Court rules for NBC in George Zimmerman defamation case

[Londo_Jowo]

So in other words we have yet another member of the butthurt crew who will only show up when GZ is in the news.

Who knows, airdata could have 3 or 4 alts. Funny how they come out of the woodwork at certain times.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

He was acquitted because the jury did not understand the concept of manslaughter and one of the jurors was hugely sympathetic to him before the trial even stated. You can thank Nelson for both of those.

No, he was acquitted because the evidence presented didn't disprove self defense which by Florida law overrides 2nd degree murder and manslaughter.

 

[Sc0rp]

Does that mean I'm not airdata any more? LOLOL

Don't worry about it, Sc0rp. Londo thinks everyone new who disagrees with him is an alt.

No problems. I'm quite amused. All he is doing is confirming my suspicions that he is often wrong about most things.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No problems. I'm quite amused. All he is doing is confirming my suspicions that he is often wrong about most things.

One thing for certain............George Zimmerman was acquitted!!!!!!

 

[Sc0rp]

No, he was acquitted because the evidence presented didn't disprove self defense which by Florida law overrides 2nd degree murder and manslaughter.

No, he was acquitted because the jury did not understand the concept of manslaughter. They asked the court for clarification on the definition of manslaughter and the court told them to ask a specific question. Instead of asking a specific question, one of the jurors convinced them that the standard for MANSLAUGHTER was effectively the same as the standard for first degree murder, which it isn't. They never made a finding that he was defending himself and the two jurors that have come forward have stated that Zimmerman was the cause of the incident. One of those jurors was the one that was sympathetic to him. If they found that he was defending himself, it would have been noted in their verdict, which it is not.

 

[Sc0rp]

One thing for certain............George Zimmerman was acquitted!!!!!!

One thing for certain..... HE HAS NO CASE AGAINST NBC!!!!!

I care not about him being acquitted, but don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

 

[Sc0rp]

So in other words we have yet another member of the butthurt crew who will only show up when GZ is in the news.

Who knows, airdata could have 3 or 4 alts. Funny how they come out of the woodwork at certain times.

You're calling people butthurt, yet swear up and down that everyone is Air data? I think there's a movie about something like this where a man sees the face of the man that stripped him of all his honor everywhere and he winds up wearing a straight jacket in a padded room. If not, there should be.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

One thing for certain..... HE HAS NO CASE AGAINST NBC!!!!!

I care not about him being acquitted, but don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

We'll have to see have the Florida 5th District Court of Appeals rules on the decision. It may very well be overturned.

 

[Catriona]

So in other words we have yet another member of the butthurt crew who will only show up when GZ is in the news.

Who knows, airdata could have 3 or 4 alts. Funny how they come out of the woodwork at certain times.

Since I freely acknowledged that there was insufficient evidence to convict GZ, my butt is just fine. If you like, I can give you references as to the fineness of my butt.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You're calling people butthurt, yet swear up and down that everyone is Air data? I think there's a movie about something like this where a man sees the face of the man that stripped him of all his honor everywhere and he winds up wearing a straight jacket in a padded room. If not, there should be.

Yep, we've seen your butthurt ilk in here and other places on the web crying foul ever since GZ was acquitted.

 

[Sc0rp]

We'll have to see have the Florida 5th District Court of Appeals rules on the decision. It may very well be overturned.

Ok, I predict that nothing will happen. Should I come rub it in your face when I'm proven right?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ok, I predict that nothing will happen. Should I come rub it in your face when I'm proven right?

Feel free to do whatever you like. At least I know that a 3 judge panel will have reviewed the ruling and deemed it was correct in accordance with Florida law. I'm sure if they do overturn the ruling you will become even more butthurt than you are over the acquittal.

 

[Sc0rp]

Yep, we've seen your butthurt ilk in here and other places on the web crying foul ever since GZ was acquitted.

