Cordless Drill. Craftsman or Ryobi?

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AlienCraft

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My sister in law works at RYOBI's plant in SC. Craftsman is rebranded RYOBI. So is RIGID.
BTW, my 12 v RYOBI stuff just gave up the ghost 2 years ago. Batteries worked longer than the tools. It took a drop off a 14 ft ladder to finally break the drill's case.
Anyone who says RYOBI is crap just doesn't know what crap really is.
BTW BTW, RYOBI replaced the 12 v drill when i sent it in for repair, even though it was over 10 years old, they replaced the whole thing. And NO, the SIL didn't have anything to do with that. I sent it in through regular channels.
Buy what you want, though.
 

sharkeeper

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I have a DeWalt 14.4v cordless drill that has been going strong for 11 years. One original battery still working as well. This is the early model that has the motor controller that makes the motor squeal like a small vermin being stepped on. :)

Honestly I'm surprised it still works. It has been splashed many times with seawater and dropped off 8' ladders, etc. It keeps going and going. All of the screws holding it together are unbelievably rusty. The charger blew up a few years ago but that's no surprise as it didn't fully dry out after getting dunked with seawater and it was plugged in! Oops.

I've used Ryobi as well - no complaints. For typical handyman work either should be satisfactory.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Nik
WTF? Craftsman versus Ryobi? That's like Toyota versus Daewoo. :confused:

Uh, not necessarily when it comes to power tools.

The lifetime warranty is enough to make me buy NOTHING but Craftsman. Every tool I've ever bought is Craftsman and always will be Craftsman.
 

NutBucket

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Since when do the power tools carry lifetime warranties? Check again. Hell, even the torque wrenches don't have lifetime warranties anymore.

If anything Rigid powertools still carry limited lifetime warranties (batteries included).
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Since when do the power tools carry lifetime warranties? Check again. Hell, even the torque wrenches don't have lifetime warranties anymore.

If anything Rigid powertools still carry limited lifetime warranties (batteries included).

Well that just goes to show that I haven't had to buy any new tools in a long time. :p Either way, Craftsman tools own. ;)
 

0roo0roo

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ryobi is pretty good for cutting things in my experience:) something doesn't quite fit the hole? u can make it bigger easy:)
 

NutBucket

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Since when do the power tools carry lifetime warranties? Check again. Hell, even the torque wrenches don't have lifetime warranties anymore.

If anything Rigid powertools still carry limited lifetime warranties (batteries included).

Well that just goes to show that I haven't had to buy any new tools in a long time. :p Either way, Craftsman tools own. ;)

I agree. I love my set of mechanic's toolset but I wouldn't buy their powertools.
 

Kevin

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I did not say every single tool. But Emerson Electric has been making tools for Sears for longer than most of us have been alive. Here is a recall on some Sears Craftsman Power Saws. The saws In question were made in the 1950's. Emerson has been doing making this stuff for a long time.

Nor did I say every tool, I said some. There's not a doubt in my mind that Emerson makes Craftsman's Shop Vacs, but if you look at their Drills, Power Screwdrivers and Sanders, many bear a striking resemblence to Black & Decker. Most drills use the same battery that are used by Black & Decker (Parent) and Dewalt (Child). Likewise some of the Screwdrivers use Versa-pak batteries which are a Black & Decker trademark. Further more, not only do most of the sanders look like Black & Decker counterparts, some even bear the MOUSE trademark.

I'm pretty sure Craftsman isn't licensing the technology and trademarks from Black & Decker only to have another party manufacture the product. (I'd bet good money Black & Decker wouldn't fly that way either.)
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: Kevin
I did not say every single tool. But Emerson Electric has been making tools for Sears for longer than most of us have been alive. Here is a recall on some Sears Craftsman Power Saws. The saws In question were made in the 1950's. Emerson has been doing making this stuff for a long time.

Nor did I say every tool, I said some. There's not a doubt in my mind that Emerson makes Craftsman's Shop Vacs, but if you look at their Drills, Power Screwdrivers and Sanders, many bear a striking resemblence to Black & Decker. Most drills use the same battery that are used by Black & Decker (Parent) and Dewalt (Child). Likewise some of the Screwdrivers use Versa-pak batteries which are a Black & Decker trademark. Further more, not only do most of the sanders look like Black & Decker counterparts, some even bear the MOUSE trademark.

I'm pretty sure Craftsman isn't licensing the technology and trademarks from Black & Decker only to have another party manufacture the product. (I'd bet good money Black & Decker wouldn't fly that way either.)


Originalyl posted by: Kevin
Yes, plese prove to me that every single Craftsman power tool is manufacutred by Emerson.

