Court rules for NBC in George Zimmerman defamation case

[Londo_Jowo]

And rhere you have it folks, GZ was acquitted due to "white priviledge". I guess the prosecution threw the case on purpose due to GZ beng white as well.

 

[Orignal Earl]

And rhere you have it folks, GZ was acquitted due to "white priviledge". I guess the prosecution threw the case on purpose due to GZ beng white as well.

LMAO!!!!! Ownage, pure ownage.

The first step to recovery is to be able to admit when you are wrong.
If you can't make that step, your just going to keep running in circles

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You and a couple others have been running in circles throughout this entire thread, no matter what you or anyone else posts will change the fact GZ was acqitted on all charges.

 

[Orignal Earl]

You and a couple others have been running in circles throughout this entire thread, no matter what you or anyone else posts will change the fact GZ was acqitted on all charges.

The GZ verdict does not affect me in any way possible.
My posts in this thread have only been about how GZ is a White Hispanic and establishing that the "Liberal Media" did not just make up the term.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Thank you for admitting that your whole purpose was to push forth irrelevant information that had nothing to do with either the criminal trial or civil suit.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Thank you for admitting that your whole purpose was to push forth irrelevant information that had nothing to do with either the criminal trial or civil suit.

I don't know, I'd suggest you reread the thread..but you've already convinced me that you are incapable of doing it without prejudice

 

[emperus]

You and a couple others have been running in circles throughout this entire thread, no matter what you or anyone else posts will change the fact GZ was acqitted on all charges.

And what pray tell, does GZ being acquitted have at all to do with this topic?

You seem to misunderstand the verdict. The verdict was not a declaration of George Zimmerman's innocence. Or a declaration that he did everything right that night or did nothing wrong that night. The verdict was simply a declaration that the Jury did not find the evidence that was allowed in court satisfactory to have him detained on charges.

Once you understand that, I'm sure everything will make more sense. But I think you do and you unlike other wiser people in his life (which is not saying much) are still a Zimmerman sycophant.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The prosecution never had any evidence that would have resulted in a conviction as all they had was half truths, innuendo, and fairy tales. All their witnesses wound up helping the defense rather than bolstering their case. They were left to put forth John Guy screaming "fu$king punks" and "azzholes" ad nauseam hoping they could win over the jury. The rest is history.

 

[fskimospy]

The prosecution never had any evidence that would have resulted in a conviction as all they had was half truths, innuendo, and fairy tales. All their witnesses wound up helping the defense rather than bolstering their case. They were left to put forth John Guy screaming "fu$king punks" and "azzholes" ad nauseam hoping they could win over the jury. The rest is history.

Why are you so invested in defending him? Regardless of the trial, etc, it's pretty clear that he's an awful human being.

 

[HumblePie]

He never admitted killing anyone. He wrote a book titled 'If I did it' which does not qualify.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Brown-murder-Oprah-TV-interview-planned.html

oh really?

Where have you been living for the past few years?

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Brown-murder-Oprah-TV-interview-planned.html

oh really?

Where have you been living for the past few years?

Why are you linking to rumors and acting like they mean something?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Why are you so invested in defending him? Regardless of the trial, etc, it's pretty clear that he's an awful human being.

He may be an awful person but no one deserves to be railroaded based on political pressure rather than evidence and the rule of law. The law won out over politics as it should.

 

[Sc0rp]

And rhere you have it folks, GZ was acquitted due to "white priviledge". I guess the prosecution threw the case on purpose due to GZ beng white as well.

Well the prosecution certainly didn't throw any weight behind the case. Notice how the prosecutions fangs and claws came out when the defense tried to attack them personally, but the prosecution just let the defense run roughshod all over Trayvon?

 

[Sc0rp]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Brown-murder-Oprah-TV-interview-planned.html

oh really?

Where have you been living for the past few years?

Interesting that there is no such tv interview. That article was written in 2011, it is now 2014. Where is this admission?

He never admitted that he murdered anybody.

