Court rules for NBC in George Zimmerman defamation case

[Orignal Earl]

Zimmerman's 46 911 and non-emergency police calls over an 8-year period include such horrors as:

"Pot hole in the road” … “it is deep and can cause damage to vehicles”
“Aggressive white and brown pitbull” sitting outside Zimmerman’s home
Fire alarm going off
Pothole “that is blocking the road”
Patrol request between March 13 and March 22
Children “running and playing in the street”
Zimmerman requested an officer meet him regarding a pit bull in his garage
Zimmerman was out of town and a motion alarm he monitors himself went off
Zimmerman reports “trash in roadway”

THAT FILTHY WHITE HISPANIC RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a crazy old man where I live does this too.

 

[CZroe]

I don't see what the problem is here.

They screwed up, they fired the employees who did this.

He doesn't deserve jack shit.

Thousands of people want to kill him because of the improper way they presented things from the start ("in cold-blood," "Didn't have a scratch on him," etc) but "Oh, they apologized and fired the people who edited the 911 call. Problem solved. Everything is fixed. He doesn't deserve anything."

 

[Sc0rp]

Did you not read the article?

Zimmerman: "This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around, looking about."

911 dispatcher: "OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?"

Zimmerman: "He looks black."

NBC edit: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."

Do you seriously not understand the immense difference in meaning between those statements?

NBC's conduct was abhorrent, and no amount of alleged wrongdoing on Zimmerman's part will change that. Is it really that difficult to dislike both Zimmerman and the lying shitheads who intentionally attempted to mislead the public?



In fact, only six of his calls were about suspicious black males, including the one about Trayvon Martin. The "46 calls" nonsense is yet another media attempt to mislead stupid people, much like the recent "74 school shootings since 2012" garbage.

Zimmerman's 46 911 and non-emergency police calls over an 8-year period include such horrors as:

"Pot hole in the road” … “it is deep and can cause damage to vehicles”
“Aggressive white and brown pitbull” sitting outside Zimmerman’s home
Fire alarm going off
Pothole “that is blocking the road”
Patrol request between March 13 and March 22
Children “running and playing in the street”
Zimmerman requested an officer meet him regarding a pit bull in his garage
Zimmerman was out of town and a motion alarm he monitors himself went off
Zimmerman reports “trash in roadway”

THAT FILTHY WHITE HISPANIC RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) I read the article.
2) I read the judges ruling and order that specifically spells out how the law was applied. Apparently, you need to read that and chill out.
3) the point about the calls is that Zimmerman was calling 911 over NON-EMERGENCIES and they were always minorities. Notice that I said minorities and not specifically black. For the record, I live in an area that used to have more serious crime problems than where Zimmerman lived. You know how many times I called the police in ten years? Less than six times. All of which were cases where someone actually did something wrong. I'm not calling the police over kids playing in the street or some guy walking down a public street. If I see something that's really wrong, I'll call. And look! No more crime problems!
4) NBC's behavior is NORMAL for a major network. If you want to see abhorrent, look at what Fox does on a daily basis. Look at what Breitbart did to Shirley Sherod a few years ago. That's abhorrent. Focussing on a couple sound bites is not abhorrent.
5) Zimmerman actually said that Tryavon looks like he's up to no good and that he looks black, I don't see what your problem is. With Shirley Sherod, breitbart cut her speech right before she said that she helped the farmers. If Zimmerman had said 'but, he has rights like anyone else and I'll respect them' and NBC had cut it, then you'd have a point, but you don't.

To me, neither statement you list is really that bad, the bad part was when Zimmerman called Trayvon one of those 'A-Holes' that 'always get away' right before getting out of his truck and running after him. If the statement you list is all Zimmerman said, you would have a point. But again, you DONT have a point. NBC didn't edit the tape to make it sound like Zimmerman called Trayvon one of those a-holes that always get away. If you ask anyone that was actually upset at Zimmerman, they wouldn't give a crap about the 'he looks black' part. Everyone understands that he was making a description to the operator. It is the contempt in his voice when he calls Martin an a-hole that always gets away shortly before leaving his truck and running after him while calling him a f-ing punk or c**n under his breath. Why are you ignoring what people were really upset about in favor of this AstroTurf BS about him saying 'he looks black' when the media as a whole spent way more time trying to figure out if he said punks or c**ns and focused way more on him calling Trayvon an a-hole that always gets away?