There is no doubt that Emerson makes most of the large stuff you see in Sears like, Benchtop belt sanders/Disc Sander, Bandsaws, Table Saws, Lathes, etc. I also know from searching the web to prove my point about Emerson that a lot of the smaller corded hand power tools like drills and beltsanders are Emerson made. I could be that Emerson makes the Corded tools for Sears and Black and Decker make the cordless versions for Sears.
 

Babbles

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I have that 19.2v Craftsman and it has been great. I mostly use it for around the house projects, but a while back I did a short stint on a construction site for some extra cash and I took it along with me. The Craftsman worked just fine, so it is job site approved!
 

Kelemvor

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Most peopl ejust pick on Craftsman for their larger power tools like table saws and such. Hand power tools and non-power tools always work great for me. I have a bunch of random craftsman stuff that all works great.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Since when do the power tools carry lifetime warranties? Check again. Hell, even the torque wrenches don't have lifetime warranties anymore.

If anything Rigid powertools still carry limited lifetime warranties (batteries included).

damn, the torque wrenches don't carry lifetime??? I was about to buy one :( Still probably will.. the $20 one from Harbor Frieghts just doesn't seem .. trustworthy. Love their sockets and stuff.. hate the fact they tend to go on bigger sales AFTER I buy a set (btw, I'd avoid the laser etched sockets.. i made the mistake of buying the huge set w/ that.. they scratch so easily :( good thing it's a lifetime warranty)

Originally posted by: NutBucket
I agree. I love my set of mechanic's toolset but I wouldn't buy their powertools.

any particular reason why?
 

Kevin

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Since when do the power tools carry lifetime warranties? Check again. Hell, even the torque wrenches don't have lifetime warranties anymore.

If anything Rigid powertools still carry limited lifetime warranties (batteries included).

Craftsman only warrants non-wearable hand tools which is understandable. Torque Wrenches can wear out and such so it falls under that category. I will only buy Craftsman hand tools because of their awesome warranty support. I have a preference to Black & Decker for power tools since I've had good experiences with them in the past. To each his own...
 

79Blazer

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Don't ever ever ever ever ever ever buy Ryobi. Junk.

Get a Black & Decker Firestorm series. I use it on a daily basis, going through wood, plastic, concrete, mortar. Fell off a 25ft ladder a few times, and never had a problem with it.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Since when do the power tools carry lifetime warranties? Check again. Hell, even the torque wrenches don't have lifetime warranties anymore.

If anything Rigid powertools still carry limited lifetime warranties (batteries included).

damn, the torque wrenches don't carry lifetime??? I was about to buy one :( Still probably will.. the $20 one from Harbor Frieghts just doesn't seem .. trustworthy. Love their sockets and stuff.. hate the fact they tend to go on bigger sales AFTER I buy a set (btw, I'd avoid the laser etched sockets.. i made the mistake of buying the huge set w/ that.. they scratch so easily :( good thing it's a lifetime warranty)

Originally posted by: NutBucket
I agree. I love my set of mechanic's toolset but I wouldn't buy their powertools.

any particular reason why?

There are torque wrenches with LLT warranties. I don't remember where they are, though. I told Lola to get me those for Christmas.

is the $20 torque wrench a beam type? I want a clicker one.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
is the $20 torque wrench a beam type? I want a clicker one.

it's a "clicker" type... pittsburgh tools i think it's made by (the harbor frieghts line.. they are a small tools and misc shop). but I don't trust it for some reason. I don't have a real good way of testing it either.

 

NutBucket

Lifer
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Originally posted by: lnguyen
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
is the $20 torque wrench a beam type? I want a clicker one.

it's a "clicker" type... pittsburgh tools i think it's made by (the harbor frieghts line.. they are a small tools and misc shop). but I don't trust it for some reason. I don't have a real good way of testing it either.

Therein lies the problem. I have a Husky clicker and it just doesn't feel right. I was torquing my lug nuts so I had it set to 75. Seemed like I was applying way more than 75 so I just stopped.

Of course the calibrations aren't warrantied at all so I guess I might have to pay $30 and have it calibrated.

FYI, I almost was going to buy a Snap-On/Mac/Matco torque wrench only to find out those only carry a 1 or 2 year warranty as well. The Husky I bought has some lifetime warranty but I'm guessing that's more if I managed to snap it in half or something:p

I actually don't own any Rigid tools myself. I just happened to get the company to buy me their $99 cordless screwdriver since its a 9.6V job. Pretty nice. The battery warranty is the only reason I mention it. If I was buying the tools for myself it'd probably be DeWalt or something.