Could you kill someone....

[OBLAMA2009]

many, if not most, people, would kill someone under the right circumstances (e.g. you come home and find a dude scrooing yur chik in yur bed). i dont think i could, but i wish certain people would die all the time. what i really dont get is someone voluntarily going to a place like afghanistan or iraq and killing people for no reason, youd have to be brain dead to do something like that

 

[lozina]

I believe just about everyone can and will kill others in the right situation except if you are that pussy from Saving Private Ryan. No one knows what they are capable of until the right time comes.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

In self-defense: yes
For revenge: yes
For money: yes
For fun: yes
Because he was driving like an idiot: yes
For wearing brown shoes with a blue suit: no

 

[sdifox]

Pretty sure I am psycho enough to do it.

 

[NetWareHead]

I have no comment but I did ask a friend who said:

In self defense or defense of another situation or perhaps if someone has horribly wronged me to such an extent that I felt the need to exact the ultimate revenge, I could and would have no remorse. That's the only condition where the killing of another human being is allowable.

 

[KeithTalent]

No way.

KT

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I believe just about everyone can and will kill others in the right situation except if you are that pussy from Saving Private Ryan. No one knows what they are capable of until the right time comes.

youd be surprised at how many people wont kill is war. theyve done studies and something like 80% of people in war wont fight/shoot someone, they intentionally miss or hide in a hole etc...

 

[rudeguy]

youd be surprised at how many people wont kill is war. theyve done studies and something like 80% of people in war wont fight/shoot someone, they intentionally miss or hide in a hole etc...

please link to study

 

[datalink7]

youd be surprised at how many people wont kill is war. theyve done studies and something like 80% of people in war wont fight/shoot someone, they intentionally miss or hide in a hole etc...

This was an old "problem" that has largely been corrected.

 

[IEC]

This was an old "problem" that has largely been corrected.

Largely through the use of steel silhoutte "popup" targets and other more "realistic" training.

 

[ThinClient]

Anyone who says no is either lying or does not know themselves under that kind of pressure.

 

[IEC]

what i really dont get is someone voluntarily going to a place like afghanistan or iraq and killing people for no reason, youd have to be brain dead to do something like that

There's a very good reason to be killing people in Afghanistan or Iraq. It usually starts with some fucker pretending to be friendly with our forces to get them to relax a bit. Then this supposed friendly bides their time and eventually goes on a shooting spree trying to kill as many Americans/foreigners as possible before getting killed. Never mind the fuckers launching mortars and rockets daily towards bases and not caring who/what gets hit.

Any civilian casualties are regrettable, but the vast majority of those being killed by coalition forces in Iraq or Afghanistan are good kills, and a menace to humanity.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

I lean toward existential nihilism. Life is near meaningless by itself. Not one of us makes a difference. You create meaning and purpose. If someone is causing me grief and intending to do it then the only reason I wouldn't kill them is because it is illegal. Someone burglarized my home. If I found out who, and I could get away with it after the fact, I would kill them. If I caught them in the act there wouldn't be a second thought. They are meaningless to me. It would be as if a wolf were in my home about to attack me.

 

[soulcougher73]

In self defense of myself or family. yes.

 

[highland145]

Anyhow, as I said, I do not want to carry, since I think I'd lose my temper and kill somebody who deserves it.

I think you'd actually show more restraint because of the responsibility associated with carrying.


I could be wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3Hyxuf5AE&feature=player_detailpage#t=39
NSFR

 

[OBLAMA2009]

This was an old "problem" that has largely been corrected.

you may be right. i think the study related to ww2, and it was an army study because they were knew of this and were trying to figure out how to create more brutal killers. btw, i dont know the number was 80%, i just made that up, it was almost that number though

 

[OBLAMA2009]

please link to study

its referenced in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/On-Killing-Psy...rds=on+killing

 

[clamum]

Yes, absolutely I think. I'm against the death penalty and am very non-violent in general, but if someone was trying to kill me or my family I wouldn't have any hesitation tearing their face off (or shooting it, whatever works). I also think I'd be prepared for much of the psychological and physiological responses to such a situation ("On Combat"/"On Killing" by Dave Grossman ftw).

 

[rudeguy]

its referenced in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/On-Killing-Psy...rds=on+killing

I thought you said there were more than one study?

From the reviews of the book you linked to:

I've owned two printed copies of this book. Very thought-provoking, and a good read, but with one major flaw...LTC Grossman forms much of his work around data that the military has (for many years now) considered to be flawed (at best) and out-right false (at worst).

 

[nanette1985]

Oh, yes. I'm going with poison, rather than messy firearms.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

There's a very good reason to be killing people in Afghanistan or Iraq. It usually starts with some fucker pretending to be friendly with our forces to get them to relax a bit. Then this supposed friendly bides their time and eventually goes on a shooting spree trying to kill as many Americans/foreigners as possible before getting killed. Never mind the fuckers launching mortars and rockets daily towards bases and not caring who/what gets hit.

Any civilian casualties are regrettable, but the vast majority of those being killed by coalition forces in Iraq or Afghanistan are good kills, and a menace to humanity.

uh, if you dont even set food in their country they cant/wont be doing dat sheet to you in the first place. i would never go to a country where people were gonna shoot missles at me and who i would have to fire stuff back at, dats gist a waste of time and life

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I thought you said there were more than one study?

From the reviews of the book you linked to:

the book isnt original research, he mostly discusses research other people have done

 

[Number1]

If necessary, absolutely.

 

[nageov3t]

premeditated? I couldn't see it happening, unless I traveled back in time and had a chance to kill baby Hitler or something.

in self-defense? I think I could, but it's not a question one can really answer truthfully until they're in the situation.

 

[Number1]

uh, if you dont even set food in their country they cant/wont be doing dat sheet to you in the first place. i would never go to a country where people were gonna shoot missles at me and who i would have to fire stuff back at, dats gist a waste of time and life

How do you "set food" in a country?
What's a "missles"?