Coulter fires opening shot in GOP Civil War

Charles Kozierok

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In a nutshell, don't blame Romney, blame the tea party.

I heard her make this argument on Hannity yesterday, and his immediate response was "are you blaming the tea party?" And she replied "no, no, not blaming the tea party, blaming 'purists'." Of course, all the purists are in the tea party, and the tea party is 90% purists. LOL
 

jagec

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Wow, Ann Coulter said something...reasonable.

She's hardly the person to be calling for moderation, though.
 

thujone

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my one hope and dream that's right behind the usual fantasy ones (world peace lol) is that the republican party will go through a cataclysm and fracture in two and it will lead the way to more parties and congress becoming a coalition government where multiple parties are forced to band together in order to get enough seats to pass legislation.

it seems plausible to me. and one of the few immediate ways i can foresee the system being opened up and viable to more parties.
 

Anarchist420

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The GOP being too moderate was the problem. If they don't pick moderate candidates, then they increase their popularity. Moderation is the root of the problem.
 

jagec

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my one hope and dream that's right behind the usual fantasy ones (world peace lol) is that the republican party will go through a cataclysm and fracture in two and it will lead the way to more parties and congress becoming a coalition government where multiple parties are forced to band together in order to get enough seats to pass legislation.

it seems plausible to me. and one of the few immediate ways i can foresee the system being opened up and viable to more parties.

Unfortunately, although the Republican party breaking in two WOULD be good for the country in the long-term, it would mean a Democratic hegemony for some time to come. I wouldn't mind having the Democratic party break in two at around the same time, but that's unlikely to happen.
 

thujone

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Unfortunately, although the Republican party breaking in two WOULD be good for the country in the long-term, it would mean a Democratic hegemony for some time to come. I wouldn't mind having the Democratic party break in two at around the same time, but that's unlikely to happen.

yeah i'd be fine with it happening to either party. it just seems especially... probable given the current circumstances the republican party are in with the tea party, etc.

and i wouldn't mind seeing the same thing happen to democrats either.

having 4 parties to represent the far left, center left, center right, and far right would be nice. but i really want a coalition government like you see in most european countries with like... 6-10 parties involved in the high levels of government.
 

Moonbeam

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We need Newt for President. He had the one idea that could save us, colonies on the Moon. As soon as we can establish real colonies there that thrive and are successful we can go to war with them. As soon as earth has an external threat, the Republicans will see liberals as friends, seek their advise and thinking skills to built Moon destroying weapons. Come on people, get real. Fixing conservative lunacy isn't so easy. It going to take the Moon and lots of Moonies.
 

waggy

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Unfortunately, although the Republican party breaking in two WOULD be good for the country in the long-term, it would mean a Democratic hegemony for some time to come. I wouldn't mind having the Democratic party break in two at around the same time, but that's unlikely to happen.

if that happened then it wouldn't be as good as people think for the Democratic party as people think. well at least past 8 years.

it would be very bad long term and i think cause both parties to split. i do think that needs to happen. we need to move from teh 2 party system.
 

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There is no Tea Party. It is the definition of a straw man. These right wing nutters have twisted themselves into such a fit that they now will pick fights against illusionary phantoms! Rout this right wing trash into their havens into a few select states. Let them coalesce into some amorphous, Mississippian goo monster of bigotry and dumb-fuckery.

DRIVE THEM INTO THEIR BUNKERS
SQUEEZE THEM INTO THE HILLS
SCARE THEM WITH COMMUNITY SO THEY PICK UP THEIR GUNS
LET THEM KNOW NO BASTION, NO SAFE HAVEN BUT THEIR DEMENTED, BACK WATERED TERRORISM

The right wing trash has been obliterated. Kick them back into the mud!
 

jagec

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There is no Tea Party. It is the definition of a straw man. These right wing nutters have twisted themselves into such a fit that they now will pick fights against illusionary phantoms! Rout this right wing trash into their havens into a few select states. Let them coalesce into some amorphous, Mississippian goo monster of bigotry and dumb-fuckery.

DRIVE THEM INTO THEIR BUNKERS
SQUEEZE THEM INTO THE HILLS
SCARE THEM WITH COMMUNITY SO THEY PICK UP THEIR GUNS
LET THEM KNOW NO BASTION, NO SAFE HAVEN BUT THEIR DEMENTED, BACK WATERED TERRORISM

The right wing trash has been obliterated. Kick them back into the mud!

