Core i7 2nd generation "Sandy Bridge, what's known + future

[bryanW1995]

Are you in marketing? Maybe you and JFAMD can have a celebrity deathmatch online or something

 

[AdamK47]

As far as anything in the speculative/future area I am unable to comment on them.

Not even a little?

All of the other things you've mentioned have been known for a month or more now.

I'd like to know about the 1356/2011 socket processors. The extreme edition of Sandy Bridge is what I'm looking forward to.

 

[piasabird]

Christmas time.
Everyone sending back their Sandy Bridge?
Only winner is the UPS guy.
AMD may have some time to catch up a little.

 

[PreferLinux]

Hello all,
My name is Chris and I am with Intel® I will be stopping by these forums from time to time to answer questions on Intel products. While they are going to be things that I can’t comment on I thought I would chime in on some of the stuff on this thread.
-P67 is for a person that will be adding in a graphic card it has no support for on chip graphics. Because of this the board is more designed for an enthusiast or media user.
-H67 these boards have support for the on chip graphics. Most of them are designed for the media environment it is important to note that they all come with a PCI-e x16 slot for an add-in graphic card.
-Overclocking: Right now Intel has only one board that comes with the software/set up to overclock a CPU and that is the DP67BG, which is one of our Extreme series boards. I can tell you that Gigabyte (I haven’t looked at any other companies' boards) has both H67 and P67 boards that can be overclocked.
As far as anything in the speculative/future area I am unable to comment on them.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

Really? Which ones? How come Intel claims a P67 board is required for overclocking? What about all (yes, pretty much every single one) the reviews that claimed the same?

 

[IntelUser2000]

Sandy Bridge updates:
-Z68 confirmed
-Feb 14 for new B3 stepping 6 series chipsets that fixes the recent flaw(I doubt you'll be able to obtain motherboards at that date though)
-Core i3 2105/Core i5 2405S SKU, the 5 at the end indicates Intel HD Graphics 3000. Both are 65W, the latter is quad core.

 

[Hogan773]

Really? Which ones? How come Intel claims a P67 board is required for overclocking? What about all (yes, pretty much every single one) the reviews that claimed the same?

Is this Chris guy for real? His "information" seems pretty basic.....like telling us that Intel makes one P67 board that can be OCed - and he understands that Gigabyte also has some. ????? Don't we already know that there are a million mobos out there?

maybe I've misread the post or something - but his "inside info" didn't seem to be very complete or enlightening

 

[JoJoman88]

Is this Chris guy for real? His "information" seems pretty basic.....like telling us that Intel makes one P67 board that can be OCed - and he understands that Gigabyte also has some. ????? Don't we already know that there are a million mobos out there?

maybe I've misread the post or something - but his "inside info" didn't seem to be very complete or enlightening

Yes, you would think he could at least talk about things that are on Intel's "public" road map that is shown at IDF,etc.

 

[PreferLinux]

Is this Chris guy for real? His "information" seems pretty basic.....like telling us that Intel makes one P67 board that can be OCed - and he understands that Gigabyte also has some. ????? Don't we already know that there are a million mobos out there?

maybe I've misread the post or something - but his "inside info" didn't seem to be very complete or enlightening

While they are going to be things that I can’t comment on I thought I would chime in on some of the stuff on this thread.

-P67 is for a person that will be adding in a graphic card it has no support for on chip graphics. Because of this the board is more designed for an enthusiast or media user.
-H67 these boards have support for the on chip graphics. Most of them are designed for the media environment it is important to note that they all come with a PCI-e x16 slot for an add-in graphic card. -Overclocking: Right now Intel has only one board that comes with the software/set up to overclock a CPU and that is the DP67BG, which is one of our Extreme series boards. I can tell you that Gigabyte (I haven’t looked at any other companies' boards) has both H67 and P67 boards that can be overclocked.

I somehow doubt it. He does not use fully correct english, as I would expect anyone with anything to do with PR would need. Look at the quote above. The logic is backward. He is suggesting the motherboards using P67 are designed for enthusiasts because the chipset doesn't support the IGP, rather than the chipset being designed for enthusiasts. He thinks H67 can overclock, which I questioned him on previously.

Yes, you would think he could at least talk about things that are on Intel's "public" road map that is shown at IDF,etc.

2. Anyone could comment publicly about released info.

 

[Hogan773]

Yeah the poor grammar also struck me. I think he's a fake.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

I think hes a bit Mixed up with the Intel branded boards that OCd to way over 5 and the other mobo manufacturers ones that struggle to reach 5. Intel had the internal PLL overvoltage setting which none of the other mobos had before launch. But they supplied it which is now available in all the mobo manufacturers Bioses.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Not confirmed, but it looks like the maximum L3 cache per core for Sandy Bridge is 2MB. That also reflects Intel statement that one of the versions will have 1.6 billion transistors.

 

[Edrick]

Not confirmed, but it looks like the maximum L3 cache per core for Sandy Bridge is 2MB. That also reflects Intel statement that one of the versions will have 1.6 billion transistors.

Even SB-E? Where did you hear that? That goes agaisnt all the rumors about these chips having 15-20mb L3.

