Counterstrike: Source - The hitbox debate!

[warcrow]

Don't know if this is fake, but people are spouting about that it's real...and it's not lag (b/c they're bots on a local machine).

Anyways, cehck out this video.

 

[Cobalt]

This is a reason why many competitive players hate CS:S. I think it might of been fixed though to some degree, I'm not sure.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

I don't get it.. whats the big deal?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Wow - that's bad news if it's real.

 

[imported_moeru]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
I don't get it.. whats the big deal?

Without evening watching the video, I have to assume the hitbox (place where the game registers a hit for you) is misplaced or off to a "large" degree. Having a proper hitbox placed is important for FPS games

 

[Trevelyan]

I think the purpose of the hitbox "lag" is to compensate for higher pings. Still, that is ridiculous.

 

[VIAN]

I knew there was some bullsht. See, Gabe Sucks as a programmer.

I don't get it.. whats the big deal?

WTH is wrong with you. It means that when you shoot the guy, he's not getting hit. If you hit him at all, it's chance. Meaning, not a very good game because of inconsistant physics.

I think the purpose of the hitbox "lag" is to compensate for higher pings.

That isn't even lag because there were scenes where the hitbox was in front of the player's movement, not in back like lag.


EDIT: So messed up too, sv_showhitboxes is considered a "cheat." So it must be true.

 

Old news and real video.

 

[BW86]

This is why Source is horrible compared to 1.6

 

[microAmp]

http://x200.putfile.com/videos/c6-12520334712.wmv

Direct link should work for a download.

Well, that certainly answers a lot of questins on how I die even though I moving behind a wall.

 

[magomago]

hmmm...i've always wondered why I get killed running across the hall in dust and when i'm in the clear somehow i'm nailed in the head...

that and it makes sense why source feels a LOT easier....like i never really have to aim as carefully as i did in CZ or 1.6

 

[nCred]

Try it yourselfs, it´s not like that, they have messed up the settings to make CS:S look bad.

Here´s some discussion about the video.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s...php?s=&threadid=287176&highlight=video

 

[Emultra]

Why don't they just have per-pixel hit detection?

 

[kongs]

There are many commands to fix this. The person who made this video obviously put all his rates and interp on improper settings. CS:S has a lot been hit boxes than this; however, CS:S Still has many problems with it and that is why very few teams play in competetively (I still play normal CS competetively).

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: nCred
Try it yourselfs, it´s not like that, they have messed up the settings to make CS:S look bad.

Here´s some discussion about the video.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s...php?s=&threadid=287176&highlight=video

Good read.
I believe someone set up the same thing but not using bots but a server.
http://www.requiemgaming.com/hitboxes.rar (@55MB)

 

[railer]

I always suspected css was a sh1t no skill game. Now I know why....thanks.

 

[nCred]

Another hitbox video http://files.filefront.com/Css_hitbox_Investigation;3854907;/fileinfo.html

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=293853

 

[boran]

the latter one kinda clearly defuses the first one.

 

[tranceport]

Always said cs:s didn't quite feel right...

 

[Sureshot324]

Wouldn't suprise me if this was intentional to give newbs more of a chance.

 

[JBT]

Have the rest of you still talking crap even looked at nCred's links?

 

[sandorski]

This is so old and has been discussed since way before CS S. The original CS had the same issue, which was why it seemed that you would be shot around corners at times.

I certainly wish they'd fix it though, because it's damn stupid.

 

[boran]

Originally posted by: sandorski
This is so old and has been discussed since way before CS S. The original CS had the same issue, which was why it seemed that you would be shot around corners at times.

I certainly wish they'd fix it though, because it's damn stupid.

please read the whole thread, thank you.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: boran

Originally posted by: sandorski
This is so old and has been discussed since way before CS S. The original CS had the same issue, which was why it seemed that you would be shot around corners at times.

I certainly wish they'd fix it though, because it's damn stupid.

please read the whole thread, thank you.

Your welcome, I have. Whattaya point?

 

[flashbacck]

Originally posted by: nCred
Another hitbox video http://files.filefront.com/Css_hitbox_Investigation;3854907;/fileinfo.html

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=293853

Your first video trys to show why the leading hitbox doesn't do anything at all, but doesn't the original video that warcrow posted show the leading hitbox take hits?