In many people's minds, him calling Trayvon an a-hole that always gets away right before leaving his truck and running after him makes them believe that Zimmerman wants to MAKE SURE that he doesn't get away.

 

[Sc0rp]

Thousands of people want to kill him because of the improper way they presented things from the start ("in cold-blood," "Didn't have a scratch on him," etc) but "Oh, they apologized and fired the people who edited the 911 call. Problem solved. Everything is fixed. He doesn't deserve anything."

Thousands of people want to 'kill him' because he was a vigilante that escalated a non-situation into a street situation with someone that wasn't doing anything wrong. Not because NBC came along AFTER people across the country were already pissed at him and focused on a couple sound bytes. They want to 'kill' him because he got out of his truck and chased someone that wasn't doing anything wrong and it is clear from the UNEDITED tape that Zimmerman had a lot of contempt for Martin before leaving his truck. Note: if people really wanted to kill Zimmerman, he would be dead by now. People mostly want him to go away and not profit.

 

[nehalem256]

I'm not even sure you are fully aware of the issue. It sounds like your still emotionally defending a psychopath.

He lost this case. It sounds like it was dismissed on motion. There was no libel or defamation. The edited quote sounded more like he was just giving a description. I didn't think it even made him sound racist. Again. everyone had the original 911 call to play in it's entirety. I'm not sure how you feel NBC of all networks had enough clout to defame him given that the actual unedited version was out in the ether, being played on other networks and even being played on NBC.

But again. ZImmermans team whipped you up to a frothing rage. And when most people supporting him have bailed (wife, attorney, friends). Here you are.. Good luck

So why did NBC fire their employee?

 

[emperus]

So why did NBC fire their employee?

You do understand the judge tossed the case. Hence, no libel or defamation. But you can send an email to NBC and ask them why they fired their employees.

 

[QuantumPion]

Thousands of people want to 'kill him' because NBC and the rest of the media painted a picture that he was a vigilante that escalated a non-situation into a street situation with someone that wasn't doing anything wrong. They want to 'kill' him because NBC and the rest of the media painted a picture that he got out of his truck and chased someone that wasn't doing anything wrong except for hunting down, ambushing, and attempting to murder Zimmerman, who was a pillar of the community.

Fixed that for you, you're welcome!

 

[Sc0rp]

So why did NBC fire their employee?

Standard knee-jerk procedure when there is an error like that. It is not an admission of libel in any way whatsoever.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Guess will have to see how Florida's 5th DCA rules on the appeal.

I have to wonder if they will require that Judge Nelson must also recuse herself considering her comments in the decision.

Based upon the undisputed facts as stated herein, this Court finds, as a matter of law, that Zimmerman became a limited purpose public figure. He voluntarily injected his views into the public controversy surrounding race relations and public safety in Sanford and pursued a course of conduct that ultimately led to the death of Martin and the specific controversy surrounding it.

Looks like Judge Nelson is one of those who were butthurt by the "Not Guilty" verdict and now taking it out on him in the civil suit.

 

[Sc0rp]

Fixed that for you, you're welcome!

Actually, I was 100% correct the first time. If you want to make arguments against what I said, make them.

Thousands of people want to 'kill him' because he was a vigilante that escalated a non-situation into a street situation with someone that wasn't doing anything wrong. Not because NBC came along AFTER people across the country were already pissed at him and focused on a couple sound bytes. They want to 'kill' him because he got out of his truck and chased someone that wasn't doing anything wrong and it is clear from the UNEDITED tape that Zimmerman had a lot of contempt for Martin before leaving his truck. Note: if people really wanted to kill Zimmerman, he would be dead by now. People mostly want him to go away and not profit.

1) Zimmerman factually left his truck and ran after Martin, who was in retreat.
2) Zimmerman was NO pillar of the community. In fact he was a nuisance that his own neighbors called the cops on several times.
3) there's no PROOF or MOTIVE supporting the idea that Trayvon wanted to murder Zimmerman. The way I see things, Trayvon had a right to ask why he was being followed and a right to defend himself (by meeting force with force or even INITIATING force in self defense) if he believed Zimmerman was going to imminently harm him, especially by Florida law and based on what Zimmerman himself said about the confrontation.

 

[Sc0rp]

Guess will have to see how Florida's 5th DCA rules on the appeal.

I have to wonder if they will require that Judge Nelson must also recuse herself considering her comments in the decision.



