wait.

Also, for the record, I am most certainly right about you being completely wrong about me. Fact is that I have not told a single lie here. But hey, if you want to drive yourself bats over me, then by all means. Just keep in mind that it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

 

[Sc0rp]

Who is going to pay for what? The appeal? GZ has the right to appeal and should be able to exercise his right the laws of the US and Florida provide to him.

Appeals cost money. Lawyers cost money. Anything dealing with the court system costs money.

 

[fskimospy]

Who is going to pay for what? The appeal? GZ has the right to appeal and should be able to exercise his right the laws of the US and Florida provide to him.

Yes, who will pay for the appeal? Are his lawyers content to continue in a case that was just roundly dismissed? Maybe they are! (I have no idea) there's certainly a point at which his lawyers are going to start wondering how much it's worth to continue working for free though.

 

[Sc0rp]

Yes, who will pay for the appeal? Are his lawyers content to continue in a case that was just roundly dismissed? Maybe they are! (I have no idea) there's certainly a point at which his lawyers are going to start wondering how much it's worth to continue working for free though.

Bingo.

Not just that but Zimmermans lawyer has a history of being disciplined by the state bar for bad conduct. That kinda diffuses any confidence in his legal advice and any weight in him throwing his weight around.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yes, who will pay for the appeal? Are his lawyers content to continue in a case that was just roundly dismissed? Maybe they are! (I have no idea) there's certainly a point at which his lawyers are going to start wondering how much it's worth to continue working for free though.

The sole reason for the District Appeals Courts are the determine if there was an incorrect ruling by a judge in a criminal or civil case. GZ would be stupid not to appeal, as should the DCA overturns the ruling the suit against NBC would go forward.

 

[Sc0rp]

The sole reason for the District Appeals Courts are the determine if there was an incorrect ruling by a judge in a criminal or civil case. GZ would be stupid not to appeal, as should the DCA overturns the ruling the suit against NBC would go forward.

Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to stay in the truck. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut when interviewed by the police. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to not sue NBC. When there was a very high chance it would get thrown out. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to NOT ruin almost everything he's ever touched. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to NOT threaten people on the Internet. He wasn't smart enough to make a painting without tracing. He wasn't smart enough to falsely accuse AP of owing him something when they sent him a C&D. Just about the only smart thing he did was listen to O'Mara during the murder trial and NOT testify and NOT have an immunity hearing.

Him going away would be the smartest thing he has ever done. Seriously.

 

[CZroe]

Ten seconds after leaving his truck, the operator said 'we don't need you to do that' he stayed out there walking about for how many minutes after that?

I didn't get any of my info from NBC. I don't watch tv. So try again on that one.

That witness only saw SIX SECONDS of the altercation and even he admitted that it was dark and he couldn't really tell what was going on.

Trayvon did not have a duty to retreat, he had a right to ask Zimmerman why he was being followed and he had a right to use force if he believed Zimmerman was going to harm him. Based on what Zimmerman himself said of the incident, I would have probably shot Zimmerman and walked in that situation because he admitted that he reached behind his back for something. What was he reaching for? Is anyone obligated to wait and see? Are we somehow obligated to have mind-reading powers?

Who knows how many minutes. Possibly zero. He could have been attacked almost as soon as he disconnected. Your imagined scenario is preposterous and flys in the face of reason. Your perception is MSNBC-tainted because they set the tone for ALL media from the start.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to stay in the truck. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut when interviewed by the police. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to not sue NBC. When there was a very high chance it would get thrown out. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to NOT ruin almost everything he's ever touched. Zimmerman wasn't smart enough to NOT threaten people on the Internet.

Him going away would be the smartest thing he has ever done. Seriously.

What does any of this have to do with the civil suit against NBC? If I didn't know any better I would swear you were airdata.

Here's a little news for you. George Zimmerman was acquitted............end of story.

 

[Sc0rp]

Who knows how many minutes. Possibly zero. He could have been attacked almost as soon as he disconnected. Your imagined scenario is preposterous and flys in the face of reason. Your perception is MSNBC-tainted because they set the tone for ALL media from the start.

We have a timeline. The fight started about a minute after he ended the call with the dispatcher, I believe.

Why did he suddenly change his mind about meeting the police at the mailboxes? The police knew where the mailboxes and his truck were, why did he suddenly change his mind?

He claims that he was looking for an address. Why didn't he give one to the operator when he had him on the phone?

If Trayvon was the aggressor, why does the flow of that altercation move 40 feet toward Trayvons home and not toward Zimmermans truck or north with the energy of Trayvons alleged attack? Am I to believe that Zimmerman would try to retreat by running further into enemy territory?

You're saying that my opinion is MSNBC tainted, but I don't watch television. :|

All I did was look at the discovery that was released, listen to the unedited tapes and depositions and listened to & watched what Zimmerman said.

 

[emperus]

Appeals cost money. Lawyers cost money. Anything dealing with the court system costs money.

I do think they may attempt to appeal. They've invested this much money so far, an appeal, I don't think would be that much more.

I do believe they'd lose on appeal as well though.

 

[emperus]

We have a timeline. The fight started about a minute after he ended the call with the dispatcher, I believe.

Why did he suddenly change his mind about meeting the police at the mailboxes? The police knew where the mailboxes and his truck were, why did he suddenly change his mind?

He claims that he was looking for an address. Why didn't he give one to the operator when he had him on the phone?

If Trayvon was the aggressor, why does the flow of that altercation move 40 feet toward Trayvons home and not toward Zimmermans truck or north with the energy of Trayvons alleged attack? Am I to believe that Zimmerman would try to retreat by running further into enemy territory?

You're saying that my opinion is MSNBC tainted, but I don't watch television. :|

All I did was look at the discovery that was released, listen to the unedited tapes and depositions and listened to & watched what Zimmerman said.

You are fighting a losing battle. Facts and rational thought don't matter here.

 

[Sc0rp]

What does any of this have to do with the civil suit against NBC? If I didn't know any better I would swear you were airdata.

Here's a little news for you. George Zimmerman was acquitted............end of story.

Uh huh. I don't know what an air data is. But whatever. Have fun.

I was making an assessment of his intelligence not his guilt or lack thereof.

Also, OJ was acquitted 20 years ago. People still call him a murderer. The guys that killed emmit till were acquitted and they later admitted to murdering him in an interview with no repercussions. Jodie arias? Acquitted. People still call her a murderer. People still call Zimmerman a murderer and they have a right to do so based on their beliefs. Being acquitted does not mean you did not commit the offense and it doesn't mean that other people don't have their first amendment right to call you a murderer.

 

[Sc0rp]

You are fighting a losing battle. Facts and rational thought don't matter here.

I'm beginning to get that feeling.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You are fighting a losing battle. Facts and rational thought don't matter here.

Yes, we all know the real facts are why GZ was acquitted. All the innuendo, half truths, and fairy tales didn't meet the beyond a reasonable doubt threshold.

 

[Sc0rp]

Yes, we all know the real facts are why GZ was acquitted. All the innuendo, half truths, and fairy tales didn't meet the beyond a reasonable doubt threshold.

He was acquitted because the jury did not understand the concept of manslaughter and one of the jurors was hugely sympathetic to him before the trial even stated. You can thank Nelson for both of those.

 

[Catriona]

What does any of this have to do with the civil suit against NBC? If I didn't know any better I would swear you were airdata.

Here's a little news for you. George Zimmerman was acquitted............end of story.

Does that mean I'm not airdata any more? LOLOL

Don't worry about it, Sc0rp. Londo thinks everyone new who disagrees with him is an alt.