Just like you're crying fowl because he can't shave some shekels off of NBC? Whatever. All I care about is that people keep using defective logic to form their conclusions and presenting them as credible. I never said that *I* believe GZ murdered Trayvon or that he left his truck with the intent to murder him. I do feel that he was overzealous and his behavior before and after the shooting was mostly uncalled for. I also feel that Zimmerman is responsible for his own troubles because, had he stayed in his truck instead of being a big goddamn hero, none of this would have ever happened. I've been on BOTH SIDES of this situation before. I could see me being followed, asking the person who's following me why he's doing it and using force to defend myself the instant he reaches behind his back instead of answering the question. I CAN'T see myself getting out of my truck or home to run after someone that's walking on a public street and is objectively not doing anything that is observably unlawful. Would I leave my home or vehicle to chase someone? Sure. If they are observably breaking the law or trespassing on my property. But walking down the street in my townhome complex or neighborhood? No, we aren't even having that conversation.

 

[Sc0rp]

Feel free to do whatever you like. At least I know that a 3 judge panel will have reviewed the ruling and deemed it was correct in accordance with Florida law. I'm sure if they do overturn the ruling you will become even more butthurt than you are over the acquittal.

You don't know any of that. At this point you're just speculating with wishful thinking like all those people that think that Zimmerman will be brought up on federal charges for violating TM's civil rights.

The bottom line is that you want Zimmerman to profit and you want NBC to be brought low. Doesn't look like it will happen. Better luck next time.

Also, for the record, even if there were a successful appeal of every point Nelson raised in her order (and there where a lot of them, any ONE of which would justify a dismissal) all it would do is start the jury trial and IF Zimmerman somehow wins a jury trial by some outstanding miracle (as that would involve out-arguing an army of lawyers that are flat-out better than Zimmerman's lawyer with some sort of 'My Cousin Vinny'-level silver bullet argument from the very bowels of the case law), the judge can still find that he suffered no damages and award him nothing or next to nothing. Maybe a can of fruit juice cocktail and a bag of skittles or something.

Taking one look at Zimmerman's lawyer's record tells me that it ain't happening.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Looking at Judge Nelson's record with the 5th DCA I would say GZ's chances are better than you think or are hoping.

 

[Sc0rp]

Looking at Judge Nelson's record with the 5th DCA I would say GZ's chances are better than you think or are hoping.

Judge Nelson has a good record as a judge. What are your talking about?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

LOL this will be appealed and overturned.

Zimmerman will be cashing a big fat NBC check by the time its all over.


I can't wait for the book. NYT best seller for sure. Then he can build a big mansion next to Ted Nugent's farm and paint all day.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

No, he was acquitted because the jury did not understand the concept of manslaughter. They asked the court for clarification on the definition of manslaughter and the court told them to ask a specific question. Instead of asking a specific question, one of the jurors convinced them that the standard for MANSLAUGHTER was effectively the same as the standard for first degree murder, which it isn't. They never made a finding that he was defending himself and the two jurors that have come forward have stated that Zimmerman was the cause of the incident. One of those jurors was the one that was sympathetic to him. If they found that he was defending himself, it would have been noted in their verdict, which it is not.

Bahahaha where do you get your news?


I swear you thug supporters have opinions which defy all logic.


Don't want dead? Don't viciously confront an innocent man and beat him over the head. Simple as that.

 

[Sc0rp]

Bahahaha where do you get your news?


I swear you thug supporters have opinions which defy all logic.


Don't want dead? Don't viciously confront an innocent man and beat him over the head. Simple as that.

I got my news from watching the trial and reading everything related to the trial.

I don't care about your little opinion, I'm not an unarmed teen. Based on the law and what Zimmerman himself said, I would have used force to defend myself from Zimmerman if I were in a similar situation and there wouldn't have been any sort of fight.

 

[Venix]

1) I read the article.

Then you're either a liar or an idiot. Your statement that "all they cut out is what the operator said" is patently false.

3) the point about the calls is that Zimmerman was calling 911 over NON-EMERGENCIES and they were always minorities.

Again, liar or idiot. You said he called police on minorities 46 times. He didn't.

Potholes aren't minorities. Fire alarms aren't minorities. Garage doors aren't minorities. The white guys he called about aren't minorities.

5) Zimmerman actually said that Tryavon looks like he's up to no good and that he looks black, I don't see what your problem is.