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

Thank you for the questions. In order to overclock a processor you need some way in which to change the setting on the processor. In days past this was done by changing jumper setting on the board; today overclocking is accomplished with software. With the exception of the Intel® Desktop Board DP67BG, no other “6” series boards from Intel include software needed to overclock.
Gigabyte on the other hand does include software called Cloud OC and Hotkey OC on a number of their boards including the GA-H67M-D2, GA-H67M-UD2H, and the GA-H67MA-UD2H. This software will allow overclocking on those boards. So to say that the H67 series boards can’t be overclocked would be a mistake.
As far as Intel’s design of our boards we break our boards down into a couple categories: Extreme, Media, Executive, and Classic are the main ones you can see a listing of where we believe that our boards fit at http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboard/index.htm?iid=mbd_body+dt_all. The only boards that Intel has produced that support overclocking are in the Extreme Series. At this time we do not have a H67 series board that is in the Extreme series. So right now there is not an H67 board from Intel that supports overclocking.
As far as cache on the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ Processors right now the highest amount of cache on any of these processors is 8MB or 2MB per core. http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=53422,53423,53426,52206,53448,52207,52208,52209,52210,52211,52212,52213,52214,52215,
Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

 

[dangerman1337]

I somehow doubt it. He does not use fully correct english, as I would expect anyone with anything to do with PR would need. Look at the quote above. The logic is backward. He is suggesting the motherboards using P67 are designed for enthusiasts because the chipset doesn't support the IGP, rather than the chipset being designed for enthusiasts. He thinks H67 can overclock, which I questioned him on previously.



2. Anyone could comment publicly about released info.

His avatar also looks a bit poorly edited with photoshop.

 

[Lightflash]

Overclocking can only be done via software? Did I miss the BIOS/UEFI taking away the ability to overclock in the past few months since I messed with my CPU?

 

[PreferLinux]

Thank you for the questions. In order to overclock a processor you need some way in which to change the setting on the processor. In days past this was done by changing jumper setting on the board; today overclocking is accomplished with software. With the exception of the Intel® Desktop Board DP67BG, no other “6” series boards from Intel include software needed to overclock.
Gigabyte on the other hand does include software called Cloud OC and Hotkey OC on a number of their boards including the GA-H67M-D2, GA-H67M-UD2H, and the GA-H67MA-UD2H. This software will allow overclocking on those boards. So to say that the H67 series boards can’t be overclocked would be a mistake.
As far as Intel’s design of our boards we break our boards down into a couple categories: Extreme, Media, Executive, and Classic are the main ones you can see a listing of where we believe that our boards fit at http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboard/index.htm?iid=mbd_body+dt_all. The only boards that Intel has produced that support overclocking are in the Extreme Series. At this time we do not have a H67 series board that is in the Extreme series. So right now there is not an H67 board from Intel that supports overclocking.
As far as cache on the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ Processors right now the highest amount of cache on any of these processors is 8MB or 2MB per core. http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=53422,53423,53426,52206,53448,52207,52208,52209,52210,52211,52212,52213,52214,52215,
Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

But do those boards support multiplier overclocking?

What is the "Intel Enthusiast Team" anyway?

 

[Hogan773]

Still not convinced

or if this IS Intel's customer outreach - it is a little light on the tech knowledge.....

 

[PreferLinux]

Still not convinced

or if this IS Intel's customer outreach - it is a little light on the tech knowledge.....

What's more, do a search for "Intel Enthusiast Team". Guess what you find? Forum posts by this guy, and nothing else relevant. Guess when from? All this month.

He claims he is under an NDA (in a PM) as to future products. Get real...NDA for public information?

He also assumes zero knowledge of overclocking etc. in this forum and others, which is pretty brainless.

 

[ChaiBabbaChai]

Well then my last resort upgrade CPU will come down in price quicker, maybe... (if 1366 is defunct and obsolete). So much for buying an X58 for future upgradeability.... but Intel has a history of doing this with sockets.

 

[Hogan773]

What's more, do a search for "Intel Enthusiast Team". Guess what you find? Forum posts by this guy, and nothing else relevant. Guess when from? All this month.

He claims he is under an NDA (in a PM) as to future products. Get real...NDA for public information?

He also assumes zero knowledge of overclocking etc. in this forum and others, which is pretty brainless.

Its a company worth gazillions of dollars yet they hire Joe the Plumber to troll message boards to enlighten people that Intel makes a MOTHERBOARD (wow!) that allows you to OVERCLOCK (double wow!!). Gee maw, whut's over-clockin' agin????

 

[Rifter]

What's more, do a search for "Intel Enthusiast Team". Guess what you find? Forum posts by this guy, and nothing else relevant. Guess when from? All this month.

He claims he is under an NDA (in a PM) as to future products. Get real...NDA for public information?

He also assumes zero knowledge of overclocking etc. in this forum and others, which is pretty brainless.

this x2, guy has to be a fake.

 

[Castiel]

What's more, do a search for "Intel Enthusiast Team". Guess what you find? Forum posts by this guy, and nothing else relevant. Guess when from? All this month.

He claims he is under an NDA (in a PM) as to future products. Get real...NDA for public information?

He also assumes zero knowledge of overclocking etc. in this forum and others, which is pretty brainless.

I've seen this guy on other forums. He seems pretty clueless about intel in general

 

[PreferLinux]

I've seen this guy on other forums. He seems pretty clueless about intel in general

Yes, and what's more, they are all recent, as I said. And where's the "team" if he's the only one???

 

[Dadofamunky]

I've seen this guy on other forums. He seems pretty clueless about intel in general

Weird. WTH is he doing here?!?

 

[Castiel]

Weird. WTH is he doing here?!?

Not sure. Maybe he is just lonely:biggrin:.