 

[Sc0rp]

The prosecution never had any evidence that would have resulted in a conviction as all they had was half truths, innuendo, and fairy tales. All their witnesses wound up helping the defense rather than bolstering their case. They were left to put forth John Guy screaming "fu$king punks" and "azzholes" ad nauseam hoping they could win over the jury. The rest is history.

There's evidence that someone was pulling Trayvon down at the same moment that he was shot and killed. That evidence was never introduced during the trial, but the prosecution tip-toed around it several times. They even had a golden opportunity to introduce it when the defense's forensic pathologist (I believe his name is Dr Demaio) mentioned it while being cross examined by Matei. Matei asked him if it is possible that Zimmerman could have been pulling Trayvon down to keep him from retreating. Dimao suddenly looked like a sheep caught in the headlights and sheepishly said that doesn't work because there would be a misalignment between the holes in the sweatshirt/hoody and the hole in martins chest and that the fabric would snap back into shape after he got shot. Both of those things happened according to the evidence, but the prosecution never introduced that.

The prosecution was also VERY careful as to not mention that. Trayvon would have no duty to retreat and that he would have a right to initiate force in self defense if he believed Zimmerman was a threat. They had several opportunities to do so, but they didn't.

Ps, I loved the way that the mma instructor came in and testified that Zimmerman was a delicate little flower that can't fight, yet a few months after being acquitted, Zimmerman was challenging strangers online to fights and then ramped it up to try and do some celebrity boxing. Granted he only wanted to fight DMX (an old drug addict that fits Trayvons size and build) or Kanye west (a soft emo premadonna with a metal plate in his jaw and punches that feel like angel kisses). Good one.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Tis a shame the the US Constitution and states laws ensure a person is considered innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

No doubt Mark O'Mara and Don West coming onboard to defend GZ screwed up SA Corey's plan to overcharge in hopes of getting a plea deal.

 

[Matt1970]

There's evidence that someone was pulling Trayvon down at the same moment that he was shot and killed. That evidence was never introduced during the trial, but the prosecution tip-toed around it several times.

You have a link to that? The eye witness testimony and the evidence I have seen seems to support Zimmerman's claim Trayvon was on top of him smashing his skull into the concrete.

 

[Sc0rp]

You have a link to that? The eye witness testimony and the evidence I have seen seems to support Zimmerman's claim Trayvon was on top of him smashing his skull into the concrete.

There's a problem with that. That eye witness "John" said the following:

1) that he could only see 6 seconds of the altercation
2) that he could not really tell what either person was doing with their hands
3) that they were about four (4) feet away from the sidewalk.

Also, Trayvon was shot and killed four feet away from the sidewalk.

Zimmerman says his head was bashed on the sidewalk, but several things could have happened there. He could have slipped and bust his own head, his head could have been hit on the grass instead of the sidewalk, he could have hot his head on a sprinkler cover. One thing for sure, the actual medical examiner and the medical assistant that treated him the next day did not feel that his injuries were significant in any way. He didn't even need the butterfly bandages that his wife put on him.

As for proof of what I'm saying. Look at the evidence. Look at the hoody, look at Trayvons autopsy, look at the sweatshirt that Trayvon was wearing. If it was a deacon shot, why is the bullet hole on the hoody on the outer periphery of the bloodstain from his chest wound instead of near the center? Why are both of those lined up pretty much perfectly with the only hint of bloodstains from Zimmerman on Trayvons person, a series of bloodstains on the right-front hem of the sweatshirt that Trayvon wore under his hoody. It's amazing that all traces of Zimmermans blood and DNA disappeared every other part of Trayvons clothing, but not that area. Iirc, Zimmerman is left handed but shoots with his right. Yeah yeah, I know, iced tea can, well that would have been resting on Zimmermans stomach and it wouldn't have been able to pull down Trayvons sweatshirt with the same force as the hoody. Then there's the ballet holes they are kinda an odd shape for a dead-on front to back shot. The forensic experts point blank shots are round. The shots in Trayvons hoody and sweatshirt are L-shaped and elongated like there was tension in the fabric.

I suppose that if you want to look up any of the things I've said, you could go look through the discovery documents which are easy to find.