OK...you're about a 9 right now, and I need you to be more around a 3. Why don't you go ahead and get off the computer, sit on your nice comfortable couch and smoke a joint to help you chill out. It's legal now, haven't you heard?
 

Lemon law

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I would like to think the tea party got decimated in 11/2012, but still in terms of the 60 member tea party caucus, 46 out of 60 won reelection.

But still, in terms of the 14 who failed to win reelection, the sqeaky wheels who made the most noise failed to win reelection.

Sad to say, even if Ann Coulter makes the most noise4, we can't vote her out of power.
 
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The GOP being too moderate was the problem. If they don't pick moderate candidates, then they increase their popularity. Moderation is the root of the problem.
If you think of the political spectrum as a bell curve, you'll find that most people tend to fall in the middle. Nominating a more conservative or liberal candidate may rally your base, but it drives away independent voters, and those are the votes needed to put someone in office. You're not going to appeal to a broad spectrum of the populace with a message coming from the far reaches of any political philosophy. Despite all the rhetoric from right wing pundits, Obama is a very moderate politician; if the Democrats had put forth someone like Barney Frank or Dennis Kucinich, the election would have taken a much different turn.
 

Phokus

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We need Newt for President. He had the one idea that could save us, colonies on the Moon. As soon as we can establish real colonies there that thrive and are successful we can go to war with them. As soon as earth has an external threat, the Republicans will see liberals as friends, seek their advise and thinking skills to built Moon destroying weapons. Come on people, get real. Fixing conservative lunacy isn't so easy. It going to take the Moon and lots of Moonies.

lol
 

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If you think of the political spectrum as a bell curve, you'll find that most people tend to fall in the middle. Nominating a more conservative or liberal candidate may rally your base, but it drives away independent voters, and those are the votes needed to put someone in office. You're not going to appeal to a broad spectrum of the populace with a message coming from the far reaches of any political philosophy. Despite all the rhetoric from right wing pundits, Obama is a very moderate politician; if the Democrats had put forth someone like Barney Frank or Dennis Kucinich, the election would have taken a much different turn.
Well, moderation leads to big govt and people are getting sick of big govt extremism no matter how moderate it may be. Dr. Paul is a true extremist and he would've won.
 

Screech

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Favorite part is the second line:

Every election predictor was wrong, except one: Incumbents usually win.

Yeah, its not like anyone predicted how the election was going to turn out. Absolutely impossible.

Its like she wrote that with the impression that the republicans need to get back to sanity but also refuses to return to sanity herself...
 
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Well, moderation leads to big govt and people are getting sick of big govt extremism no matter how moderate it may be. Dr. Paul is a true extremist and he would've won.

Recent history suggests otherwise on almost all fronts, especially the bolded.
 

hal2kilo

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The GOP being too moderate was the problem. If they don't pick moderate candidates, then they increase their popularity. Moderation is the root of the problem.

Delusional:

A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.[1] Unlike hallucinations, delusions are always pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).[1] As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion
 

Doppel

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Every election predictor was wrong, except one: Incumbents usually win.
Apparently she didn't get the memo: every election predictor ON FOX was wrong. The rest of us knew months ago that Romney would lose.

She obviously lives in a bubble.
Romney was the perfect candidate, and he was the president this country needed right now.
LOL, it's so great reading this stuff.
Romney is one of the best presidential candidates the Republicans have ever fielded.
HAHAHAHA *gasping* HAHAHAHAHA
 

techs

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I bet Coulter likes it up the butt with a donkey punch.
Just sayin she strikes me as the type.
 

HomerJS

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The GOP being too moderate was the problem. If they don't pick moderate candidates, then they increase their popularity. Moderation is the root of the problem.

To quote the great John McEnroe....

"you cannot be serious"

Honestly think Rick Santorum would have done better vs Obama???

RU posting from Denver???
 

monovillage

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I bet Coulter likes it up the butt with a donkey punch.
Just sayin she strikes me as the type.

Typical liberal/progressive/Democrat class. Your hatred for and proclivity for violence against women is palpable.
 

hal2kilo

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I can't find a link, but on Kudlow today, him and a couple of the usual suspect hacks were all wagging theri heads in unison that the party had better start being a big tent party or they were done.

Must be a big batch of amonia poppers going around in Republican land.
 

hal2kilo

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Crap, I must be doing something different. Second DP in 2 days.
 
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