I'm going with "idiot." The recording was intentionally edited to make "he looks black" sound like the reason Zimmerman believed Martin was "up to no good." NBC admitted as much in the aftermath of firing the three producers responsible for the edit.

One of the most disappointing aspects of this case is the number of imbeciles who excuse atrocious behavior just because they don't like the victim. It's pathetic.

 

[Sc0rp]

LOL this will be appealed and overturned.

Zimmerman will be cashing a big fat NBC check by the time its all over.


I can't wait for the book. NYT best seller for sure. Then he can build a big mansion next to Ted Nugent's farm and paint all day.

The odds against this being appealed and overturned are monumental.

As for a book the joke book on amazon hasn't sold very well it seems and barely 20 people showed up at his last public appearance. I don't think any sort of book written by him would be a best seller. Sorry.

 

[Sc0rp]

Then you're either a liar or an idiot. Your statement that "all they cut out is what the operator said" is patently false.



Again, liar or idiot. You said he called police on minorities 46 times. He didn't.

Potholes aren't minorities. Fire alarms aren't minorities. Garage doors aren't minorities. The white guys he called about aren't minorities.



I'm going with "idiot." The recording was intentionally edited to make "he looks black" sound like the reason Zimmerman believed Martin was "up to no good." NBC admitted as much in the aftermath of firing the three producers responsible for the edit.

One of the most disappointing aspects of this case is the number of imbeciles who excuse atrocious behavior just because they don't like the victim. It's pathetic.

1) I read the article.
2) the sound bites they used had no effect on his image which was already in the garbage.
3) Zimmerman actually said worse things in the 911 call that make him steel like he profiled Trayvon, like calling him an 'A-Hole' that 'Always gets away' and a 'f-ing punk'. Unless NBC made him say those things, he has no case.
4) sticks and stones. It seems to me that you're more red in the face over this devastating loss on the behalf of Zimmerman and want to yell at someone instead of understanding that his litigation career is over.

Never heard of him calling the police on white guys. Let's hear the recording?

I think it is safe to say that the overwhelming number of calls to the police involved minorities conducting lawful activities or things that have nothing to do with the police.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Judge Nelson has a good record as a judge. What are your talking about?

Not with the 5th DCA, she's had several decisions overruled.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I am no First Amendment attorney, but I find it curious that this opinion would have dismissed the case based, at least in large part, on the notion of Zimmerman being a public figure - I would certainly not consider him one for purposes of a defamation claim.

I have always felt the greatest deficiency of the case was damages, since it seems unlikely to me that NBC's editing (which was certainly irresponsible) caused Zimmerman any harm. He was already a highly controversial figure (he was, after all, an admitted killer and on trial for the murder of a minor), vilified by many, when they aired their story, and frankly I don't think the editing materially affected anyone's perception of Zimmerman in a way that caused him any damages. What probably did harm him was the false portrayal of Martin by the media as a skinny 13-year-old honor student, but that is not actionable by Zimmerman.

I am amused, if unsurprised, that people are still predicting a life of wealth and privilege for Zimmerman despite all the evidence to the contrary. The NBC case, even if it's successful, will at best earn him enough money to pay off his criminal lawyers. No publisher will give him a significant advance on a book, and if he publishes one it won't sell. If any publisher thought otherwise, the book would have emerged by now. I would be surprised if Zimmerman ever achieves becoming middle class, much less wealthy.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I got my news from watching the trial and reading everything related to the trial.

I don't care about your little opinion, I'm not an unarmed teen. Based on the law and what Zimmerman himself said, I would have used force to defend myself from Zimmerman if I were in a similar situation and there wouldn't have been any sort of fight.

You very clearly watched the trial through skittle tinted glasses.

The trash thug was an experienced streetfighter. He went home, stashed his dope, then returned to assault an innocent upstanding citizen.

Trayvon brutally attacked zimmerman had out of nowhere, and had no right to do so. The situation (if you can call it that) had de-escalated.

If trayvon had killed zimmerman he would've been in jail for premed murder. He went home, and just couldn't handle that beige-ish brown-ish guy stopping from robbing yet another home in the community.


Even dee dee, the superstar witness of the decade, 100% supported zimmerman with every statement she made.