Not to mention that if the fight started at the T and it moved 40 feet south, that means that the fight was moving toward Trayvons home and not toward Zimmermans truck. According to Zimmerman, Trayvon came from south-east and attacked from the south by punching him. That means that the energy of the attack is going north. Zimmerman also said that he moved SOUTH for some reason to try and escape the attack and Trayvon continued to attack from the east as he moved south. Does that make sense at all?

Let's not forget that Zimmerman the night before said that he was punched, hit the ground where he was punched and then Trayvon bashed his head there. The next day, he told the police that he was punched, tried to retreat SOUTH and forty feet later was pushed to the ground. Which is it? Why would he move south, which would be moving toward the person that just punched him as opposed to moving away from the person attacking him?

Trayvon is dead and can't tell his side to the story. Lord knows I'm not obligated to just accept what Zimmerman says because the only other real witness to the whole event is dead.

 

[Sc0rp]

Tis a shame the the US Constitution and states laws ensure a person is considered innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

No doubt Mark O'Mara and Don West coming onboard to defend GZ screwed up SA Corey's plan to overcharge in hopes of getting a plea deal.

It's funny that none of you guys seem to think that Trayvon was innocent until proven guilty. Zimmerman didn't think Trayvon was innocent until proven guilty. All the proof he needed was that he was walking in the rain.

As for O'Mara and West, they are not that good. The prosecution laid down for them. Whenever the prosecution wanted to fight back, O'Mara and West were left with egg on their face. Let's not forget when. O'Mara wanted to get sanctions against the prosecution and DeLaRionda snatched the defense's wig clean off in his response.

 

[HumblePie]

Interesting that there is no such tv interview. That article was written in 2011, it is now 2014. Where is this admission?

He never admitted that he murdered anybody.

He admitted it to the show producers and others as stated in that article and many others like it revolving around his attempt at an interview on Oprah. Which fell through, but the fact he did admit it to witnesses while in jail shows he did it.

Unlike Zimmerman, there was a mountain of evidence against OJ for murder. He got off because of a stupid jury didn't understand that a leather gloves a year later may not fit him anymore. The defense was stupid to allow it, and allow the prosecution to grand stand.

The prosecution against Zimmerman didn't have shit for evidence, and some of which they presented actually ended up being used as evidence for the defense.

You said that OJ never admitted murder to anyone, and I pointed to an article stating the people of the Oprah show all said he admitted it to them and were planning an interview for him to come on TV and state it as well. The fact that the show never happened doesn't change that he admitted to the murders.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It's funny that none of you guys seem to think that Trayvon was innocent until proven guilty. Zimmerman didn't think Trayvon was innocent until proven guilty. All the proof he needed was that he was walking in the rain.

As for O'Mara and West, they are not that good. The prosecution laid down for them. Whenever the prosecution wanted to fight back, O'Mara and West were left with egg on their face. Let's not forget when. O'Mara wanted to get sanctions against the prosecution and DeLaRionda snatched the defense's wig clean off in his response.

I've always said that both could have been defending themselves. Once TM died the attention shifted whether GZ's use of force was justified. Based on the evidence there was nothing that showed it wasn't self defense. The jury also decided that the prosecution failed to prove it was not self defense

 

[Matt1970]

There's a problem with that. That eye witness "John" said the following:

1) that he could only see 6 seconds of the altercation
2) that he could not really tell what either person was doing with their hands
3) that they were about four (4) feet away from the sidewalk.

Also, Trayvon was shot and killed four feet away from the sidewalk.

Zimmerman says his head was bashed on the sidewalk, but several things could have happened there. He could have slipped and bust his own head, his head could have been hit on the grass instead of the sidewalk, he could have hot his head on a sprinkler cover. One thing for sure, the actual medical examiner and the medical assistant that treated him the next day did not feel that his injuries were significant in any way. He didn't even need the butterfly bandages that his wife put on him.

