Cordless Drill. Craftsman or Ryobi?

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RbSX

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Worked construction over the summer, ryobis were slow and heavy, didn't really like them.

Craftsmen for the win.
 

iamwiz82

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I've done lots and lots of work with my Ryobi 18v and I like it. It's done the job so far.
 
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Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong

edit: doesn't dewalt make ryobi's cordless tools?

No. DeWalt is a subsidiary of Black and Decker. Ridgid is Home Depot's exclusive line of higher-end (I still wouldn't call them contractor-grade) Ryobi tools, and that's probably what you're thinking of.
 

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http://www.blackanddecker.com/CustomerCenter/Company-Information.aspx

1960 - Alonzo G. Decker, Jr., son of the co-founder and a Black & Decker employee since 1930, succeeded Robert D. Black as president. Mr. Black continued as chairman of the board and chief executive officer. Black & Decker acquired DeWalt, Inc. of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, a manufacturer of radial arm saws and other stationary woodworking equipment in the U.S. and Canada.

dewalt is pretty good.. someone broke my drill at work.. a 39 buck generic drill, they bought me a 18v dewalt with 2 battery.. :)

I just bought a dewalt cordless impact wrench last night..

I think hilti is more commerical grade.. i seen big ass hammer drill, about the length of my body... 4-5 ft long..
 

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I still use a mains powered drill when I am drilling any distance into concrete though. I have trust issues.
 

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I'm pretty sure some of Craftsman's power tools are made by Black and Decker since many share the same features, batteries and trademarks (on occassion). Also their power tools are not covered under their Lifetime warranty, only [most] hand tools.
 

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong

edit: doesn't dewalt make ryobi's cordless tools?

No. DeWalt is a subsidiary of Black and Decker. Ridgid is Home Depot's exclusive line of higher-end (I still wouldn't call them contractor-grade) Ryobi tools, and that's probably what you're thinking of.


DeWalt is real good stuff. It's not a sub. company that B & D made or anything... that would be a diff. story. B&D's deep pockets made them acquire DeWalt... obviously B&D felt it's a worthwhile investment as you still see the Dewalt name on the tools stand by themselves, not DB&D.
 

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did you all miss the fact the OP uses dewalt at work, and knows it's good.. but just doesn't want to pay the premium?

however, I'm looking for the same thing... really need a cordless 1/2" impact wrench.. but I think only the higher end brands have these. I would really like to just stick to one system of cordless.. only one type of battery to worry about. I was going to start on the craftsman 19.2v.. just not a fan of the huge battery. I like the ~14.4v size.. heh.

 

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
did you all miss the fact the OP uses dewalt at work, and knows it's good.. but just doesn't want to pay the premium?

however, I'm looking for the same thing... really need a cordless 1/2" impact wrench.. but I think only the higher end brands have these.

Thanks for noticing the context of my question.

BTW, the (one I have) Craftsman drill 19.2 does have the 1/2" chuck. I am not sure about the impact wrench chuck size. BTW, I'm not even sure of the difference the impact wrench offers....
 

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Originally posted by: Bob151
Originally posted by: lnguyen
did you all miss the fact the OP uses dewalt at work, and knows it's good.. but just doesn't want to pay the premium?

however, I'm looking for the same thing... really need a cordless 1/2" impact wrench.. but I think only the higher end brands have these.

Thanks for noticing the context of my question.

BTW, the (one I have) Craftsman drill 19.2 does have the 1/2" chuck. I am not sure about the impact wrench chuck size. BTW, I'm not even sure of the difference the impact wrench offers....

the drivers/drills are mainly for drill bits and screw tips.. not socket wrenches. I really just need it for my tires. I autocross, and rotate tires a lot. It'd be nice to have. I want cordless because in the future, might have tires just for the autocrosses.. but for now, I'm probably just going to grab a cheap corded one from harbor frieghts.

I also noticed craftsman seems to have a new professional line (not sure if this is what you were refering to, or if you just had something older that said professional on it)
 

NutBucket

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We just bought a Rigid cordless screwdriver for work and I noticed that the Rigid tools have a warranty, lifetime, on the batteries as well. Might want to check that out. Not like Home Depot is gonna disappear in 2 years.
 

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
We just bought a Rigid cordless screwdriver for work and I noticed that the Rigid tools have a warranty, lifetime, on the batteries as well. Might want to check that out. Not like Home Depot is gonna disappear in 2 years.

I haven not seen any Rigid tools.. only power tools. But if their batteries are lifetime warrantied. hrm... interesting.
 

NutBucket

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They should be at every Home Depot. Just look for the orange tools that match the sign;)
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: Kevin
I'm pretty sure some of Craftsman's power tools are made by Black and Decker since many share the same features, batteries and trademarks (on occassion). Also their power tools are not covered under their Lifetime warranty, only [most] hand tools.