Looks like Judge Nelson is one of those who were butthurt by the "Not Guilty" verdict and now taking it out on him in the civil suit.

Why would she be butthurt when she was the one that made the rulings that helped Zimmerman get that not-guilty verdict? She was the presiding judge in the murder trial and she's allowed to draw conclusions based on what she saw during the trial that she presided over. An appeal wouldn't go anywhere because she's 100% correct. Zimmerman had no case. If Zimmerman did have a case, then every network on the face of the planet would be bankrupt by now.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that she's a judge doing her job? It isn't her job to only rule in Zimmermans favor. The point is that his entire case was defective from the get-go. Maybe he could get some money by suing his lawyer for malpractice or something.

 

[Greenman]

Pretty sad that the media is allowed to attack a man with falsified information and simply walk away. I hope that the appeal is heard by a judge that actually looks at the merits of the case and not the names of those involved.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Why would she be butthurt when she was the one that made the rulings that helped Zimmerman get that not-guilty verdict? She was the presiding judge in the murder trial and she's allowed to draw conclusions based on what she saw during the trial that she presided over. An appeal wouldn't go anywhere because she's 100% correct. Zimmerman had no case. If Zimmerman did have a case, then every network on the face of the planet would be bankrupt by now.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that she's a judge doing her job? It isn't her job to only rule in Zimmermans favor. The point is that his entire case was defective from the get-go. Maybe he could get some money by suing his lawyer for malpractice or something.

She tried her best to prevent any evidence (was successfully in most of the time, 5th DCA overrules her in the Crump issue) that would help the defense at every opportunity and still wound up with a "Not Guilty" verdict. You could tell she regretted having to tell the deputies to remove the GPS tracking devices and release Zimmerman after the verdict was read.

 

[emperus]

She tried her best to prevent any evidence (was successfully in most of the time, 5th DCA overrules her in the Crump issue) that would help the defense at every opportunity and still wound up with a "Not Guilty" verdict. You could tell she regretted having to tell the deputies to remove the GPS tracking devices and release Zimmerman after the verdict was read.

You're comments are absolutely ridiculous. IF you watched the case you would know that a lot of things the Prosecution wanted weren't allowed and the defense seem to have won on most of the big issues.

She was scared of allowing George Zimmerman an appeal. She probably regretted releasing him as she knew what information the prosecutors had that she didn't let in.

One being that George's Zimmerman's wife left him the day before the shooting. And I'm sure we'll get more information as to what went on in the Judge's Chambers as time moves on.

 

[Sc0rp]

She tried her best to prevent any evidence (was successfully in most of the time, 5th DCA overrules her in the Crump issue) that would help the defense at every opportunity and still wound up with a "Not Guilty" verdict. You could tell she regretted having to tell the deputies to remove the GPS tracking devices and release Zimmerman after the verdict was read.

Um, when the defense had their chance to depose crump, what did they get? NOTHING! Their stupid conspiracy theories from CTH led to a dead end.

She ruled that the defense could bring in the fact that Trayvon had THC in his system when he died. She allowed the defense to play their trumped up video of make-believe during closing statements. She dis-allowed the voice experts. She allowed the defenses 'expert', who was known to be a hired shill, to testify. She did not impeach Donnelly for violating court procedure by sitting in the courtroom during the trial for days before testifying. She allowed O'Mara to flat out lie in open court about the contents of a video on martins phone without repercussions. List goes on an on and on.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

LMAO!!!! Someone has started a new account to post in here to hide who they are.

I will wait to see what Florida's 5th DCA rules on the appeal. It won't surprise me when they overrule Judge Nelson yet again like that did during the Zimmerman trial and other cases she presided over during her tenure.

 

[Sc0rp]

LMAO!!!! Someone has started a new account to post in here to hide who they are.

I will wait to see what Florida's 5th DCA rules on the appeal. It won't surprise me when they overrule Judge Nelson yet again like that did during the Zimmerman trial and other cases she presided over during her tenure.

Ask a mod, I'm a totally new person here.

I'm willing to bet that there will be no successful appeal on this matter.

Every judge gets overruled from time to time, but the fact is that Zimmerman had NO case here whatsoever. If anyone disagrees, then cite a similar case where someone successfully sued a major network under these conditions? I'll wait.

But you know what? In order for an appeal to really fly, it would probably have to go all the way up to the supreme court because she cited rulings from the Supreme Court in her ruling.