As for proof of what I'm saying. Look at the evidence. Look at the hoody, look at Trayvons autopsy, look at the sweatshirt that Trayvon was wearing. If it was a deacon shot, why is the bullet hole on the hoody on the outer periphery of the bloodstain from his chest wound instead of near the center? Why are both of those lined up pretty much perfectly with the only hint of bloodstains from Zimmerman on Trayvons person, a series of bloodstains on the right-front hem of the sweatshirt that Trayvon wore under his hoody. It's amazing that all traces of Zimmermans blood and DNA disappeared every other part of Trayvons clothing, but not that area. Iirc, Zimmerman is left handed but shoots with his right. Yeah yeah, I know, iced tea can, well that would have been resting on Zimmermans stomach and it wouldn't have been able to pull down Trayvons sweatshirt with the same force as the hoody. Then there's the ballet holes they are kinda an odd shape for a dead-on front to back shot. The forensic experts point blank shots are round. The shots in Trayvons hoody and sweatshirt are L-shaped and elongated like there was tension in the fabric.

I suppose that if you want to look up any of the things I've said, you could go look through the discovery documents which are easy to find.

Not to mention that if the fight started at the T and it moved 40 feet south, that means that the fight was moving toward Trayvons home and not toward Zimmermans truck. According to Zimmerman, Trayvon came from south-east and attacked from the south by punching him. That means that the energy of the attack is going north. Zimmerman also said that he moved SOUTH for some reason to try and escape the attack and Trayvon continued to attack from the east as he moved south. Does that make sense at all?

Let's not forget that Zimmerman the night before said that he was punched, hit the ground where he was punched and then Trayvon bashed his head there. The next day, he told the police that he was punched, tried to retreat SOUTH and forty feet later was pushed to the ground. Which is it? Why would he move south, which would be moving toward the person that just punched him as opposed to moving away from the person attacking him?

Trayvon is dead and can't tell his side to the story. Lord knows I'm not obligated to just accept what Zimmerman says because the only other real witness to the whole event is dead.

I'll ask again, link to someone was pulling Trayvon down at the same moment that he was shot and killed

 

[Sc0rp]

He admitted it to the show producers and others as stated in that article and many others like it revolving around his attempt at an interview on Oprah. Which fell through, but the fact he did admit it to witnesses while in jail shows he did it.

Unlike Zimmerman, there was a mountain of evidence against OJ for murder. He got off because of a stupid jury didn't understand that a leather gloves a year later may not fit him anymore. The defense was stupid to allow it, and allow the prosecution to grand stand.

The prosecution against Zimmerman didn't have shit for evidence, and some of which they presented actually ended up being used as evidence for the defense.

You said that OJ never admitted murder to anyone, and I pointed to an article stating the people of the Oprah show all said he admitted it to them and were planning an interview for him to come on TV and state it as well. The fact that the show never happened doesn't change that he admitted to the murders.

How do you KNOW he admitted anything to the shows producers? He could simply tell them that he has a big announcement and they get all excited and giddy.

Like when Zimmerman said that he had a big announcement and people got all giddy that he was going to make a big announcement and then he announced that he needs to lose weight.

The interview never happened and at this point the article that you're citing is hearsay.

Also, the jury in the Zimmerman Trial was also *pretty stupid*. Most juries are *pretty stupid*. I don't know why you think there is any difference between the stupid jury in the Zimmerman trial and the stupid jury in the OJ trial. Hell, the jury in the Michael Dunn trial is *pretty stupid* because it is brain dead obvious that Dunn committed murder there.

 

[Sc0rp]

I asked for a link. Stick with the facts.

I am sticking with the facts. I said you can go look it all up in the discovery. Hold on...

https://ia601003.us.archive.org/22/...7419-george-zimmerman-discovery-documents.pdf

There' read the entire thing and then tell me that I'm not telling the truth.

Watch from 22:00 on this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0FEVEqitY0

 

[Sc0rp]

I've always said that both could have been defending themselves. Once TM died the attention shifted whether GZ's use of force was justified. Based on the evidence there was nothing that showed it wasn't self defense. The jury also decided that the prosecution failed to prove it was not self defense

Uh huh.