No. I will say it one more time. Craftsman is made by Emerson. They have been making them for Sears since the beginning.

If you do not belive me I can prove it.
 

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
They should be at every Home Depot. Just look for the orange tools that match the sign;)

I just always notice the powertools. never really paid attention to anything else. heh. I always thought husky was their tool line, as I"ve never seen it anywhere
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: NutBucket
We just bought a Rigid cordless screwdriver for work and I noticed that the Rigid tools have a warranty, lifetime, on the batteries as well. Might want to check that out. Not like Home Depot is gonna disappear in 2 years.

I haven not seen any Rigid tools.. only power tools. But if their batteries are lifetime warrantied. hrm... interesting.

Emerson Makes Home Depot's brand too, so all warrenties are handled through Emerson.
 

Kevin

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Kevin
I'm pretty sure some of Craftsman's power tools are made by Black and Decker since many share the same features, batteries and trademarks (on occassion). Also their power tools are not covered under their Lifetime warranty, only [most] hand tools.

No. I will say it one more time. Craftsman is made by Emerson. They have been making them for Sears since the beginning.

If you do not belive me I can prove it.

Yes, plese prove to me that every single Craftsman power tool is manufacutred by Emerson.

Thanks!

 

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If I'm not mistaken, there's a commercial on television constantly. If you order in the next ten minutes, not only will you get the bit shooter, but you'll also get an extra 2 sets of bits. PLUS, they throw in a free cordless drill, just pay shipping, a 59.95 value. All for only $19.95.
:) :p
It's a tough call between Ryobi and Craftsman. While Craftsman is just rebadged of some other brand, Craftsman does get to tell their manufacturers how much "quality" to put into it. Then again, I suspect that the contract to build the craftsman power tools often goes to the lowest bidder.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: NutBucket
They should be at every Home Depot. Just look for the orange tools that match the sign;)

I just always notice the powertools. never really paid attention to anything else. heh. I always thought husky was their tool line, as I"ve never seen it anywhere

Husky = handtools

Rigid = power tools

BTW, rumor is the Husky tool are make by MAC, at least the sockets/wrenches and such.
 

Kevin

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: NutBucket
They should be at every Home Depot. Just look for the orange tools that match the sign;)

I just always notice the powertools. never really paid attention to anything else. heh. I always thought husky was their tool line, as I"ve never seen it anywhere

Husky = handtools

Rigid = power tools

BTW, rumor is the Husky tool are make by MAC, at least the sockets/wrenches and such.

I think its Stanley. If you look at the back the packages, some of them have a Stanley tools address...
 

Ornery

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18v sawsall I got in '97ish

That saw has a Lifetime warranty. All their tools made before October 2004 do. Hope you cashed in on it!
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: Kevin
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Kevin
I'm pretty sure some of Craftsman's power tools are made by Black and Decker since many share the same features, batteries and trademarks (on occassion). Also their power tools are not covered under their Lifetime warranty, only [most] hand tools.

No. I will say it one more time. Craftsman is made by Emerson. They have been making them for Sears since the beginning.

If you do not belive me I can prove it.

Yes, plese prove to me that every single Craftsman power tool is manufacutred by Emerson.

Thanks!

I did not say every single tool. But Emerson Electric has been making tools for Sears for longer than most of us have been alive.

Here is a recall on some Sears Craftsman Power Saws. The saws In question were made in the 1950's. Emerson has been making tools for Sears for a long time.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml01/01031.html">The brand name "Craftsman®" and store name "Sears" are written on the saws.

Sears stores and catalogs sold the 8-, 9- and 10-inch saws from 1958 through 1992.</a>


99% of the Craftsman Power Tools are made by Emerson, a big part of their buisness is Doing Private Label stuff for Home Depot, Sears, , and Maybe Black and Decker. I know emerson does make things for other companies but I do not know all of them.

Montgomery Ward TV's were made by Sharp.



Here is a Collage of Buisness class where some students posted a report on Emerson. I think the dates and times are in accurate. But the gist of what they are saying is true. Craftsman and Emerson are the same thing.
Dave & Darlene concurred with Rob Johnstone's conclusion but disagreed with the recommendation. Dave bought one of the last models Emerson made for Craftsman (Emerson then began making Ridgid), and if he had it to do over again, he'd buy the Grizzly Cabinetmaker saw, which at the time was the same price as the Emerson/Craftsman.




Also here is a term paper a group of buisness students did on Emerson. The dates they quote about the deals between them and Sears are not at all accurate. But the gist of the message is fairly correct.
http://www.seas.wustl.edu/user/tbrow/MO-855%20Final%20Project-Team-B.doc


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