 

[emperus]

Um, when the defense had their chance to depose crump, what did they get? NOTHING! Their stupid conspiracy theories from CTH led to a dead end.

She ruled that the defense could bring in the fact that Trayvon had THC in his system when he died. She allowed the defense to play their trumped up video of make-believe during closing statements. She dis-allowed the voice experts. She allowed the defenses 'expert', who was known to be a hired shill, to testify. She did not impeach Donnelly for violating court procedure by sitting in the courtroom during the trial for days before testifying. She allowed O'Mara to flat out lie in open court about the contents of a video on martins phone without repercussions. List goes on an on and on.

Exactly. Especially the hired shill part and not to forget allowing GZ's initial statements to the police as an excited utterance exception.

 

[Greenman]

Ask a mod, I'm a totally new person here.

I'm willing to bet that there will be no successful appeal on this matter.

Every judge gets overruled from time to time, but the fact is that Zimmerman had NO case here whatsoever. If anyone disagrees, then cite a similar case where someone successfully sued a major network under these conditions? I'll wait.

GM sued them and won when NBC falsified safety tests of their pickups.

 

[Sc0rp]

GM sued them and won when NBC falsified safety tests of their pickups.

Yeah, that's NOT the same. For starters, NBC actually fabricated something from nothing. Secondly, they are both giant corporations.

Not the same as NBC focusing on a couple sound bytes of what someone actually said on the night they killed someone else.

(Note, I made edits to my original comment)

Still waiting.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Cool beans, so we'll just wait to see what the Florida's 5th DCA has to say about the ruling.

Who's to say maybe this is Judge Nelson's way of getting forced out of the case without losing face. After all she doesn't want to add Judge that not only allowed GZ to get a "Not Guilty" verdict but allowed him to get a big payoff from NBC as well.

 

[Sc0rp]

Case is over Londo and Zimmerman had no case an appeal will go nowhere but costing time and money for nothing.

Also, I don't see why you think her being overturned is somehow saving face. If she didn't want the case, she would have simply said so. Has it ever occurred to anyone that she may have spent her entire vacation pouring over the case law to make certain that her ruling, whatever it would be, would stick?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

This civil ruling will be appealed and will be heard by the Florida's 5th DCA.

As I said will will wait for their ruling on the appeal............have a nice day.

 

[Sc0rp]

Article where it says that there will be an appeal? Or is this a case of 'it's only been on the ground for a few minutes! It's still good! It's still good!'?

When this whole case started, I knew it was going to get thrown out because... 1st amendment. Darn pesky constitution, gettin in the way of everything!

Hey, you were wrong about me being someone trying to hide his identity, Londo. Think about it.

 

[CZroe]

Actually, I was 100% correct the first time. If you want to make arguments against what I said, make them.

Thousands of people want to 'kill him' because he was a vigilante that escalated a non-situation into a street situation with someone that wasn't doing anything wrong. Not because NBC came along AFTER people across the country were already pissed at him and focused on a couple sound bytes. They want to 'kill' him because he got out of his truck and chased someone that wasn't doing anything wrong and it is clear from the UNEDITED tape that Zimmerman had a lot of contempt for Martin before leaving his truck. Note: if people really wanted to kill Zimmerman, he would be dead by now. People mostly want him to go away and not profit.

1) Zimmerman factually left his truck and ran after Martin, who was in retreat.
2) Zimmerman was NO pillar of the community. In fact he was a nuisance that his own neighbors called the cops on several times.
3) there's no PROOF or MOTIVE supporting the idea that Trayvon wanted to murder Zimmerman. The way I see things, Trayvon had a right to ask why he was being followed and a right to defend himself (by meeting force with force or even INITIATING force in self defense) if he believed Zimmerman was going to imminently harm him, especially by Florida law and based on what Zimmerman himself said about the confrontation.

Make-believe. They asked if he was following, he confirmed, they said they didn't need him to do that, he said "OK" and was presumably heading back to his vehicle when the encounter happened exactly like he says. With not witnesses you have only your MSNBC-tainted imagination to fill in the blanks.

And the people I personally know who want him dead do not want him dead for the “100% correct" reasons given to me. They are all from people who insisted that Zimmerman was never attacked and was on top thanks to a 911 caller who only witnessed the aftermath AND what MSNBC said. I didn't pull that out of my ass. They don't think it escalated because they drank the Kool-aid and still think it was a racist hunting and gunning down a poor boy who ran and never threw a punch.